BillySee58

I think you're having trouble following my post. There are two seperate waivers that English could be eligible for. The first is regarding the circumstances of the transfer. This is why Howard got an extra year. This is also the first way that English can get an extra year of eligibility, in addition to the two he undeniably has remaining after this season. This used to be terms that would grant a player transferring immediate eligibility, rather than sitting out a season, but in 2015 the NCAA changed that to allowing the player a 6th season rather INSTEAD of being eligible immediately. The second is a medical hardship waiver. This is either getting a redshirt for playing in less than 30% of their team's games and missing the rest due to an injury and getting a redshirt for that season if the player had not previously used a redshirt or getting an extra year of eligibility if the player plays in less than 30% of the team's game in two seasons, both due to injury. English would be eligible for this if he could prove he redshirted in 2015 due to injury.

To get a medical hardship waiver for the 2017 season, yes. But he should be eligible for a 6th season due to the 2016 season, in which he transferred after his father's cancer diagnosis. Completely unrelated to the fact that he has missed the first 11 games of the 2017 season due to injury. In the event that he were able to prove he redshirted at KSU in 2015, and missed the 2017 season due to injury, plus get a year due to the terms of his transfer, then he would be looking at a 7th season of eligibility and being a redshirt freshman next year despite entering his 4th year of college. I don't think that's likely, especially since it sounds like the coaches are thinking about playing him still this year, which leads me to believe they know there's no case for claiming his redshirt in 2015 was due to injury, but I can't say for sure.

Went ahead and looked this up. Looks like he got injured in the 4th game of the year after playing in the first 3. He played 4 games out of North Texas' 13 games that season. 4/13 = 30.7% of North Texas' games that season, which is technically greater than 30%. That's tough, and sucks, but it's within their letter of the law. https://www.athleticscholarships.net/2012/07/17/how-get-medical-redshirt.htm So I still don't see any precedent that the NCAA is going to deny English a waiver for a 6th year just because we are North Texas. Again, look at all the examples that have been mentioned in this thread. It's a myth that the NCAA has rejected our waivers unfairly, at least in years recent enough to be relevant. English transferring after his father was diagnosed with cancer is within the letter of the law for the family hardship waiver. This is from back when it used to be applicable for granting a student-athlete immediate eligibility, but has since been changed to grant that student-athlete a 6th season. https://www.athleticscholarships.net/ncaa-transfer-exceptions.htm

Yes he did.

He was granted immediate eligibility. Did not have to sit out a season after transferring. I think he had a family reason as well.

No. What happened?

This is such an unsubstantiated myth on this board that I have no clue why so many people are convinced that this is an actual thing. Derek Thompson got a medical redshirt for the 2010 season because he had played in the NCAA specified <30% of the team's total games played that season at the time of his broken leg. Tony Mitchell got granted a redshirt even though the NCAA initially said he would lose his first year of eligibility altogether. Just this year Garrett Gunter was granted a medical redshirt after going down in the 4th game of the season last year. I'm sure this myth willl continue to be said on this board as fact, but it's not true and is no indication that English should not get a 6th season of eligibility due to the circumstances surrounding his transfer.

After Rogers State, hopefully Grambling and Mcneese.

He should still be eligible for a 6th year due to the situation where he transferred here after his father was diagnosed with cancer, if I remember correctly. This article mentions it, and why he was denied immediate eligibility prior to last season. In order to get a hardship waiver due to his injury, he would have to miss two seasons due to injury or prove his redshirt in 2015 was due to injury. Still a decent chance English gets to play 3 more seasons here. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/ncaa-drops-immediate-eligibility-hardship-waiver-for-transfers-191437627.html

I'm not that upset that Fine didn't get to redshirt. It helps with recruiting the QBs that follow him knowing that they can create an extra year gap between him and them by redshirting since he didn't. Also, Fine was about as ready as it gets for a G5 QB signee, except for his height and being ready for the speed of the game. His height wasn't going to change from redshirting, and speed of the game was going to take live game action to really get caught up on, plus it likely sped up the process of us winning a division. But yeah, you'd like for us to be able to redshirt all of our QBs going forward, and I think we will.

