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1. It isn't unique, no question, but trust me when I say that students are stupid enough to get excited over it, as is the community when we have the promotion for it. 2. Nor is it the color for any other school that has worn black uni's on a random occasion, Tennessee is one that comes to mind, as is Oregon, Alabama, Virginia Tech, Florida, Mississippi State... 3. Having a color game would not effect school pride, wearing green on Friday's, nor wearing green to any other game. There is no logical path that connects the two things. 4. You're damn right I did. Where's your idea?

How about instead of handing out minuses, someone can tell me what about this is a bad idea? How bad could our history with blackout games be where the average person in attendance would be turned off by the idea? Trust me as a student, .01% of the student body know anything worthwhile about the school's traditions and such, and we need to establish something. If black out games aren't that something, then fine, but instead of minusing my post and then leaving, it would be beneficial to hear any cons that you may have towards the idea, and if you have any better ones. The way I see it, there is zero wrong with it. It's a gimmick that you can sell to the students and to the public, especially with some kind of ticket deal for the wing section. If the students are excited and the community is excited, then the alumni will be excited. Of course, the team will be excited. I don't see anything wrong with the idea, at least in it's primitive stages.

I've seen a lot of discussion on here since I signed up about changing the culture here at UNT in regards to sports, especially football. And, I think we all agree that there are 3 different major groups whose mindsets need to be changed in order to do that: students, alumni, and unaffiliated community. In regards to students, it's already happening. Having Mac talk to every incoming freshman at each orientation every year has done wonders in helping change the mindset of the students here at UNT, and I feel that it's definitely heading in the right direction. With alumni, from what I've gathered here is that the people who support already are going to continue to do so, and it's just a matter of the school and the involved alumni continuing to reach out and establish a connection with other alumni. And, at least in my opinion, the community is the hardest to reach about this. Fielding a winning team that will get people excited, the conference change, opening Apogee, etc., are all things that have helped or will soon help, but there is still a disconnect there. Earlier today I was thinking about how to possibly get all 3 groups excited at once, and what would do that. Then, I realized that one of the problems is a lack of a major tradition, and the lack of tradition and history in general. I certainly don't mean that we do not have a great history, because we do, but we may as well have none at all because no one seems to have any clue about the tradition and history of the school and athletic programs. No one knows why we have 2 names for sure, no one can even agree on what the "real" name is. So I decided that we should start establishing a tradition to look forward to every year (though we also need to make our history a bit more well known somehow as well, but that's not where my idea lies). We need something that can be used as an attendance booster in the middle of every season, in the student section and the community section, and probably the alumni section as well. My idea is a "Black Out" game. Black uniforms (not ridiculous ones like Oregon or anything, same style but black instead of green), everyone in the stands wear's black, have a special offer for the wing section where you can get half price tickets if you show up wearing black, etc. There is so much that we can do with this. Obvioiusly, we could do a green or white out game instead, but I think black out works best because it's gimicky and trendy enough to get your average student excited, and it's something different and unique to look forward to every year. Anyone like the idea? Anyone have a better idea? Anyone have any clue on how we could get something like this started? I think it's really important to establish some kind of tradition that will get people excited every year. Besides, how intimidating would Apogee look 100% sold out with a sea of black in the stands?

I'm so stoked for this, especially as a student who will be there early enough to be on the court.

