BillySee58

Felt like a road split from the Minnesota/McNeese swing would be a success. Glad we clinched that, but feels like the team is more than capable of 2-0 there.

We discuss the Army game and get into our Friday night matchup with our rivals from San Antonio

He posts that exact tweet anytime a team loses a buy game. I wouldn’t take it as disrespect.

Proud of this program

https://youtu.be/HSJh6dGOMYw We preview the Army game. GMG!

https://youtu.be/f5CqFcWQ6gI?si=2_REwxobiOU5h16Z We're back to discuss the last couple weeks of action heading into the bye.

I would like to see two seasons as well but also want to point out that he already holds some impressive records. Most career 400-yard passing games (4) and most consecutive 300-yard passing games (5).

For sure. Yup. That’s my point with crowd funding. Raising a few hundred thousand should be enough to keep starters who aren’t the top guys in the conference, and pluck some guys from D1 schools that don’t have a well put together NIL collective. It seems like we’re just talking about 4-5 figures being the market rate for a lot of these good non-QBs at the G5 level.

All sensible stuff here. Don’t disagree much if any, but to me I think the dollar figures that the players at are level are commanding make it less of all the bad stuff (transactional, grimy, etc.) From everything I have heard, we’re talking about players at UNT getting mostly 4-5 figures in NIL, for the ones who actually are getting something. And players at schools with even less fan support mostly getting nothing or next to nothing in NIL. I get the qualms about transparency for sure, and any other qualms. Just feels like a low level of investment needed from the fans to actually seize the opportunity that NIL is presenting us with.

Seems like all very reasonable stances to me.

Oh man, you’re right. Misread that as a total over the 5 years.

I know Adam at MeanGreenNation has pointed this out before, but our fanbase seems to be very conditional with how much support we are willing to give. Not being judgmental, but it’s just the truth. Every fanbase is like that to a degree but it feels more true with us than others. Everyone is entitled to their own qualifiers and financial decisions, I just think we need to be honest with what our realistic expectations are going to be for our program as things currently are. I feel like there’s an opportunity being missed here at a crucial juncture in the college football landscape. For context, that UTSA roster was put together pre NIL. If we are going to get ranked, it’s going to happen in a post NIL world.

Definitely

Going off of what JayD said as he has proven to have very reliable sourced info in the past. Plus they are the only school in the country with a 4-year starting QB who has spent their entire career with that school. That doesn’t happen without substantial NIL based on what we hear for the QB transfer portal market. And we know FedEx is funding their NIL for all sports at $1 million annually. https://newsroom.fedex.com/newsroom/united-states/fedex-announces-nil-program-for-university-of-memphis-student-athletes

We both know the analogy here is lacking until college athletes are paid by the University directly. Again, you can look at this as I “why should I have to give to the players directly when I already give to the school” situation if you want. It just seems like a prevalent mindset that objectively is resulting in a missed opportunity for our programs. Even if the logic is fine. I agree.

I’m not trying to be the arbiter here of who can or can’t complain. Again, it’s a nuanced topic and I think there are a lot of angles of discussion here. If you want to make it a black and white issue then it’s not going to be a very productive conversation. My personal stances are: 1. Why are we acting surprised when we fail to surpass teams whose fans have done more to give them a competitive advantage than we have? 2. Why are we getting so wrapped up in why NIL is bad instead of recognizing it as an opportunity to help us get where we very clearly want to be? 3. Why do so many on here spend so much time bitching about our program(s) while knowing about 1 and 2 above and choosing not to help that matter? Again, these aren’t meant to be rhetorical. There are good arguments on both sides.

For sure. I prefer NIL in those avenues as well. Wish the official NIL jerseys looked better. Would be cool to see a bunch of Morris jerseys around DATCU but the current available version looks atrocious. Also, I think at our level the NIL it takes to be competitive isn’t all that much. You could probably pull a solid FCS defensive lineman away from those schools for like $15k. Not chump change but also not a hard number to reach through a collective either. A good, legal advantage that I feel like we are missing out on currently.

Not trying to minimize these things. More trying to point out that we know our NIL isn’t up to some of these top teams in our conference yet it feels like there’s an expectation we are going to compete with them while burying our head in the sand with our NIL situation. Feels like there’s a bit of a disconnect there.

Wow! That’s awesome! Way to go!

All very good points. I think that highlights a huge issue with the crowd funding efforts historically. Much easier to get that measly $10 per month if there’s proof that everyone else is doing so and there’s a material total number behind it.

These are valid qualms with NIL.

For sure

Nope. I’m of the opinion Caponi should be fired. Wondering why we aren’t directing more of our fan passion and energy towards NIL and holding paid AD staff accountable for their body of work are not mutually exclusive stances.

The cost of season tickets equates to more than what I considered as having skin in the game. Especially considering how many years you stated. Look, people who don’t contribute to NIL took this as a personal attack. That’s not the intention. It’s more of a “what do you expect?” conversation. Not contributing to NIL, watching us fall behind (in NIL) the teams we want to beat on the field, then spending our weekends angry that we didn’t beat them just feels like a very predictable cycle. But again, it’s supposed to be a conversation because it’s a nuanced topic with multiple stances that can be taken.

They have so far though, right? The school we just lost to has guys making more in those positions. Yes I would say they do, based on the Frank Harris situation. Not to mention all the other guys the retained over the years.