PlummMeanGreen

Oh my gosh! We have a Rocky Horror Picture Show fan on GMG.com and its.....................ADLER (for Denton's sake)! "I say there, oh chap, a bloody funny moment from you, Sir ADLER!" Any of you remember when that movie became the midnight show at the theatre on the Denton Courthouse Square; you know, the one that became a church I believe? Tim Robbins' squeeze never looked better than in that movie; of course, many years before certain things on her torso went so southbound that she could play soccer with one of them if she wanted to. (Oh heck, can I say that, Cerebus)?!?!?

Actually, the only time I think "shrinkage" can ever be a positive is when it concerns tumors. I would love to hear the Tulsa HFC continue to play "spin-meister" and tell us all how, uh............"shrinking"................ the Golden Hurricane's football stadium by 10,000 seats is such a "hip-hop/whoopty-doop" deal & how it may very well become the latest trend among those in the non-BCS. Funny thing is (if that were the case) I just cannot think of the next school who would even think of doing such, especially any D1-A school in the Lone Star State, whereas a school that would even entertain any semblance of an idea of doing such would be laughed off the face of the nation of Texas, especially if that school were one of its Top 3 Largest Universities. Truth Squad Interrpretation of TU's Loss of 10,000 Seats at the Former Skelley Stadium is: Tulsa U had no other viable or available real estate in their athletic complex area to put such a facility--so out with the end zone seats, OKIE's! Meanwhile.... GMG!

SUMG, I do wish you'd quit putting photos of some of my ex girlfriends as your avatar, gol' darn it! I know, you're going to say something to the affect that they're not fluffy enough for me, right?

More great stuff from MG61!

I believe others have posted it, but U.S. News & World Report's Tier I, II, III or IV classifications use a school's financial coffers, ie, endowment, as a fairly large part of their tier system rankings of colleges and universities. Anyone else remember the huge Dallas Morning News article a few years ago on USNWR's tier ranking? I especially remember reading 2 distinct parts of that article and they were: (1) How Texas Tech not long after they sent a full delegation to wine & dine the U.S. News & World Report powers that be suddenly (almost overnight) went up one tier? Still......all power to Texas Tech for being so pro-active and they do have a larger financial endowment than all of ours favorite alma mater. (2) The (then) UT-Austin prez' all but made fun of the methods U.S. News & World Report used to rank schools. Told an ad salesman from College Station just today who I am purchasing a Palo Pinto/Parker County yellow page ad for my business venture about several of our UNT rich & famous alums (and he, like most other Texans many of you have probably told the same) could hardly believe all the names he was hearing who went to UNT. I also told him that the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board down in Austin had UNT projected to grow larger than TAMU within the next 10 years and that one almost blew him away. Granted, we are located in a population center of amost 7,000,000 Metroplexers, but UNT (for a non-Permanent University Funded school) is still a great school & one drawing more notice & interest than ever before. We really do need to build for our future (and that means more than just our eventual new football stadium, too). GMG!

The Denton Bicycle Center-Dome (oh, gosh, now we need a domed stadium)?...........anyway, the DBC-Dome has a much better ring or sound and it would be from a, uh, Denton-based business, too, greenjoe. PS: greenjoe, do you recall that I once bought a Raleigh bicycle from you too long ago to mention? It was the best bike I ever had! Shop Denton, folks!

Well, I know I've never said 50K (as others have) but 40K has been my nirvana number for UNT with 35K being very tolerable but I'll add another wrinkle and say this..... ..........If UNT choses or foresees another 10 years in the Sun Belt--we really don't need to waste money on a new stadium at all--seriously. Most likely it is our SBC membership that is keeping us from gaining the imagination of a Big Donor as it is. The SBC will most likely keep us at the same per game averages we had even during each of those 4 bowl years. Anyone care to tell the rest of the newbies on this GMG.com what those averages were? Yeppers, I'm sure you don't want to advertise those numbers....... Again for those of us Baby Boomers who attended and or graduated from NTSU in the mid 70's, its almost turned out to all but be a curse what some of us got to witness during the Fry Era because that became our barometer for Mean Green football. While on that subject, would not that have become the barometer for most any NT Ex no matter the era if such feats similar to those in the mid-1970's might have been duplicated during each of their own eras as NT students and.......no matter who the UNT Head Football Coach would have been during such an era? So go for it, you who are our usual less than a handful of alums on this forum who just love their athletic mediocrity in Denton and whose posts & responses prove it to all. The rest of us are all listening, but do come up with some fresh new reasons for UNT to not duplicate the kind of wins we did (in deed) have in the mid-to-upper 1970's in Denton. Tell us all why we should not (at least) "try" to attain such feats again here in this new millenium--and try to cut all the sarcasm and funny stuff as you try to explain your reasons, too (if that at all possible).

