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Of what year or decade? gmg!

GrayEagle: Always the voice of well thought out reason. You are the Eric Sevareid of GMG.com, Jack. (No, few "yungins" will know who that former CBS employee was). See you and Jessica next week at Fouts, Jack! GMG!

NORTH gmg!

Well, Jim, if your going to get kicked, upstairs beats downstairs. Congrats! GMG! PS: OK...Mr. I.T. guy, check out my website & critique me. www.soundworksdeejay.com

Jim, not quite sure I heard ya' could you repeat it again? Signed: Jim You still IT'in' at the same place?

These 2 schools should go ahead and trade cities, too, or just close one of the cities down which would close one of the 2 schools by default. You know a state thats had Huey P. "The Kingfish" Long running the show just about anything left of center or things from the far side are possible albeit their present Gov' Jindel is a right-on, pro-active sort of guy. I started this thread in a tonuge in cheek sort of way and never dreamed some would take it this serious but........my secret plan would be for La Tech to join the SBC and then we would congratulate them and proceed to take the upcoming CUSA slot! GMG!

Posted it somewhat early in the game, but it appeared MUTS DL was extremely susceptible to the run. If UNT can run as I think we will, the MUTS game this season is winnable. I know so many other variables exist like special teams, kicking game, etc, etc, etc, but 3 yards and a cloud of dust to win games is OK by this North Texas Ex. Other side of the coin is if we don't control the clock, MUTS could have many quick strikes for quick points. It should make for an interesting game. Seems as if we even beat the MUTS in a couple of our losing seasons if memory serves me correct. GMG! Question: How long before the SBC has a BCS bowl buster kinda' team?

That is a biased, less than sensitive crock for them to do this and hang our guys in our bowl division out to dry without a hearing. GMG!

Drex, Al just knew you'd be drawing those mean, ugly caricatures of him and that's what I heard was the reason he would not fly the friendly skies with you on board the team plane. GMG! PS: Agree, take the interim off Rawlins title.

Who else would I possibly be talking about?

Looks like MUTS may be not so strong against the run. Games like this the team who can run should run, run, run and eat the hell out of the clock and with our team vertically stretch one of our speed'sters for the occasional long pass. I think our offensive line with our running game will keep us in most conference & SBC games--now winning those games is another thing; who knows, maybe Lady Luck will change sides this season and give the Mean Green a big ol' (over-due) smile. And jeez, this kid is their #2 QB? GMG! 29,000 plus for their attendance. Must be counting no shows?

Pride cometh before destruction? GMG! MUTS 2'nd string QB doesn't look that bad. For sure we need MUTS to win this game.

This wildcat formation intrigues me. They had to have some exotics in their play book with Riley Dodge around as it is. GMG!

We needed some more of the out of box lagniape here. OK..concerning LaTech, the Southern Gent' that Commish' Wright Waters seems to be he would probably help rescue La Tech if they ran out of all options even though they've kicked insults left and right about almost every school in the 'Belt and the SBC itself. Irony is how stable the SBC is in all this fruit basket turnover re-alignment business. So what do you think Dwayne of Minden and Hog Dog? Bring it on! Don't be shy now! Yet........I'm tired of talking about HFry, DDickey and TDodge for the time being but now I can only say: ARE YOU READY FOR............GAME DAY?!?! GMG!

Hey, greenminer, I've long since gotten back inside my box. GMG! PS: Ten$ of dollar$, eh?

GMG! PS: And just how long do you need to be at North Texas for crisakes' to meet the criteria for success of our most scrutinizing critics panel? Fry did more in 6 years than most at UNT did in 4, 5, 8, 9, 10 or 20 years. We probably had too many in Denton who early on lost their effectiveness and welcome out as well, quite frankly. One reason for this 3 decades-plus Mean Green Roller Coaster Ride. (Hey, it doesn't take Dr. Phil to figure some of this stuff out, folks). A sure fire way of knowing if you had something good is not what people on a fan forum like GMG.com feel about it, but rather when a Big 10 school hires your coach away from you. I am trying to think how many coaches I've seen in Denton move up besides our 2 year coach Jerry Moore who was not that popular with his style back in his younger days and hardly had a going away party when he left Denton. Sometimes, I just don't know about some of our posters and what part of their torsos their brains are located. So sue me--I'm too old to care. Stadium Name? We need no name from UNT but we do need a corporate name on our stadium and a corporation who has given UNT $15-20 million to get that priviledge.....IMHO. I'm still trying to figure out how we are building this new stadium during the worst USA economy since the Great Depression. This is a modern miracle in my mind's eye and whoever is making this happen deserves a statue or 2 or 3. (Did our previous lady president lose her job because of this stadium--I just wonder).

As my English ancestors might say: IT'S THE GALLOWS!

I think a break even year will save his job. I don't know about 5 wins, unless he wins the Sun Belt with those 5 wins and ties for the championship or something like that (and we being the last team who went to a bowl and get a bowl because of that). Hell, all this would just be easier if he won 7 games! GMG! Guess that's why the play the games, eh?

