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Oh Good Lord, thanks for letting us wander in the wildnesss for almost 40 years as this has driven even more Mean Green fans to religion and that can't ever be bad. Amen. GMG! PS: Lord, before some of us go on up to Mean Green heaven, do you mind allowing us to beat FAU at least once? Thanks in advance. GMG!!

True, so true! Before TTech's Top 10 run, the Tech AD Gerald Myers was having a terrifically terrible time getting Leach to sign a new contract. Word on the street from some Tech'sters I spoke to said (back in that day) that they thought Leach really wanted to leave Lubbock. With Leach's present lawsuit versus the State of Texas, ie, versus Texas Tech, a state assisted school--I think many would agree that he would fit in the hot potato category for any public university in the Lone Star State to even think about hiring. Afer all, he was insubordinate with all the TTech powers that be and most schools at any level would see that as a tremendous giant red flag. I think Leach's future is in the NFL or where he is now--ESPN commentator. Still, the best part of all this Leach talk to me is that more on this board are talking "well known coach" more than I can ever remember; that is, if we need to hire a new coach. GMG!

One of the secretaries over at Dunder Mifflin actually typed it up for us--of course, not Pam. (Wait a minute, am I being redundant all over again with that one)? (000)000-0000 GMG!

FFR, one of those 2 billboards you've seen I presume is on Fort Worth's NW Loop 820 promoting UNT's Aviation whatever degree--the only such degree of its kind. The color of green is darker than on our unis', maybe it looks more like Marshall U's but there is no SOW which would not have take much effort. The ones who put that billboard design together probably don't know whether we are Eagles or Mean Green. I think whatever more potential controversial things Neinas may have put on his public report was probably confided privately with our interim Prez and AD Rick V. I think all 3 know what they are doing. Neinas is someone UNT needs to consult with as regularly as we can to keep that tie-in. And GrayEagle posted this of which most of us would agree: I don't know if his response was factual or opinion but I heartily agree that it's more about who said it than what was actually said. There were some points that seeped through a rather ordinary report. This coaching staff must produce or be gone. Don't waste money trying to advertise heavily in Dallas or Fort Worth. Start in Denton and Denton County and expand outwards. Win, especially in football. Increase basketball attendance. Begin a baseball program ASAP. Our very large number of alumni is a plus and most of them are under 50. The new stadium can be a magnificent tool to link the university and the community. Start building tradition now. Dominate the Sun Belt Conference. Did I mention win? GrayEagle The UNT Academic Community Game Day Advantage: If anyone doesn't agree that each college or department within the UNT academic community will not benefit from bringing their own potential donors to sit in our New Stadium @ Mean Green Village luxury seats to get duly impressed as they look over I-35E and onto our campus, please raise your hand (no plural here). GMG!

First, I wonder what UNT officials truly wanted Neinas to find out that they didn't already know? That is why I think there is more to this chapter than we civilians will really ever know. Another UNT athletic consultant (Gene Stallings) told us to forget building a new stadium on our campus, too, so just what did we do? (Maybe we should invite Coach Gene to our new stadium Grand Opening and let him have some scissors at the ribbon-cutting? I think Neinas sees the futility of SMU trying for the Dallas (University Park) market and maybe he thinks (like me) that Dallas is a complete wash-out for the Dallas Cowboys? Who knows, but we should expand our wings further out than he suggests. I like our base: Denton County..............approx. 600,000 pop. City of Denton............... over 100,000 pop. UNT Enr.............................36,000 plus DFW NT Exes?...............Who the heck has ever known but years ago was said to be approx. 100,000 which would be tantamount to a very nice-sized city in any area of Texas. Agreeing with NT80's closing sentence, I think Chuck Neinas was paid more to be our future (very important) friend and ally as he was to be consultant. His Report? Maybe one of the secretaries from Dunder Mifflin put the final copy and graph together? Of course, that would not be Pam I'm talking about here. GMG!

I love it! But more funky theme threads on the way..................anything to slow down a hardy handful from forever comparing and arguing about our last 2 losing coaching regimes. I mean come on now, did you ever hear stories of defeated Johnny Rebs bragging (or even arguing) about how the Yanks didn't kick their a$$e$ half as bad at Vicksburg as they did Gettysburg? uh.......GMG!

