Andrew

the good news is I have created the whole UNT roster in NBA 2k12 and 2ill be playing a nice season against past legend teams like the 94 Knicks, 96 Bulls and 2000 Lakers... I will be releasing some tension!

Im afraid its only spiraling with no C.J, Williams, Mitchel or Patton for next season...

Its an honest question because I have heard an answer from well lets just say somewhere haha. I have no idea what to believe but what do you guys think?

So... do Jones, Williams and Mitchel return to UNT next year? Or are they all gone....

The tough part is they knew this was coming! My friend coached in college and he said that they knew a few weeks beforehand but players are allowed to play. He said he and the rest of the coaching staff would draw heat at his school from these events. Its hard because the AD could look at this as money that could have gone elsewhere. He said when he was coaching back in the day that's what he was chewed out about. Its a very tough loss but like Emmit said we still have a season and next year we will hopefully get these great young athletes back! Along side the man, the legend... Tony Mitchell!!!

I posted that video a while ago.. again it all depends on how the coach runs it and the players you have. It all really depends my friend

I really hope people do not get mad at me... but yes and no (depends on how you choose to run it and the ability of your players) A team that runs a 2-3 zone where the 3 and 4 trap the corners and play up defend the three... especially for teams with incredibly athletic 3's and 4's. It also stops penetration which is the deadliest offense threat in the game because of the options you have when you drive in. Technically this is how you beat any zone. But hopefully you have athletes who can recover quickly. If you step up and stop the penetration then they have to swing the ball too one of the wings where your 4 and 2 may trap. If they choose to throw a cross court pass then hopefully your offense adjust quickly. If the lane should be shut down and if its not you have the baseline and you 5 protecting. Now if they send a cutter then the 5 steps up and the 3 drops down which may leave a man in the corner. That is where your 1 jumps out to get a hand in his face. Essentially you have 4 men guarding the perimeter. Man is always the best option but 2-3 zone does not hurt to stop penetration and force some bad shots hopefully.

Well its hard to explain when you are just saying "zone" and not specifying anything!!!! Zone... zone could be an offense (run by smaller teams) so just stating zone means nothing... and every defensive zone is different! Ridiculous

I will go out on a limb here and pick FAU to bring home the win backed by White with 18 points... pretending to be psychic here and I would like Middle Tennessee State pick up a lose or two before we play them

We play great on the break and when we put the ball up in the first 14 seconds of the shot clock (minus Mitchel's botch last night haha)and nice quoting the numbers from the broadcast last night (they said Leonard noted that earlier)

"contended 3 point shots", so whats the next topic then? Our offense? Its pretty stale when we slow it down and try to set things up (prior to Mitchel arriving) Sometimes we still sit on the ball

never said that... was just an assumption though I could have sworn I added in hair color and weight as well... though I thought segregation was over until I watched the little league teams play at the half time game about a month ago!

Are these basketball boards not a forum for fans to share their opinions and have them debated in a "professional" manner... which has been attempted before. (Lets assume a fan came on here and said tony Mitchel is awful he fouls to much and finds other little pieces of his game they do not like... my assumption is the response would be troll, or gtfo, a ton of negatives.... and just attacks without a knowledge of his game. Knowing basketball random facts about coaches from the 80s maybe be great for the tasty greek or others like him, but im waiting for the knowledge that comes on the court to be discussed).

please explain to me your reasoning...

how insightful... of course! I forgot "I'm convinced this is complete shtick" the ultimate argument for why 2-3 zone is infective. The basketball IQ around here is outstanding!!!! Someone please give me a simple reason... here I will help... well skiver the 2-3 zones main goal is to stop the penetration... skive: well yes though that is true when you as a coach choose to have your 3 and 4 trap in the corner and play up you shut down the corners and ultimately when stopping the penetration you should stop the three. Penetration is the most dangerous offensive maneuver in the game. It allows for 2 on situations in the post if you don't collapse and if you do then there may be an open three. (however with the 3 and 4 in position the three should always be contested. You turn... here is an idea discuss the adv and dis-adv to allowing the opponent to shoot a three with a hand in his face...

I have always said man is the best option but 2-3 zone is a nice change and if run effectively can stop the 3. You want your opponent to shoot the ball from deep.... You just want a hand in his face. I will give my opponent the three all day if I have a hand in his face until I see a need to change back to man or half court trap our double. How is having 4 men guard the three as opposed to have having 3 men guarding the three not stop it? I have had 3 or 4 people back me on the boards who actually like myself gave relevant arguments while the rest of the "highly touted basketball IQ genius has just spouted out "oh what a joke" "troll" "are you kidding" "idiot" etc... I am really thinking that my argument of sending your 3 and 4 to trap (which is an option in a 2-3 not how it is always run) is a better argument then assuming I am a troll or idiot... Im waiting for insightful opinions

already made that point... got attacked...

Just curious... why doubting it then? I will stop mention the D... especially if UNT starts playing more of it! (The mens team)... We need to play better then we have

it leads to contested outside shots, which in the college games tend to be threes.. And as a coach I would take a contested three all night! You want your opponent to shoot from deep if he has a hand in his face.

Ganggreen... you like I am guessing so many are going off this assumption that 2-3 means two people up top guarding the perimeter... but your 3 and 4 seal off the corners and trap along with your 1-2 the 5 is in the middle being protect and hopefully coming for some help side D if the ball is taken into the paint.

We have seen this night in night out with the mean green... I just wonder if people watch the games sometimes. Maybe they are looking at where a center hanging scoreboard should be (hint hint AD)

penetration leads to the three...

I actually did... I would not have known who he was accept I said I wish I was at the UNT game and then he told me he use to play for them years ago haha

One I think that word is ridiculous and two no I am not... I just cannot understand how people who claim to be basketball fans cannot see how things work. I have yet to be answered on how 4 men guarding the perimeter... usually against 3 in most offenses is somehow not good at stopping the three? The few times we were in zone and they got off an open three our guys got hung up on each other. Like when Mitchel was hung up on Walton at the top of the key and Gordon had an open 3... Its not hard for 4 men to guard 3 people... in fact the next play down we ran the zone and zollo was open in the post (which honestly should have have happened).

I have already discussed this topic with people who have actually played the game at the collegiate level... I was at Ryan High with Quincy Williams for a little bit... I hold conversation with people who know the game much better then I do and I get varying opinions. BUT people who know the game have agreed with me... not all but a good chunk of them. I do not see how having 4 people guard the perimeter and stopping the penetration which is huge because it allows the open three is somehow infective against the three... If you run the right offense sure you could bust it open from deep.... but the same can be said for 3-2 zone 2-12 man or any other sort of defense your mind can imagine!