Not sure. I haven't seen their games. But their other QB, who is not being touted as a D1 prospect as of now, completed 57% of his passes to Bean's 53%. And yeah, I think that's tough to get in a rythym and that's too bad as he heads into college.

That completion percentage is concerning. Really too bad he didn't get the full reps this year to work on it. Luckily he'll get to sit the next two years and work on it before he gets thrust into a college game.

Right. He's playing the 4 in a 4-guard lineup. My point is, when you break down the rotation, he's going to take a chunk of the minutes at the 4 both this year and next year. And I disagree on Jahmiah Simmons from what I saw of him playing at Arkansas State and his high school film. He plays primarily down low, like a traditional 4, on both ends of the court. He can slash because he is pretty athletic, but if he's in the game I'm not calling it a 4-guard lineup and it won't look/operate like one.

Yeah, that's the comparison I have used. A little more athletic, but not quite as developed post moves. Lawson has been playing the 4 most of his minutes. Doesn't mean he plays the post. My point is, between the 4-guard lineups Mccasland likes to use, Tikhonenko, Jahmiah Simmons, Zach Simmons, and Arikawe next year, I'd rather fill Temara's spot with a good shooter, regardless of position, than a traditional post. Mccasland's Arkansas State team was able to have success last year by going small because they shot the ball well from three and still managed to outrebound their opponents. This year, with Tikhonenko and Gibson out, and guys like Duffy and Lawson struggling, we are sacrificing size and not getting payoff in the three-point department, and we're getting outrebounded. If we're going to go small, and have Woolridge at point and Lawson in the game, then the other two perimeter players need to be good three-point shooters. Having Holston on the court at the same time as Woolridge and Lawson is rough and allows the defense to date those guys to beat them from deep.

Exactly. With Gibson out, and Tikhonenko not active yet, Duffy and Smart can't afford to both struggle from 3. At least not this much.

I don't know his status, but I expect we will know by semester's end, before the San Diego/Georgetown road trip that we will know. When I say shooter, I mean shooter. I think we can make do with Lawson playing a lot of 4, Tikhonenko, Zach Simmons, Jahmiah Simmons, and Arikawe can handle the post but we need shooters. Gibson coming back should help, too.

Yeah, at home it's definitely a game we need to be able to win, even in year 1, but it wasn't a team that we were expected to steamroll. Key is that we get better from it and not regress. Benford's D2 loss was coming off of 3-straight Sun Belt Championship game appearances and all 5 returning starters. This is a lot different situation. Still a bad loss, but nowhere near the coaching disaster that loss signaled.

Not entirely true. Mccasland has a good track record as a recruiter, including some of the guys on the roster (Duffy, Tikhonenko, Smart). Look at their offer lists. It's a tough loss. The shooters were very, very off (Duffy and Smart), two of our other shooters are out (Gibson and Tikhonenko), and we really only have one guy who can break down a defense in Woolridge, with Gibson out. I don't know why we didn't have Temara take more from the outside. He's been solid from out there this year, and he's really one of three shooters we have right now. The other guys Mccasland inherited from Benford are not bad basketball players, but they are bad shooters and it hurt. Lawson, Woolridge, and Holston give no outside shooting threat, and their zone played to that. Everyone needs to pick up their game, but we really need Duffy to start being a consistent threat from deep, and Smart and Lawson cannot both be off in the same game. And if they are, they have to be able to get to the line. We rely on just a few guys for scoring, and they were all of tonight. I'm not convinced we should give up on them yet, but I do want to see us get another shooter with Temara's scholarship spot this recruiting class.

