BillySee58

It's a shame this has downvotes. Most of the guys who are relevant to this conversation earn their school millions of dollars a year and help make their coaches a lot of money as well. And they continue to help make their school even more money by being drafted high and having successful NFL careers, which they are trying to assure. To think these guys should be responsible for paying any money back to their schools for sitting out a bowl game in which 1. They helped the school get to and will make basically the same amount of money off of whether the player sits out or not 2. Gives their backup/backups a chance to standout as he/they begin their journey towards becoming a starter/standout and further their chances of making the NFL as well 3. Helps the coaches sort out the future of that position for the games that they are judged on for evaluating their jobs (regular season and conference games). Below is a chart of the estimated fair-market value for college players. And this is an averaged number based on 85 scholarship players, of which not every team has every given season and not all of which play, whether due to redshirting or coaches decision. For the projected first round pick it's likely close to double for their respective schools' average. Imagine Texas earning about $2 mill off a player over 3 seasons, while paying about $75K in cost of attendance for the player plus another $10-15K or so in stipend money, asking for the player to return $12.5K for the last semester WHILE that player is earning the school more notoriety by becoming a first round pick. Here is the business insider article where they calculated the fair-market value https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/college-football-player-value-2017-11

Yup. Completely agree with @GrandGreen on Lawson. His shooting percentage is down from 44.6% to 39.5% and he's shooting just 23.7% from three and is taking 2.5 per game. This offense gets him open threes. If he can hit about 33% from three that would be huge for him and the team.

Looks like he hit em where it hurts

Woah! Noticed he wasn't playing too. What a crazy career

More wins than all of last year, officially

I think 05-06 was the last year we were good in women's basketball but we were 14-14 in men's basketball that year. Not sure. Good question

Hopefully we do like we did against Mcneese State and feast on an opponent at home who we should beat easily. That's what good teams do. We have the chance to be a good team.

Despite getting the inbounds pass stolen allowing game winning shot attempts in the first two of those games and missing the front end of the one and one this game. Made enough plays and still plenty of room to grow and a lot to learn from.

Way to go Temara! Crazy how we've gotten away with some really bad plays at the end of the game against San Diego, UTEP, and UTSA and still managed to win them all

Junior highlights are out (see them on his rivals but not his actual hudl page) https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2019/logan-holgorsen-182062 Big improvement imo. Makes a few more throws that he wasn't making in his sophomore tape.

Thanks for the update! That's great!

A majority of our all-conference players have been As and Bs. Lemon in 2013-2014 (A), Y'Barbo in 2013 (B+), Bellazin in 2013 (A), Orr in 2013 (B+), Trice in 2013 (A+), Akunne in 2014 (B), Wilson in 2017 (B), and newcomer of the year Guyton in 2017 (A out of JUCO/A+ out of high school). Fine made it in 2017 was a C, Chancellor made it in 2013 and was a C, and McClain made it in 2016 and was a C+. Majority of guys who made it convinced college coaches they could do it at this level coming out.

Clayton Thorson, one of the top draft-eligible QBs by most experts, suffered a pretty bad looking knee injury in his bowl today. Said he's coming back next year, but this would be a very unfortunate injury for a QB not being able to throw at the combine or his pro day recovering from injury.

Why is an SEC school not the right situation? Don't you think we would need to wait 4 or 5 years to make that type of judgement?

But he's not on the actual roster http://lionathletics.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball

I really don't see how you can blame them, considering what is at stake. Also, I don't think it's being a bad teammate at all. I'm sure these guys' backups are stoked to get an extended opportunity, and the coaches get some extra film and experimenting on how they are going to fill that starting position going forward. Also, getting drafted high is big for the program and the school. Could you imagine if we had a player who was projected as a near lock to break our draft drought, and they suffered a Jaylon Smith type injury and went undrafted as a result?

Way to get a win on the road when we didn't seem to play that well outside of Smart. 3 of our next 4 road games (UTSA, Rice, La Tech, Southern Miss) are very winnable, so glad to see us showing we can pull them out on the road. Taking care of these road games against beatable teams early on would be huge for building momentum. As was this game.

He said based on. Not that it's the only factor. And I'd say that's generally accurate. Every year there are guys who the sites rate highly early on but they don't get the offers to substantiate the rating so they drop them. This happened to Willy Ivery, as 247 had him at an 87, a near 4-star rating in which players typically have 10 or so P5 offers. He didn't get the offers and they dropped him to a 79, despite playing zero games in between that time frame and not showing any regression. You do see them leave guys without great offer lists as 3-stars, typically low-end 3-stars. We have had our fair share of 3-stars with no other offers or only maybe one other FBS offer. But those are low-end 3-stars, which is a huge difference from high-end 3-stars and many on this board don't fully grasp the chasm between the two as we typically just get excited when we see 3-stars. Point being, these recruiting site guys are not going to deviate very far from what college coaches think, particularly with mid 3-star players and up. These are the P5 guys being recruited by schools whose fan bases provide the sites with sub money. Anything below that, with recruits being recruited by schools without fan bases providing the sites sub money are much more inconsistent. Which is back to the reason I prefer offer lists for evaluating the recruits we pursue and sign.

I think @TheReal_jayD can confirm that they are aware of all of those players even if they choose not to pursue. Maybe they do need to be more aggressive, but they aren't having any issues finding out about players.

So does this mean an A- or better is not possible at this point, for you? Piggy-backing off of GrandGreen's point, this is more of a progress report grade than a conclusive grade. I think A- or A because he brought in a player who is having the best scoring season of any underclassman we've had since our all-time leading scorer over 15 years ago, plus 3 other underclassman starters, has 3 key players sitting out the year and has our team playing close against good teams on the road while being young and undermanned, even beating a top 60 rpi team on the road. All those factors show us on the trajectory to being a top CUSA team and being able to knock off power conference teams. If the wheels fall off or we go backwards, then the grade here can change. Not trying to argue your grade. Just trying to be more clear on the question.

Inspired by Cerebus' periodic polls of Littrell. Where do you stand with things on Mccasland as of now?

Interesting. Good info. Thanks!

It says the OP and the date right under the thread title

Seems like he could play a couple spots on the d-line. Good get

Not pertinent, but stumbled upon this weird nugget I thought I'd share. Hall was the starting QB at D2 Western New Mexico in both 2016 and 2017. Considering he redshirted at UTEP in 2010 and played a little in 2011, I have no clue how he had eligibility in what amounted to an 8th year.