But All About UNT, if we had a mascot with the name Zips might that affect attendance anywhere ? Seriously, they have 10,000 less under-grad students than UNT and anyone can say what they want, but our last few record-breaking UNT Freshmen classes seem to hang in with this football program even during the down years. No way of knowing, but I think our program is gaining some semblance of momentum totally based on our New Stadium @ The Mean Green Village. People know when they're at Fouts Field's this Fall, they will still be near the "palace" that will be the one single major vehicle that will get Mean Green football out of our multi-year funk. I think our first year there, our numbers will be significant more than Akron U's. Now from the 2'nd year on, we need to start playing and beating some known football schools; you know, like we used to do up there in the old days? GMG!

And I, for one, don't believe it either. More smack board urban tales. Can't see Leach taking that job or ours for that matter. He seems to be the type to want to take the next step up or a higher profile job from wherever his previous stop would have been--right now that would be the school located in the Llano Estocado, ie, high plains of Texas. Like Huff posted earlier in another thread (and I liberally paraphrase), would have been interesting if Leach were the UNM coach because they do play TTech often. Seems to me that they used to recruit pretty heavily against each other, too. GMG!

Just another GMG.com urban tale? We've heard many thru the years. NOTE: All should check out the stadium web cam before the sun goes down. Quite exciting! GMG!

I like the ones I took the liberty on your post to highlight in black, untjim; that is, a 9 team conference. Acutally, the jist of this thread was not re-alignment at all; that is, from one existing conference to another, but was about the forming of a brand new conference period. OK, Neinas! Help us do some cherry pickin' before some of the leagues we steal from to form this brand new conference knows what hit 'em! I'm sure there would be at least one bowl who would take our football champion over an under .500 school of which some thread says a few bowls may have to take this year. Of course, like most all threads and posts on GMG.com--merely speculation. GMG!

I agree, Tony, I think the value of Neinas for UNT is what he is not reporting publicly on that report. I have no idea how much UNT paid him for the time he was briefly on our payroll as a consultant. He would be one of the highest paid ones in the NCAA from all accounts. North Texas has apparently made a friend with him and even his telephone counsel will soon be invaluable I'd wager. He seems sincerely impressed with what we're doing and I don't think he is one to blow a lot of smoke, either. After all, he does have an apparent reputation to maintain and aimless B.S. would not be part of it. GMG!

Yes, be nice to Chuck Neinas. He really does have skins on the wall and many on this board knew that before he was even involved with CUSA and FWIW..........UNT needs many kinds of friends with this guy's stature among the power hitters in the NCAA. You know, sometimes its like the old adage of its not what you know but... GMG!

Judge Joe, it was on the Vito's thread in the Mean Green Football section titled: Live Blog From Neinas Presser Read the article once on the DRC blog. Great days! GMG! (000) 000-0000 <<<<All you thread kid-nappers with the magic phone number figure out whose phone number this really is and you win a luxury suite at Fouts Field next Fall. GMG!!

Not sure what we were expecting from Neinas today and I think I was even hoping for at least one earth-shattering suggestion, but I'd sure like UNT to keep him in our corner and on our side for future reference. One day Neinas' influence may actually help us improve our athletic lot in life and conference placement. When he was with CUSA and had we already had what we will have by this time next year, he could have very well gone back to the CUSA powers that be and said....Fellers! UNT will bring much to the table and bring many, many, many more traveling fans than some of the traditionals in the league. They also have some of the hottest looking chicks this side of Chicago's Playboy Mansion! GMG!

Unbelievable! Your figures are close to my own-- in fact, maybe off by just a mere 2 bucks! (of course I jest) With as many who read GMG.com, I thought "one" may have been in on information from our first bids on construction materials and might know some of the companies that got the bids and perhaps what some of the total highest construction costs would have been for the final product. Otherwise, most likely an impossible question to answer for most novices on construction costs of which I would be toward the top of that list. GMG!