When One Loves To Hate Another School (Athletically Speaking), One Needs To Be Very, Very Careful That They Are Not Responsible For........ ...........Allowing A Rivalry To Break Out With Such Careless Behaviour (for heaven's sake)! (After all, one just can't do these kind of things in Texas Inter-collegiate Football anymore--can you)?

I would love for North Texas to be in an established league that already has annual Top 25 team(s) in it, and then an ever-improving Mean Green football team becoming its 2'nd (or 3'rd) Top 25 ranked team each year. Can you imagine what a good Mean Green football team could draw in Denton against a conference mate which was ranked in the Top 25? Isn't it those kind of games that get the fan base all lathered up to want to show up at Fouts for a chance to win such a game in order for us to gain our own Top 25 ranking? Isn't it easier to do it this way (that is, gain a Top 25 ranking) than merely wish & hope we could beat one of the kind of OOC games (Top 10 ranked schools, usually) that we normally have on our annual football schedules already (although we would want to keep some of them on our future schedules since strength of schedule is all important). We haven't played a ranked NCAA D1-A team on our campus since 1974. OK, I guess I now need to stop on this subject while I'm ahead, right?

Was he from Groesbeck, Texas, MG61? If not, you've stumped me.

Agree wholeheartedly with you drex, but I know we're all still quite happy to have a Parade All American HS QB checking into one of our Mean Green Village dorms this August! Wouldn't it be something if Riley grew just 1/4'th the inches in height & pounds as NT Athletic Hall of Famer (and former NFL All Pro great) Cedric Hardman did? I really do hope that Riley RS's this Fall & gets that shoulder healed 100%. You guys that got to watch the Mean Joe Greene Era of Mean Green football in Denton I still envy very much. GMG!

MG61, this would be a very boring board without your great finds and fantastic research for such good articles that you come up with on a regular basis. FWIW......appears to me that UNT has most definitly filled some holes with some pretty "heady" talent if we can go by some of these recruiting services. I am still so impressed with how Boise State had 4 years in a row of (average?) recruiting classes that had Rivals' points in the 70's and then............. ............in the 5'th year after those 4 recruiting classes how they "ONLY" beat the Oklahoma Sooners in a BCS Championship Series Bowl; of course, some of you already know that the Bronco's bowl game results versus OU impressed me by now. GMG!

So another fan of the movie "Caveman", eh, even though some of your own lines of the movie a bit slanted, eh, ADLER? A classic movie IMHO... ............................................................................. 2 in 1 post: TTG, you think if I said "white" that you might respond, uh, 'black"; you think if I post "pepper" that you might post "salt"? You and I come from different eras at UNT and our lifestyles are probably much different in so many ways, but I have my opinions based on a past that I was part of at UNT. It is obviously about 180 degrees from some younger posters on this board who cannot see anything but a Sun Belt Conference co-existance, but that is their perrogative, too. Of course, the MUTS folks have a vested interest and dire need for their to be a continued Sun Belt Conference as is & I'm sure any Blue-Raider may have not liked any of the WAC discussion of the past; but FWIW.....there were some posts on their board from some of their fans who were wanting out of the SBC for an "Anywhere Conference" back when yall thought yall were all but ready for the SEC (being facetious with that one, of course) but back when yall thought your own program was (mabye) head & shoulders over the rest of us? Spaceraider, Noah could be talking to a few posters on this board about an upcoming disaster that concerned, well, lets say, uh, water and some of this elite group of enlightened posters of know it alls on all things North Texas would immediately start buying ocean-front property just to to be different and, maybe a bit noticed, too? Sorry, but I don't see the Sun Belt as a solid conference with staying-power and I just don't want North Texas to be left at the freakin' alter again in case other leagues start filling their sudden holes of their own leagues because of defections with 2 or 3 or 4 SBC schools--which would (basically) be the end of the SBC except for a bunch of spare "no name ID" 1-AA schools the SBC would find itself haveing to fill its own holes with. Call me whatever, but I think UNT deserves better company than even the company we're in now (except for maybe 2 or 3 SBC schools, that is) One of our older alums on GMG.com who has forgotten more about North Texas than many of us will ever know about her would call such a scenario as that as "UNT staying the course too long" once again. "Hey, Noah, you are nuts, you're crazy, you're touched, & can we go ahead & water ski behind your rather large boat (ha! ha! ha!...................you are also, whoops, wait a minute here....................blub! blub! blub, blub, blub, blub! (the sounds of the swallowing of water "internet" style).

