BillySee58

Yup. And Doolittle didn’t make a single three all of last season.

Feeling really good about the trajectory of the team. Not feeling great about the end of that game.

I think this could be different. Only reason I say that is because Renfro is still scheduled to visit this weekend.

We let Brown go last year but that wasn’t until January. Then we hired Jennings in February. Maybe they keep him through the fall signing period, then sort of let him get placed at a new job so it doesn’t look like a straight firing and get a new guy shortly after. Like I said, I think that’s what happened with Brown and Jennings last year. It’s a different timeline than a coordinator.

Everyone has access to the complete offer lists including you. You just didn’t click view complete team list. I think we need better players. I don’t care what their offer lists look like if they’re good. But statistically you have a better chance the better the offer lists are throughout your class. And I think we have been, they were just either too young or in high school this year.

The other ones were listed. You just missed them. What I don’t get is your insistence on making this an either/or situation. Yes, they were better coached. You’re arguing against me like I’m saying the coaching was championship level but our talent was hopeless. I have never said anything to that effect and I don’t think anyone on here has been. You’re allowed to think both were insufficient.

The two I was referring to were more highly recruited than you stated. That’s fact. But again, UAB’s o line or offense in general isn’t the gold standard. They were a below average offense. We already fired our OC and DC. Obviously our coaching staff wasn’t good this year. We didn’t recruit well early on in the Littrell era, so our talent couldn’t overcome a bad coaching staff and our coaching staff wasn’t good enough to overcome poor recruiting with regards to the upperclassmen. When you’re 4-8 in year four of a coaching regime, it usually is both, which it was.

You have to look at the full list to see all the teams. 247 only shows 5 on their initial recruiting page Nuss had 9 FBS offers (UAB, WKU, Air Force, Army, Georgia State, Louisiana Lafayette, Louisiana Monroe, Troy, and UTSA) https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Patrick-Nuss-99455/RecruitInterests/ Ragland has 7 FBS offers from a pretty impressive group (UAB, SMU, Southern Miss, FAU, Kansas, Louisiana Lafayette, and Troy) https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Colby-Ragland-113807/RecruitInterests/ So more highly recruited than you’re making them out to be. Nuss and Ragland were more highly recruited than any offensive lineman we have on scholarship. But also not the gold standard in the conference. UAB was 10th in the conference in scoring offense and 1st in scoring defense. What separated them from the competition this year was their defense. We won the Division in 2017 with an average at best offensive line. Doesn’t mean we can’t benefit from better recruiting at that position.

I’m curious if Seth truly has an affinity for that scheme. Obviously he’s an offensive guy and his philosophy when hiring defensive coaches was to get coaches who were hard to score against. I’m not so sure he’s married to a 3-3-5 base. Also, I think I would prefer to move out of it as well. I think it’s harder to recruit to than a 4-3.

Only played 8 guys tonight. Interesting to see if that’s a thing going forward. Worked out pretty well.

You can definitely see where that tough schedule is paying dividends

I’ve seen 2 things in particular in this thread that I hope Littrell doesn’t share the same viewpoint on. Reeder didn’t fail bc he came from an FCS school , he failed because he called bad games and consistently put our best players in very tough situations to succeed. I hope Littrell isn’t scared to go the FCS route again because of Reeder. Not saying that’s the route we should go, but excluding those guys from consideration just because Reeder failed is short sighted and eliminates a lot of potential good hires for no real reason related to their own merit. The other thing is that paying big boy money is the direction this has to go. The most expensive and qualified candidate we can get is definitely not guaranteed to be the best man for the job. I hope Littrell’s focus is on the best man for the job and not who is the most expensive guy we can afford to hire.

Yup. I hated all the window dressing we did. It was detrimental. Double fake handoffs 8 yards behind the LOS was fooling no one and all it did was give the pass rush more time to disrupt the play and so many times it seemed like Mason was throwing from 10 yards or more behind the LOS. Just a hard product to watch all year.