I realize you're still in your sarcastic mode, TFLF, and I know who you used to emulate around MG Country, too, but I don't know of anyone in UNT's past since 1890 (including Fry) that I would see having our stadium named after, but I guarantee you one thing that we need to find coaches who have above .500 W/L records before they even be considered to have their names on lesser venues. In fact, UNT should come up with a new by law on naming rights and their criteria. What the hell do we do if the Mafia comes up with $20 million for UNT athletics, name the damn stadium---Al Capone Memorial Stadium? Great fund-raising coup for certain, but a terrible public relations bone-head of an idea. GMG! Addendum: OK, I know as a poster and fan I was hardly what you would have called kinder or gentler with Coach DD, but there were things well beyond wins and losses his last 2 seasons that created my concern as a fan with what was going on during that time. I think the final proof of the pudding for me (after 4 bowl appearances) as far as what we were getting & at the level (with the other 116 schools) was that no one ever interviewed or hired DD away from us; in fact, I think Idaho (a lesser or lateral program at best) was the only one who showed passing interest so........ I guess its not politically correct to be right on this forum once in a while (even a blind squirrel finds an acorn) but obviously non-UNT'ers and non-GMG.com posters were also not what you'd call duly impressed, either. And Retro'n Back To Another Firing: Hayden Fry's firing at SMU (as I recall reading from a blurb in the DMN & Blackie Sherrod's famous "Just Scattershootin'..." column: His dismissal at SMU after the 1972 season was influenced largely when an SMU higher up (probably Dick Davis) asked a Dallas Cowboy official what they thought of Fry and his job at SMU; well, that Cowboy official said "he didn't think SMU was getting much at all with Hayden Fry as coach over on Mockingbird Lane." Not comparing Fry with junk, but one man's junk is another man's treasure? As former NT AD Andy Everest once said, "NT was lucky to get Coach Fry when we did." We had a treasure for 6 years whose dreams impressed me enough as a student to stay on board most of the last 30 plus years. And agreeing with the poster/father below & I'd add: This program would have soon been dead in the water with our non-stop usage of Fouts Field--but that multi-generation albotross will soon be twisted steele and concrete dust. So I guess its just the nature of the beast in the NCAA with all these coaches firings & the surrounding fallout, eh? Sue me if you must but I (like you) have an opinion, too.

It's an opportunity game--not a must win game. I think the Rice U game next week better fits the "MUST" category and no matter what happens in Clemson this weekend, I look forward to the Rice Game at Fouts Field's last home season opening game. GMG!

And don't forget these North Texas Exes: Pat Boone, James Hampton (whose light bulb blew up in his cell in the first "The Longest Yard", Norah Jones, Bill Moyers, Michael Martin Murphy, NFL female broadcast pioneer, former Miss America and Dentonite--Phyliss George, Shirley Cothran Barrett (our 2'nd Miss Amercia & from Denton) etc, etc, etc, Footnote: Rock & Roll pioneer Pat Boone & his actor buddy James Hampton were on campus a few years ago listening to our UNT Symphony Orchestra rehearse at the Murchison Performing Arts Center. When they walked in on the rehearsal, the orchestra gave them a very nice ovation as I recall the story. Footnote 2: I believe all of Pat & Shirley Boone's daughters were born at Denton's Flow Memorial Hospital, too. GMG!

TDodge says "it's 7 wins or bust" for his program but I think he would be asked to sign an extended contract if we won 6 games and I think most in the UNT community would not have a problem with that at all. Either way, it will be most interesting to see who our HFC is when when debut our spanking new football palace next football season. (I, too, hope it's TDodge and I base that not so much his winning 6 or 7 games this Fall but the way he does all the other things, too, starting with his P.R. abilitiies of which many of you closer to the scene say is very admirable). GMG!

The La Tech'sters need to develop the mindset of: "Hey, it's either the Sun Belt Conference or the Southland Conference!" (Wonder if some of their elect would still choose the Southland)?

And I heard somewhere that our region is even more windy than the Windy City--Chicago. So now we should be knocking on T. Boone Picken's door to invite him to Denton as to give him a guided tour of our wind turbines and..........The New Stadium @ The Mean Green Village?

Dodge has conducted himself professionally because he is a professional. He has a future at whatever level because of it, too. If he leaves UNT, he will leave with grace. Many of us on this board with even one of our alums on KTCK "The Ticket" (in deed) pushed for the 2 time National High School Coach of the Year to get our job. We had no idea how he'd work out and few would have ever known when Helwig single-handedly hired DD that he would have 3 winning seasons out of 9, either. (Be careful making friends with UNT athletic employees--you might find yourself supporting someone because of friendship rather than performance). UNT has been a coaches graveyard for many who came before him & TDodge probably even weighed in all that before he took our job in mid-December 3 years ago. With no legitimate promise of a new stadium when he was hired, he really took a gamble with us. Most of our coaches at UNT took jobs who had campus leaders who didn't have clue what direction to take our football program and few could deny that and that was the environment of which most worked. Dodge seems to be handling all this better than some on this forum. It will not be the end of his coaching world if he doesn't meet the critria laid down for him in his 4'th season. DD had his first above .500 season in his 5'th season, but I realize the stakes are higher now that the Sun Belt has slowly and methodically passed us which really started to happen in DD's last few seasons in Mean Green Country. I digress: I still look forward to the day Hayden Fry will have something named after him on our campus. I'm not sure his forward thinking for North Texas might have been his downfall among those on campus who mostly thought in a backwards sort of mode years before he was elected into the College Football Hall of Fame. Can you imagine UNT naming something after a former coach with the skins ol' Hay'Boy has on his wall? This will probably not happen in my lifetime which I hope has at least 20 years (give or take) left. That would make me 80 years old (give or take). To you already there at 80 (+ or -) and who have hung in there since you graduated, my hat is off to you and it is your group who should be asked to stand at our stadium's Grand Opening with the PA guy saying: "For those UNT alums who have dreamed the longest for this day & this football palace----we salute you." Just my 02. GMG!