You're right, Dodge2007, kids come & go from all D1-A programs; its the nature of the beast, but if someone yells "FIRE!" in a theatre and there is no fire, God only knows what can happen with the masses. Just to bring up the name of G. Vizza as one possibly leaving to go elsewhere could have had an adverse affect even in the Vizza household. There is no reason for any of us to plant any ideas into any of these young men's heads; heck, they don't need to think they are not wanted by even such rumors. Hey folks, they're only at the ages of 17, 18, 19, etc, etc, etc, when they arrive at their dorms in August. Surely we are not going to lower ourselves to this level on GMG.com: "Mrs. Lincoln, other than what happened tonight, did you enjoy the play?"

Rumors with absolutely no basis should be investigated by the GMG.com staff, removed from this board and the instigator of unfounded rumors take a much-needed break. If you're going to post something that involves a personality, please check out the facts before you become known as GMG.com's Stephen King. I found out only 2 days ago that I had not had a very successful, uh, 25 year run in the tech school recruiting business by one who was in swaddling clothes the first year I was in that sector of education. Come on, GMG.com adiministrators, do your jobs with all this if that is (in deed) your jobs............ please. FWIW........it seems even what might be considered obvious favoritism on a few of your parts is even allowed to stay on this board. I don't think any of this was the original mission of Harry's Mean Green and knowing Harry as long as I have, I don't think he would like some of the unfounded crap being said on this board (and being allowed to stay on this board). Just my .02

Here is my concern for the Sun Belt & probably why I would hope UNT would keep an ace in the hole (whatever it could be) just in case: Here are some projections (whether you want to call them probable or improbable is your choice) but remember, this is NCAA D1-A when even longtime conferences (the Southwest Conference for starters) have dissolved and schools since the BCS label began have been known to play musical chairs for whatever their reasoning; many just not wanting to be with the company they were keeping and with some of that group--totally understandable why they made conference changes. But: (1) What IF: Troy U, FAU and/or FIU "boogy out of the 'Belt ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? FAU's Schnellenberger has almost from FAU's offical first year in the SBC expressed the fact that he would prefer FAU being in another conference. The SBC should never take that attitude from Coach Howie' too lightly, either. Right now, FAU is having some budget problems, but those kinds of things can eventually be fixed with tuition increases and some fundraising. Troy U leaving the Sun Belt? The Trojans are in CUSA's eastern footprint and if CUSA suddenly finds it has a few holes to fill (especially in the eastern part of their league) a "Top 25" Troy U program (& come on, folks, isnt' that where the Troy U football program is headed probably before any other SBC football program?); anyway, Troy U will always be available to fill some eastern holes in CUSA. All the Florida schools have shown us how quickly they can move up the NCAA D1-A ladder and out of their pioneering conferences; all this while some of us (unfortunately) stand around with our fingers up our nostrils----------without any apparent contingency plans for ourselves whatsoever and that if we suddenly find ourselve quite lonely at some point in the future with only 3 or 4 other orignal football members of the Sun Belt as left-overs. Which schools do you want the future 2'nd Largest University in Texas to be associated conference-wise, progressives? For the SBC, the pickin's will be slim. (2) What IF: WKU and/or MTSU (although it would be an outside shot) try to get into the the MAC because they are (somewhat) in its footprint and some SBC schools will do anything to say they are no longer SBC schools. Haven't both of these schools fans even thought the MAC would be a definite upgrade? Well, when I've read their boards in the past that seemed to be their theme on numerous occasions (3) What IF: ULM folds their SBC tents because of even more extreme budget problems and decides to go back to the 1-AA Southland Conference. The aforementioned involves 6 (count them) "SIX" present SBC football schools. Now I know I am just projecting and saying "What If" with all of this, but one has to only think back to the fact that if "the vaunted Southwest Conference in all of its almost 100 years of glory" can almost over-night dissolve, who would say a much less solid SBC could not in a similar amount of time? BUT if we suddenly have to replace 6 schools in the SBC because of some of the aforementioned "possibilities" can you only imagine the level of schools (w/o absolutely no name ID such as those we joined in 2001) a new, revised SBC would be replacing those 6 schools with? This is my fear for the SBC, but (once again) as one of our older alums on this board has said has been one of our flaws in the past and that is "staying the course too long" with situations that proved not worthy of our staying the course at all; hey folks, lets just keep an ace in the hole is all I been inferring, even with a possiblility of going to a league who for 2 years in a row has played in bowl games with revenues up to $17,000,000 and this while the SBC struggles with (is it ) $375,000 per team) or whatever formula Wright Waters has worked out with ticket sales from each team, etc, etc, etc, PS: For those watching the Grammy's as I presently am, doesn't Mrs. Ringo (Barbara Bach) Starr look simply great for a lady of her age?