For anyone interested, here are my thoughts on tonight's loss. I'm no football connoisseur, but I'd like to think that I know a hell of a lot more than the average student in attendance. 1) The offensive playcalling was the strangest combination of overly aggressive and incredibly predictable that I've ever seen, and that was one of the reasons for the loss. 2) Our special teams coach needs to be fired tonight, for a few reasons. 3) Derek Thompson is the epitome of inconsistency and unpredictability at the QB position. 4) The D looked really good for the most part. 5) I predict we drop 50 on FAU next week. So, I'll go one by one and explain myself for each of them. 1) I'm being completely serious when I say that the playcalling tonight was the strangest I've ever witnessed in a football game. I'm sure there have been plenty of stranger instances, but the playcalling tonight really stood out to me. Firstly, our first down playcalling was ridiculously conservative and predictable, save for the one flea flicker later in the game, and probably a couple other minor instances. Outside of that, we literally did a safe run play every first down. I understand that Thompson was sucking, but if you're going to run the same crap over and over again, the other team is going to get wise to it, and they'll find a way to stop it. If you noticed, this is exactly what happened as the game went on. Drive after drive, the offense stalled out because of a crappy first down run that put us in tougher passing situations where we had to go with our weakest parts of the playbook in order to have a chance at getting the first down. I'm certainly not suggesting that we should have thrown the ball more often, but damn it guys, mix it up a bit more often on first down. On the opposite end of the spectrum, our playcalling was wayyyy tooooo aggressive a lot of the time. The obvious ones are the two 4th downs we went for (WE SHOULD HAVE KICKED PEOPLE...Olen misses a 40 and a 47 yarder and gets yanked? What the hell? It isn't like he shanked an extra point again...), but one can just as easily question the motives behind calling about 5 trick plays in a single game. I felt like I was watching a futuristic game of Madden at times with all the reverses, double passes, etc. I loooove trick plays, but one or two in a game is enough, and the following week you shouldn't call any....there is a reason they're called "trick" plays. I mean, overall, I didn't mind the playcalling. I like how we went with the running game a lot when it was working. I don't like that we made the run game predictable. And I certainly don't like ridiculous unnecessary aggression that probably cost us the game. 2) After last week, I was absolutely not on the "BURN ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH SPECIAL TEAMS" bandwagon, but I am now. Seriously, there are so many ridiculous flaws that should be an embarrassment for a D1 football team, let alone one that's trying to re-establish themselves as relevant in both this state and the country. What was up with Chancellor tonight??? It was like someone stripped him of his manhood before the game. Offensively he looked really good. On special teams, he was worthless. Since I doubt that he was so fearful of Troy that he suddenly became a passive player, we need to look at the coaches. Why the hell would they tell him to be so passive? Fair catches on punts where guys were literally 10 yards away from him, AFTER HE GATHERED AND SECURED THE BALL. Why???? A few times it was necessary. There were just as many times where everyone around me sighed in disbelief at his lack of aggression on returns. And what about early in the game when he just watched as the line drive punts rolled by him to give us 10-20 yards worse field position...perhaps he could have just grabbed it and fell on the ball??? So frustrating. Someone with his world class speed needs to have the freedom to run whenever he has an opportunity to, and being passive on returns is not going to help that cause at all. The kicking game was really bad. A botched extra point last week may not be the coaches' faults, but going 0-3 on field goals, yanking the starting kicker to put in someone who had a hard time reaching from 35, etc., really makes the coaches start to look bad. Couple that in with the fact that we've already allowed multiple return TD's (including kickoffs and punts) this season, and a slew of other minor to moderate level concerns and such that are too numerous to remember and list, and I'm starting to point the finger towards the sidelines. Since I don't know how much control the STC has over everything, how much control McCarney has, whether the players we have are just plain not good at special teams and have no hope at being coached up, or whatever else you can think of, I can't place my blame solely on one guy. But I think a good target is the ST coordinator, so that's who is getting my wrath here. Fire him. 3) I think we're all in agreement that Thompson sucked tonight. He threw a few really good balls during the game, but outside of the few that were solid, he looked like shit. There is no covering that up. He looked timid, and honestly threw better while on the run than while standing in the pocket with no one around him. Last week, he looked fantastic. He looked promising against LSU. But, he sucked against Texas Southern and Troy. It doesn't make sense, I've tried to make sense of it and I just cannot. Maybe one of you guys can tell me how the same person that went 25-28 on the road at a top 15 team can suck bad enough to go under 50% passing against an average Sun Belt team, because I can't figure that out. This is certainly an alarming and urgent problem, as without good QB play, we go nowhere this year. 4) On a more positive note, the D played really well again. They pressured the Troy QBs, they made some plays in the secondary...overall, they really looked good again. I feel like the D is absolutely the strong point of the team right now; all four weeks I've been impressed. Other than a couple of things, I really feel confident in the defense going forward this season. The only things that worry me are that we cannot stop a screen to save our lives, even when a team runs multiple plays multiple times each in one game, and that a lot of the guys still seem to hit instead of tackle. I think the tackling looked better this week, but there were still instances where terrible technique resulted in missed/broken tackles, or the ball carrier getting an extra couple of yards after contact. 5) I'm serious about this last one. I feel like McCarney is going to put these guys through a week of hell and they will come out focused, ready, and pissed, against FAU. Maybe 50 is excessive, but I think if given the opportunity, Mac will have no problem running up the score a wee bit. FAU is absolutely awful and if we lose next week, I don't know if I'll be sane again until basketball season starts. Anyways, if anyone actually reads through all of this, I'd love to hear some thoughts and opinions about the game/what I said/whatever else one may want to put. Good night everyone, and Go Mean Green. *before anyone makes a joke on the lack of a social life, the alcohol is on it's way, so I figured I'd make this while I'm waiting haha

You mean the same FIU game that we hardly had a chance at winning is worse than this loss? The sky may not be falling, but the FIU loss wasn't worse than this one. The WKU game last year definitely beat the FIU one, and I'm too tired to look further than that but I'm sure there are more losses even from last year that were worse than the FIU game. That was the first game of the McCarney era, opening on the road against the reigning conference champs...there was no chance in hell of a win that night. Regardless, this game does sting. A lot. At this moment, I'd say this is the worst of the McCarney era, but I'd rather wait a couple weeks to look back on it and really see what it meant in the grand scheme of things before giving it that title for sure.

I don't follow your logic. Put the SOW on there and that still doesn't take the collective head of all ESPN commentators out of their collective ass.