What concrete and steel I've seen and what will be the final results looks much, much more than a $78,000,000 cost. All you construction experts--what do you say? (I know--probably a toughie on that question but Neinas seems to know what he's talking with his "North Texas gotta' great deal on this new stadium" statement. Wonder what it would cost today if our football stadium was just at the blueprint stage and we were just now getting bids? Did this same company who built the Dallas Cowboys stadium give us a helluva' bid because of the economy and so they cut us a deal we could not turn down? Wonder what the other bids from at least 2 other companys would have been, also? Did any UNT alums win any of the bids on this project which I think state of Texas agencies/universities have to have at least 3 bids? Like maybe from UNT alum/basketball letterman Jim Rainboldt of Fort Worth, ie, owner of Tarrant Concrete who received much work for much of the UNT Health Science Center At Fort Worth? Anyone know if Mr. Rainboldt got in on any of this action? I hope he did. I think this stadium if bid on today would be well over $100,000,000 plus. So what do you experts say on what you've seen thus far? GMG!

TTG! You Are Da' Man! Thanks for finding that as I misplaced my VHS copy of John's very funny monologue.

Talk about a blast from the past! UNT has 4 NCAA National Championships from the Don January/Billy Maxwell era. Who knows what could happen with this golf team. Wouldn't it be appropiate if some of the old golf course (perhaps a very green tailgate area?) where our football palace is being built could be given a "golf-esque" name pertaining to the legacy of our golf program at UNT? I mean, come on now, "4" NCAA National Championships and that was with the Big Boys, too, or pre D1-A or D1AA or D1AAA and so forth. GMG!

Hey now, go easy on Golden Chick, our's has buffalo wings for .30 each till 2:00 PM every day and that is a stea...I mean, a deal! GMG!

You left out ATI Career Training (business college) here in the Metroplex. "Their school colors would be manilla." (an old SUMG joke on a similar subject from his A&E Network televised Evening at the Improve monologue in Los Angeles as I recall). And how 'bout: UT-Arlington At Fort Worth? (There is actually a campus over here in the West O' Plex with that exact name; that is, with 2 city names in its name.

Uh, apology accepted, pal. Tell our common friends hello or should I say, "friends we have in common?" You put together quite an interesting league and (honest to goodness) I really don't care what SMU does one way or the other. In fact, UNT should show them how neighbors normally act with each other stumbling all over ouselves to make sure they get in. GMG!

Seriously, is there an advanced copy of this report? GMG!

And this would be only schools that are already in the FBS, too; that is, those who presently meet FBS full criteria. In this dream conference, GMG.com posters, that is, the few, the bold, the brave who participate in this "non-coach--does he stay or leave related thread" may want to consider taking on that same TCU attitude of not being associated with too many Texas schools which has given the Fort Worth school some semblance of exclusivity and why not--look what its done for the Horned Frogs of late, bowl-wise, compared to what CUSA had done on a lower scale? And which bowl would work with this brand new leagues' first few champions in an "at large" basis since some even this year may need to go with schools who have under .500 records to fill their bowl slots? Would Chuck Neinas help a coalition of regional schools get together for such a bold venture? Not going to happen, but I can only hope that that would be one of his suggestions for UNT athletics to ponder about at their 1:00 PM meeting today. Moral of Thread: The SBC (according to media experts) will not any time soon be anything close to a BCS Bowl Buster conference. We ain't leaving the SBC anytime soon, either, but shouldn't we have a contingency plan if the SBC becomes a league we don't recognize in the next 5 years, member-wise? GMG!

When all this MAC business first came up on the WKU board a few years ago they seemed to all go ape-$hi& wanting to know "how soon can we get in?" Reading MG61 in his above post I guess they've changed their tune? GMG! PS: I just wish the NCAA would not be so harsh on schools who want to start a brand new conference with all the things a new conference are not allowed to do for quite a few years; but, of course, that would tend to keep people from forming new leagues every 2 years, too, I suppose. GMG!

This from Coach Andy Mac on the Tavern: http://www.annarbor.com/news/emu-ad-mac-...ar-future/ Sorry, link doesn't seem to be working. According to the above link, the MAC may look to expand within the next two years, and Temple more than likely will be joining a new conference. I said all along that the Big East and Temple would more than likely strike a deal. I beleive the key to that deal is Villanova (since both Temple and Villanova are in the Philly area). Since Villanova has been extended an offer to bring their football up to the FBS Big East level, odds are that Temple and its now solid football and always solid basketball programs will join the Big East. As for MAC additions, I could definitely see offers to either WKU and MTSU, or both. That is, unless Missouri State decides to move up their football to the FBS level. Then I could see them replacing either WKU or MTSU on that list. Things are getting interesting...is the SBC Office paying attention to all of this? View the full article