One win over a true major BCS team can do great things; its just too bad so many around these parts have been so accepting of everything else but the kind of direction that can produce similar wins in Denton. I think UNT leadership has us where we are today. Now if each of us on this board gave $10,000 every year, that is still not going to change the general direction that UNT leaders have seemed to traditionally given us. Remember when some of us on this forum used to get those computer print-out lists from UNT and have fund-raising teams; that is, when many of us would get on the phones and call alum after alum like there was no tomorrow and............raise monies for the Mean Green Club with even some of us who actually won awards (trophies, eagle symbols, etc) in getting the most raised in the earliest part of a campaign, ie, the Early Bird Award, or the most monies raised by an individual or team period? Then Helwig came to town and stopped much of that but in all fairness to that AD, he did give us one of the most excting years many of us have ever experienced with this program with that 1994 season when we all came together to get this program back to NCAA D1-A. But (ultmately) our direction in Denton lies with our UNT upper echelon leadership. They are the ones who steer our ship and put in in whatever direction they feel their talents are capable of producing. We've not had good results with all that in the last 25 or so years FWIW.............Don't we all only hope our upper echelon types at our main campus in Denton are out on the highways, the by-ways and the hedges helping Rick V find monies for this most important new footballl stadium because what we need to raise to get what we truly need for a future in NCAA D1-A will take every upper echelon mover & shaker connected with the University of North Texas to get this done. ................................................... HERE'S YOU ONE: Has anyone on our main campus in the admin. bldg (or coming for our BOR's think tank) thought about placing a photo of what our new stadium is most likely going to look like & have it placed in one of those Madison Avenue produced & (most widely read by big time business/corporate leaders) trade journals with a one page ad and an eye-catching caption most likely unlike this: WE WANT YOU OR YOUR COMPANY'S NAME ON THIS MAJOR FOOTBALL STADIUM... LOCATED SMACK DAB BETWEEN 2 MAJOR U.S. INTERSTATES... IN A POPULATION CENTER of 7 MILLION TEXANS (with many of them who drive by this location on those 2 U.S. Interstates quite often)! Hey! We do tend to think big in Texas-- ..............So do you & your company think as big? ** IF SO, CONTACT US AT: 1-800-000-0000

Norah would be a great addition to our coaching staff (and that's about all I have to say about Norah on a public forum). GO NORAH! GO NORAH! GO NORAH!

You da' man, TTG! BTW, all these Reader's Digest giant letter edition posts dedicated to each & everyone of our longsuffering, loyal fans (and I love & appreciate ya' all no matter how much you give to UNT, the Salvation Army, United Way or even your local church or synogogue); yet this #3 size lettering dedicated to all our Old Gun Alums who've been watching football games at Fouts Field for over 30 years. Another 3-5 years at Fouts (God help us all) and I will go up to the #4 letter size on Harry's Mean Green. GMG!