I get the logic that a mobile QB could maybe avoid sacks when the line isn’t blocking great, but Bean has been incredibly turnover prone in the game action we have seen. I believe he already has turned the ball over 6 times in his career. Seems like Bean and a bad line is a recipe for turnover disaster. But honestly I think Bean would turn the ball over too much for my liking. That may not be a completely fair evaluation but that’s just my feeling on him.

6’5” 250 lb defensive end from East Mississippi CC. We have offered, and he visits this weekend. Also holds offers from Arizona, Colorado, Houston, Mississippi State, Missouri, ULM, and Toledo. He visited this weekend. https://247sports.com/player/davontae-mccrae-94149/

Bump. Wonder if we’re still recruiting Long. Only QB we have offered who is still uncommitted, except for Renfro and Morris.

Two posts from two very different points in the game. Both fitting microcosms. 4 seniors on that overmatched o-line today.

Jennings has to be high on the replacement list after this season’s performance. Can’t ever recall seeing so many DPI’s on third down (or overall). Was an issue all year and anyone paying attention could see them coming before they happened.

Feeling good about all 5 of them. We have a lot of promising young linebackers but I think Brown is going to establish himself as a starter pretty early on in his career. Signing classes like this is how you put yourself in position to win CUSA championships.

Yes, and no he did not sign in 2018 so not sure which class his scholarship would be counted towards. Given that they do 2-year missions, I’m not sure that he would be done with it by spring. He graduated high school in May or June of 2018 so I would think it would not be completed until summer of 2020.

My excitement for next season is that I think we will be younger than we were this year, but more talented. The freshmen through juniors on our roster next season will be made up of guys from really solid classes. I think we will have a big downgrade at DE from Ladarius Hamilton and a downgrade at QB, obviously. Offensively there is a good chance we only start one senior in Jaelon Darden on offense. That will be a very fun group to watch grow together. Defensively we will have position battles all across the board. Outside of Novil, Tyreke Davis, and KD Davis probably every position will have a legitimate open competition. Really hoping to see some of these young guys grab some jobs there. A lot of times during both the Littrell era and the Mccarney era we saw starting lineups filled with seniors and juniors who weren’t really that good but won the job because the underclassmen at their position were both less experienced and weren’t talented enough to overtake them. Then those players started as upperclassmen after those players left because there was no one good enough below them to take their spot either. People often associate starting underclassmen with having not recruited well at that position (or in general) in previous classes. Or with teams that are rebuilding or just bad overall. But even the best teams in the country start a good bunch of underclassmen. Yes, starting too many is not a good sign but healthy programs have a solid mix. I think we’re going to start to see more underclassmen legitimately earning starting spots instead of just starting when a spot opens up and they’re the most experienced guy (like Greg White or KD Davis this year). Because that’s what happens when you recruit well, like we have the last few classes.

Whichever QBs don’t win the job between Aune, Bean, Martin, or Kuehne are probably not going to want to stick around as the backup for the next three years. I could see only one of those four still on campus come the 2021 season. So despite having all these young QBs on campus, we still need another young one with some distance between the starter, classification wise. This might be a good time to remind people that Cade Fennegan is supposed to be on campus back from his mission for the 2020 season. https://247sports.com/Player/Cade-Fennegan-46036946/ I think I’d still like to see us sign a QB this class. Whether it’s Renfro or someone else.

Yes, you’re right.

My guess is Oklahoma State

I don’t think our 5-8 season really did much in the way of proving you could win here. Certainly didn’t have that effect in recruiting at that point. I also don’t know that Fine as a true freshman was a substantial upgrade over Morris. Morris did not play well against SMU but he played pretty similarly to Fine that year in the rest of his opportunities. As for the JUCOs, I believe we only brought in 3 jucos who started or even played significant snaps on that 2016 team. TJ Henson, EJ Ejiya, and Eric Jenkins. Ejiya was a 3-year guy, so that type of JUCO signing I’m not as worried about when building up a roster’s scholarship count. I think we could have been just as competitive that year without going so JUCO heavy. I think it’s pretty likely we would not have been as good in 2017 without all those jucos, but I still think there is plenty to be said about what our 2018 and 2019 rosters would have looked like with another 15 or so more 3rd and 4th year guys