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Fine has taken so many hits and popped right back up. The line needs to be better. Fine is tough.

You are right. The refs made it up because we hear spitting so often. Its the refs fault, not the player who spit, got kicked out, then doubled down with screwing his team over for 15 yards and gifting three points to a team that indecently beat us by 3. The refs are to blame. Seriously? Suspend him indefinitely. Teach the team a lesson. Even if the player's last football play ever is being a crappy teammate. Send the message home or make him figure out a way to make up his absolute embarrassment up to his teammates and coaches. Spitting, two personal fouls in one play? Nope. Zero tolerance.

Fine has a much better team and support around him and it's not even close. Different scheme as well. However, he had Troy Redwine who was amazing. Redwine was awesome with much less opportunity under schemes compared to today's team. Although Maher did have one hell of a tight end too.

Super positive post I guess but I don't know where you were going with it. Of course he is a worker and busting his ass for years to get where he is at. Every player on the team and those before him did the same. Juxtaposition of two good players. One will hold records and hopefully more & one who will lose records with a ring, trophy and lead us to D1 when you had to earn D1. That's it. No one said anyone was a bad dude. That said, you kind of freaked me out. That was a real buffalo bill lotion on the skin rant. Its just football talk. FYI the FAU game on Thursday is not a big game at all. In fact, its totally irrelevant and will be dismissed by even big fans because of the pathetic crap product we wasted our time watching today. Serious garbage product out of UNT. (FAU is big if you want payback for them curb stomping us twice last year.) The game after that will be a half ass important game just because screw that team.

I took a beating bringing this up last week but I thought it is worth bringing up because the difference between the two are worth talking about considering the records being brought up and they PR about their passing of some torch. (Full disclosure, Mitch was my QB when I was a freshman player.) Fine will hold every record. Fact. Maher was a better leader. At least as a senior. Fine could learn a lot from Maher. Everyone here has said this could be our best record yet. Ridiculous. 10 wins, awesome. That might be a bridge to far now. No chance to win conference and we are competing for nothing. 17 was better than 18. So we beat SMU & Arkansas and basically crapped the bed every chance we got after while beating down some losing teams. Maher was one hell of a leader on the field, off the field, and damn sure is now. Fine hasn't figured out how to lead this team to finish the game. Every loss we have has been blown, seriously blown opportunity. This team has no true leaders. Maher was a leader. Everyone looked up to him and most damn sure didn't want to screw up nor look at him if they did. The coaches are failing as well. This team jumps ahead then dies and no one steps up. Fine may not be the leader on offense. Maybe it needs to be a lineman. I don't know who it is and I don't think the team does either. It doesn't have to be the QB either, however, Fine could learn a hell of a lot from the guy who is proud to give his records too. Lead from the front and make those around you want to be better and fear failure. Damn, we had that on some of our worst teams but lack it now. Side note: Discipline is pure crap on this team. The incident before the half that shifted the momentum speaks volumes. Unreal. Spitting and getting 2 personal fouls in one play is unreal. I guess those 3 points didn't matter. I hope it felt good...

I feel the same way. I took Friday off too. I don't think I can tske my non NT friends to watch. I was going to take a UCF and Troy fans but I'm not sure. They are already asking wtf happened.

Does Littrell and Harrel attend the Jason Garrett Coaching camp?

I couldn't agree more. Flexing after you got burned none the less. I was happier losing by several touchdowns a few years ago than watching this behavior. Spitting on a player, getting ejected, then getting another personal foul giving them 3 points is an embarrassment. Littrell talks culture. The culture is crap at NT right now. Losing with class when you worked your ass off is better than melting down and behaving like jerk offs. And stop the dancing bench warmers on the sideline. It reminds me of 2014 behavior. I have never seen spitting at UNT in my life and I was a player through the Simon years.

Sorry guys. We just aren't very good. Teams that are up by 28 don't lose. This is bad coaching, no leadership on the field, and no discipline. Spitting players? Unreal. We are a joke at this point in the season.

We are going to lose to a 2-7 team. NT just isnt good. We beat Arkansas. Wow.

Yes. Down vote all day. There really isn't anyone who steps up as a leader on offense this season when things go bad. Yardage is great, results are losing when it takes leadership.

We have an offense?

Spitting then throwing a fit to get 15 yards plus s field goal shifted this game. I hope he is suspended the remainder of the season.

Depends on how you look at it. One sucks and the other blows...

ESPN sucks

Like La Tech and UAB when we blew leads resulting in no chance at conference?

Ive been saying that all season. Thats why we cant win when we have to. Unreal. This team is not disciplined at all.

Dont worry. They are on our 10 and going to score.

28-0 at one point now this. I don't know how a team can crap the bed the same way over and over again.

Spitting on players and shifting the momentum is a new development at UNT. Ive never seen such a stupid 5 minutes on the field ever at UNT.

Our offense gives up once we lead.

This team can't finish off anyone anymore.

Full meltdown on our part.

Spitting. Unbelievable.

Eject him