Podnuh......there you go again, posting on things you are woefully short on knowledge and obviously spent absolutely no time researching whatsoever, because............... half of the 25 years I chose to be in the technical school business before I burned out of it because of (basically) tired of being around some half-assed/half collegiately trained educators, I was (in fact) a Director of Recruiting (and have awards & plaques that suggested that I was even a successful one if you can fathom that, "half right about half the time" Stebo. FWIW, I usually don't get on this forum and get into self-serving gloat, but since you have called me out just a bit, you sorta' forced my hand this time around. (Did you really finish a degree at UNT)? Yet once again, Stevarina, your revisionary history writing on this forum ceases to amaze me and also how it seems so many times to come up short on true detail & basic facts; such as how so little you know about my life (as if you even knew me past "Hello, Jim, the weathers fine"' yet how so very little you know about my 25 year career in the proprietary school business of which I would still call you sorta' a new kid on the block in that sector of education and............ ...........since we have 1 or 2 on this board that are so damn concerned with something that is really none of their damn business, and that is what I give to UNT...........lets say it this way: I've given to North Texas more than I am going to tell you. I don't think people who give sit around & count it, now do they, Stevarina? Yet it seems some have given more than North Texas has given back (as far as athletics is concerned) and, quite frankly many are waiting on a return of their investment. Judge not, stevarina, lest you be judged: No, that is not Shakespeare, O wise one with the keyboard; but It really seems some of our upper echelon UNT types most my adult life have been quite fine with my service and contribution to UNT since they did bestow a very nice honor one Spring Awards Banquet. So I never come to campus hat in hand and embarrassed as to what I've done for the school-which is never enough, but I am embarrassed at some fellow alums who act like they are God's gift to North Texas (and if you don't believe it--just ask them). Funnny, Steverina, how UNT will somehow make it & be around long after we're all gone; that is, since it did quite OK long before any of us arrived. BUT ONE MORE TIME, stebo, research, research, research, dude, before you post even one more post when you start your non-stop keyboarding because you really show your general lack of knowledge when you don't do that all important research. BTW, from one of your past unresearched doozies (and you've had quite a few) here's a question for you: When UNT was in a, uh, well, a conference (as you posted recently), with, uh, Southern Miss (clear my throat) just how well did the Mean Green fare againt those Golden Eagles back then? And I appreciate you telling me my opinion still counts because, Stevarina, I thought with about 4 of you (out of 100,000 alums) that it had truly stopped counting (and you can't believe all the sleep I was losing over that). Dear Lord Jesus: Why couldn't I have been just like Emmitt and gone to just one of all the schools he used to post that he could have attended post his own HS graduation other than UNT, because maybe then I could have been surrounded alums who would know that it would be quite normal to get more excited with wins over the University of Tennessee (as compared to Middle Tennessee)........ ..............and by more like-thinking alums who acted as if they were on top of whats going on around them in NCAA D1-A (with real life clues as how to keep their school classified at this level rather than waving the white flag and even whispering about going down a level that almost ended college football in Denton, Texas) &................. like-minded alums who really know their NCAA D1-A athletic and what it will really take for schools just like a UNT to completely disassociate itself from Stebo's Uncle Wright Water's SBC/Bottom 25. I do thank you for my fellow UNT alums who are (and have always been) on target with their progressive thinking & upwardly mobile attitudes (which, thankfully, still way out-numbers all those other poor ol' souls who just don't fit that criteria at all) AND.............thanks for everything else, too. And if you have a nice windfall of monetary gain in mind, I will be a cheerful giver. Amen & Amen & Amen. (There you go now, just see how going to UNT has driven me to religion instead of that ol' bottle of courage,ie, Jack Daniels)? Sorry for you that apparently chose Jack Daniels (and seem to post like it, too). Have A Nice Day, Fellow Progressives, and to you who continually stay confused because of what a Sun Belt Conference level of low set goals, low ball competition and its basic Bottom 25 co-existance has done to your seemed low self esteem thought-processes, you, too, also have a nice day now, ya' hear?

Yeah, I'll show up if I can watch those practices from the "Lee Harvey Oswald Memorial" coaches tower. Only at North Texas, folks, only at North Texas...