Thanks, guys

Since Seth Littrell got hired, fans on the board have talked about him leaving as soon as he gets the chance. As we have won this year, that talk has heated up as people seem convinced P5 teams are going to be knocking on his door en masse. We are obviously looking at things from a paranoid North Texas fan point of view, and not a P5 fan/donor point of view, where there is much more skepticism and pickiness when it comes to filling a football HC vacancy. I did some research on the G5 coaches who got hired by P5 schools last offseason. Here are all 5 of them, and their resumes as head coaches before they got the P5 HC job they currently hold: Matt Rhule - Led Temple to 3 straight bowl eligible seasons, 2 straight AAC title game appearances, and a 2016 AAC championship. Hired by Baylor. PJ Fleck - Led WMU to 3 straight 8-win seasons including a 13-1 conference champion in 2016. Hired by Minnesota. Willie Taggart - Took WKU from 0-12 in 2009 before he was hired to back to back winning seasons in 2011 and 2012, took USF from 3-9 in 2012 before he was hired to 8 wins in 2015 and 11 wins in 2016. Hired by Oregon. Jeff Brohm - 31-10 with 3 straight 8+ win seasons and back to back CUSA titles. Hired by Purdue. Tom Herman -22-4 with wins over #3 Oklahoma, #3 Louisville, #9 Florida State, and a conference championship. Beat 6 ranked teams in two seasons. Hired by Texas. All of these guys except Taggart won a conference championship, but Taggart won at two FBS stops taking over for fired HCs and he showed a lot of prowess on the recruiting trail. All of these guys had 11 win seasons except Rhule, who had back to back 10 win seasons including a CUSA championship. 3 of these guys (Taggart, Fleck, and Herman) were making national headlines with their successes on the recruiting trail. So that's what P5 schools are looking for. Did the coach show excellence on the recruiting trail? Did the coach win and sustain it? Did the coach win the conference, and if not were they in contention annually? I still maintain that Littrell is another double-digit win season and CUSA championship away from a P5 school being convinced on him. What happens the rest of the year is big. We win out and he expedites that process, or at least would need less out of 2018 than he would if we didn't win out. So again, we're talking about likely a CUSA championship or at least two double-digit win seasons from being hired away. I think we'd all be happy with our program being in that state.

Disclaimer on my star system that I have said for a while now: QB is the least important position when it comes to offer lists coming out of high school being a predictor of success in college. Followed by slot receiver/scat back types, and DBs. Development, accuracy, and fit for the system they play in is so important that offer lists can be misleading at QB. I would much rather have an extremely productive and accurate 5'10"-6' QB with no other offers like a Fine/Kellen Moore/Rakeem Cato/etc than a 6'4" with a few other G5 offers like Greer or Means. Prototypical size but no P5 offers usually means the QB is not accurate, which is a much bigger issue than being short in college. Many/most of the great G5/non power conference QBs of recent lore have not had great offer lists because they were undersized but proved that wasn't a huge hindrance while running shotgun heavy offenses. Scat backs and slot receivers have similar cases often being under recruited because of size but being big/strong is not in their job description, so those guys often overcome light offer lists to be good college players. Same with DBs. But when it comes to outside receivers (Guyton/Bussey), every down backs (Wilson/Smith), offensive linemen, defensive linemen, and linebackers, and actually all-CUSA players and not just role players, offer lists are a much more accurate in predicting where these guys end up.

Got a good feeling about 2019. That's the class that should really see a jump in head to head recruiting battles and caliber of recruits. I expect 2018 to be similar to 2016/2017 in the sense that we wait to snatch up those Jaelon Darden/Greg White/Nick Smith types at the end. The guys who are currently uncommitted and are left with their offers dried up after the early signing period comes and goes. Seems to have worked pretty well. Then 2019 can be a more impressive crop of early commits and signees, coupled with our opportunistic recruiting at the end. That would set us up great long-term.

Vito coming in after a UNT win like

Dan "I'll Do A Backflip When We Get Our First Interception Of The Season, And I Haven't Done A Backflip Since 6th Grade" Mccarney. May his last Rudy's Coaches show live on in lore.

The next time we play them, those players will be gone. No guarantee this program just remains a cheap-shot taking team over the next four years.