He really did look awful tonight. I really don't understand it at all. I can't put myself 100% behind him, but I can't put myself behind benching him either. Week 1 at LSU, the stats don't look good for the most part, but he seemed poised, prepared, and unfazed. He played pretty well considering the talent differential of the 2 teams and the hostile environment. Week 2 he looked like shit, let's all be honest about that. Last week he was very good, I wouldn't say great despite the 25-28, and that's because most of the passes were short, quick, and easy. But, he didn't make stupid mistakes, he was poised, he was a great game manager, etc. etc. This week, back to awful. I honestly don't get it. Seriously, how can the same player complete 25 of 28 passes on the road against a top 15 team, and then have a completion percentage under 50% (and looking awful while earning that percentage) at home against an average Sun Belt team? It just doesn't make any sense to me. He's the epitome of inconsistency at the QB position. He's looked so damn good at times. And tonight (among many other nights), he looked just plain awful. Hopefully, after next season, we'll have someone legitimately good enough to compete in C USA ready to step in behind Thompson (there isn't any chance outside of injury or continuing epic suckage that he doesn't win the job next year as a 3rd year starting senior), or we'll be in trouble for a few more years until we find someone who can handle the job. Right now, there isn't much. We all know Thompson is the best we have now, and benching him this soon would be really stupid, especially given his performance last week, but we will go only as far as Thompson will take us, which we knew before the season.

How'd the student section look from the alumni side tonight? As impressive as last game? More? Less? All of the above...?

If it was possible to get through to the AD on gameday then I would, but the whole dept seems to forget how to answer the phone on gameday. Thanks anyways man.

I did see that as well, but it didn't really clarify anything in regards to whether one needs some form of documentation or not. Thanks though man!

Thanks!!

I have family wanting to come to the game today, but my aunt can't walk very far, so my question is if the shuttle service from Fouts to Apogee for those with disabilities can be ridden by someone who can't walk that far but doesn't have documentation of anything. For the record, she's had both hips and knees replaced, so it's certainly a legitimate issue. Any help friends?

Oh my god yes hahaha, that would be hysterical. If I do it, I'll let you all know. Video will be a must.

Is in my Geology class apparently. What are the odds of that? Interestingly enough, I only know that from just glancing over the roll sheet in class, I haven't actually seen him there yet, though I'm probably just not paying attention. Antonio Johnson is in the class as well, and I'm amazed at the size of that man. A third player is in the class too, but I haven't figured out who he is yet. Anyways, yeah, I just found it pretty funny that my adopted player ended up in one of my classes. I get dibs on him in future years if possible people. Cheers, GMG!

Damn right. I was standing there in the 4th row with a UNT hat, UNT jersey, long green socks, and white and green shoes that match our unis perfectly, and even I wasn't nearly the most decked out fan there. If they're going to do that, at least do it the right way and find the 3 students dressed the craziest. I was actually planning on wearing UNT football shorts and spirit sleeves as well, but I forgot the sleeves, and the shorts lacked pockets so they were a no-go. Oh well, I've got big plans for the ULL game (; green and white corpse paint?? yes.

I'm 99.9999% sure that it's perfectly accurate. I'm not in the AD, so I can't say for sure, but I've seen that exact information in multiple locations, and saw a sign somewhere in a picture of some UNT athletic office where the schedule for the next couple of years was listed, and it was the same.

I still have faith in DT, because he has shown flashes of greatness, and last week he looked very poised. His performance was very disappointing, but as many have pointed out, I'd rather have him do this against TSU than against LSU or KSU. He absolutely needs to step it up though, no question about that. A couple more games like this (not counting KSU if he does poorly, because the talent differential isn't exactly his fault), and I'll start getting worried. Not yet though. On a quick side note, the running game looked fantastic. If Jimmerson has 4 healthy years, this dude is going to put up huge numbers. We might have gotten lucky and struck gold again. Nothing against Byrd, since he looked great too, but something about the idea of having a guy being the #1 back for 4 years gets me really excited.

I was there last night (4th row instead of 1st because of some things beyond my control, and I was not happy about that lol), and it was wonderful in the student section, save for some idiots next to me (about a group of 15) who sat down for the first half of the 3rd quarter. It took a rude and obnoxious comment on my part to get them to realize there was a game going on, and a couple plays later there was a huge play and they were up again. Outside of that, absolutely wonderful atmosphere on the student side.

THREE. I was there, got soaked, and witnessed history. Best game of the season.

As long as the 4th team is terrible, I'm satisfied, because that means we're the 2 seed.

I'll be there. Thor, I'm gonna need you to strike down the talons if they attempt to prevent me from sitting front row at the 50.

Hahaha, serves them right for being so obnoxious about leaving the "worthless new C USA". Enjoy the Big East guys!!...I see 3-9 seasons in your future with marquee games against West Virg...I mean Pi....Syrac......UCF. UCF.

This is disappointing but nothing more. I could care less. It isn't like this hurts us at all. I don't think anyone of worth is sitting there thinking "If Josh doesn't root for UNT after going there they must suck and I'm not going there now". Get real people, it's a slap in the face from an ex girlfriend and nothing more.

I really don't know how anyone can take a net negative opinion from this game. Had we been playing TSU and looked like this, there would be need for concern. But considering we looked like we belonged on the field against a team peppered with top NFL prospects and a few guys good enough to make an NFL roster TODAY, I'm taking this as a positive.