Thanks, Stebo, I've actually missed you, too. Now, lets get back to being the "conservatives versus the liberals", OK? Hey, dude, I know I can be a Grumpy Old Man at times, but what the hell else do I have to do as I approach age 60? Holey! Moley! Hope your recruiting is going well, Steve. GMG!

The only mis-justice of last Fall is that Wright Water's good buddy D.Dickey (with all his journeyman collegiate experience (ever see his resume' before UNT--it's laughable) and WW's buddy with his superior public relations skills to an alumnus & fan base); yet, the only mis-justice is that DD could not have been at UNT to bottom out all that he had begat completely. Still, I know most of us are glad Todd Dodge was hired & had to endure what would be the inevitable. Of course black unis-gate probably ended any chance our upper echelon leaders had to approve yet another contract extension. After all, our upper echelon leaders (themselves) didn't want to be tar-ed & feathered out of Denton on a rail because they would have also swept DD's symbolic mooning to our entire UNT univeristy because of his behaviour under a carpet. Then again, had the Perseverer of all that was good in the SBC/Big Easy but that which was still Bottom 25; anywya, had he been here last year, UNT probably would not have recruited who would make a NCAA D1-A Freshmen All American team & his name which rhymes with pizza. At UNT, we just simply have one basic (but on-going) cycle which just needs to be broken and that cycle being; the larger our campus spreads out all over west Denton, the larger our enrollment become with projections that we will one day pass Texas A & M University as the 2'nd Largest University in Texas; also the larger Denton becomes and................with a Denton County that now has more population within its county boundaries than the entire City of New Orleans had pre-Katrina; nevertheless, the cycle that really needs to be broken is that the larger all our aforementioned constituencies get, the smaller thinkin' many of our alums seem to get. I suppose my main problem is that I grew up watching a U of Houston athletic program (which some of you even compared some of their similararities with our own). Yet I got to watch UH do things with their football and baskeball programs that we of UNT (who dare to dream) can only dream about in our wildest dreams. Should I have enrolled at UH where they had movers, shakers, rattlers and rollers? Well, no, because they didn't have a TWU near their campus where a (once) very special girl was enrolled. THINK BIG--BUILD BIGGER! AND PLEEEEZZZZZZZZZZ CUT OUT ALL THIS "We po' but proud" mindset that a former UNT coach seems to have been quite successful in gaining some converts to such a theory who are still around today. AND.....................SUCH A THEORY THAT OUR ANNUAL BOTTOM 25 CO-EXISTANCE SEEMS TO HAVE INUDATED A HANDFUL OF OUR ALUMS, SPECIFICALLY A FEW ON THIS FORUM; YOU KNOW THE ONES, IE, THOSE ALUMS WHO WERE BARELY A TWINKLE IN THEIR RESPECTIVE FATHER'S EYES WHEN WE BEAT THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE VOLUNTEERS (& OTHERS FWIW) & THOSE WHO CAN ONLY JOKE ABOUT SUCH TIMES SINCE THEY NEVER SAW THEM FIRST-HAND AND THOSE WHO................JUST CANNOT BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE KIND OF WINS DID FOR THE HOPES & DREAMS OF MANY WHO THE LAST 30 YEARS HAVE ALMOST GIVEN UP ON SUCH DREAMS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY WHO (IF YOU GO BY WHAT THEY POST ON GMG.COM) SEEM TO WANT SO MUCH LESS. (DON'T FORGET NOW........"we po' but proud." WHEN WE OLD GUN ALUMS FINALLY GET READY TO CROAK & PASS THE TORCH TO A YOUNGER GENERATION, BUT BEFORE WE DO, WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO PASS THAT TORCH TO THOSE WHO CAN & WILL DREAM MUCH, MUCH BIGGER THAN WHAT WRIGHT WATER'S THROW-TOGETHER LEAGUE OF BOTTOM DWELLERS SEEMS TO HAVE PRODUCED AN ATTITUDE SEEM MANY TIMES ON GOMEANGREEN.COM THAT THIS IS THE ONLY LEVEL WE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO ATTAIN AT UNT. EXPERIENCED COLLEGE COACHES YOU SAY? WELL............LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT, THAT IS............. let's just go out & get more "experienced" journeymen college football coaches who might also set low goals & do their best to try to retire in Denton based on lowly set goals that were (in deed) reached; you know, where all you have to to is merely B.S. some who'll buy into the B.S. that they want Big Time Football (yet their actions & our most upper echelon fund-raising skills & enthusiasm seemingly proving different). A QUESTION: How long did UNT have those monies ($1.2 million?) in the bank from that the very wealthy Denton County family gave us & to do with those monies what we are finally just now getting around to doing this week? Didn't that "ble$$ed" family in Denton County give that money now well over a year and half ago? Anyone else wonder about the time lapse of when they actually gave those monies to the events of this week; that is, when we are finally getting (only) "blue-print" plans started? AND........just what year are our leaders truly projecting to have a finished football stadium? And might rushing all this give us an Erection Set Stadium a la FIU, too? I now, it really is a Catch 22 we have working with this new stadium thing in Denton. Still sorta' ironic how just ONE BIG DONOR could still change every bit of this overnight.

Agree, GMoney! And after all, FAU had gone to the NO's bowl, had just had a presidential debate nationally televised on their campus, too; every kid in Florida should have been tripping all over themselves to join Howard "Father Time" Schnellenberger's football program. On the other side of the coin, we should all be glad FAU was not in the SBC when its football operations began in 2001. If Coach Howie's program would have been elgible for the NO's Bowl back in the SBC inaugural football operation's year of 2001, "then" de facto AD, ie, UNT BOR Chairman Bobby Ray may have had to have actually backed-off & allowed UNT AD Rick V to do the kind of things most of us thought he had been hired to do..............and with that that should have most likely happened in Monroe, Louisiana, in October of 2001, ya' think? I don't care what kind of season we had last year because the 2 years prior to last Fall sugggested we very well would have had just what we had, but I know most of us are still glad we have Coach Todd Dodge in Denton, Texas, America, and those of his (still) present doubters will (I'll wager) have to eat a whole bunch of crow in due time. Hellsbells, I only recently heard that even SBC Commish' Wright Waters did not even want UNT to hire Coach Dodge in the first place back in the day as if it were "HIS" business--could there be any actual degree of truth to "THAT?" rumor? Does ol' WW want UNT to always keep this SBC/Bottom 25'ish co-existance going all the time or what? If that is the case (and I am being a bit facetious with all of that, of coursee), but I don't Wright is going to be right at all with any of that; that is, he is not going to get his wish. It may not be the WAC, but anytime we can leave the SBC for whoever, I know a bunch on this board who will applaud that action & others who would jump on such a bandwagon, too. Any league that has some of our very own (and truly best) alums putting down actual bowl games (which did happen to have 2 WAC participants) yet with their 2 bowl games producing approx. $17 million each year as compared to the NO's Bowl's shrinking $750,000 has got some of our best fans in some kind of strangle-hold or catatonic trance of actually want a bowl with $750K versus $17 million and stating such on GMG.com for heaven's sake... Anyway, congrats to Coach Dodge & Staff for their efforts in bringing in this fine group of student/athletes to our main campus in Denton. I feel this is only the start of even bigger things to come.

How can one subscribe to that nationally respected recruiting service called D/RC Recruiting Updates Every Hour On The Hour (and it always being a bit overly too objective about the school in its own hometown? Will the DRC Recruiting Service let us know when some of the other higher rated SBC school's "star'ed players who don't have the grades & can't get into school which will will lower their recruiting grades; anyway, will we get updates on that kind of thing? Probably about the same way they handled another situation that was racially blown out of proportion, too, and that they swept under their D/RC rug as if they had''t puffed that story way out of proportion? If UNT were only located in any other town the size of Denton it would...(you go ahead & finish the sentence). Hint: We would not be on the "100 Year Plan" for success to say the least. I can still read anything the D/RC has from front to back before bed time & still go to sleep with absolutely nothing on my mind; albeit, my pet parakeet has a different take on that paper when she reads it from high above her perch; that is, the parts that she hasn't (purposely) "white'd" out. Let's hope that we do this new football stadium business the right way; you know, the NCAA D1-A way? The Big Boys are getting restless (and greedy) again, folks, and in the past (lest we forget) they have used stadium seating capacity to cull the wheat from the chaffe. Lets not get chaffed (or shafted) this time around.