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Rivals seems to have a monopoly on the print media recruiting business and many newspapers I suppose now use their services or eventually will. SUMG, I, too, miss all the Texas major city newspapers State Top 100 and Top Locals as well. Of course, the greatest of them all, ie, Max Emfinger Recruiting Services, also seems to have faded from the pack.

This seems to be happening quite a bit of late on GoMeanGreen.com forevereagle, just wait till you receive an actual demand to explain what is "not" in your post and you get a group of guerilla posters start hitting everthing you post with a bunch of red numbers for saying something like...... "Jesus wept." (BTW, the shortest verse in the Bible). I blame whatever it is in the Denton water supply for most of this. Actually, we've all been affected but at varying degrees of....affection. (No, I am not gay, either, for some who will very loosely interrpret the choice of the word "affection" on this male dominated sports smack board). GMG! PS: And by the way, why did you post what TV market is El Paso in? I know I read that between the lines you sneaky rascal! And why do you seem to imply that UTEP will pull in the whole state of Texas with that TV market? I demand an answer! (uh, see what I mean). GMG!!

So glad to know our $80,000,000 football palace on the eve of completion has made such a remarkable impression on the DaMN. 30 years ago had their been the internet you would have read similar UNT concerns. Its just some things never seem to change, but on the other side of the coin how much coverage does the Denton Record/Chronicle give the other schools on recruiting day? Still no excuse for a UNT System school with such an important Greater Dallas presence still be treated like a red-headed step child. As JayDub posted, though, at some point we do need to start winning instead of bitching. (I added the "B" word).

Fry's first Mean Green recruiting class beat the Tennessee Volunteers in their 3'rd year at North Texas. Bet Coach McCarney & Co beat someone as impressive their 3'rd year on campus; that is, if we've scheduled someone impressive in this classes 3'rd year, ie, 2013. ; Great job, Coach Mac & the Mean Green coaching staff!

"The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind. (Move on....I have). GMG!

How funny you are. Writing comedy out in the land of fruits and nuts now? Courtland, what does the price of wheat have anything to do with anything, too? Enlighten us all and explain that one. Get your DHS buddies together now, have some fun with some red ink (as usual) and lets pray for Mean Green basketball sucess. Wait a minute! What does Mean Green basketball have to do with anything?

Now Courtland, lets read together the orignial post below (in italics) once again. I know the geography of California pretty well since I actually had relatives there (San Franciso) in the 60's who were visited by their Texas kin back in the day (Personally, I loved the city of Sausalito across the bay). Also, I am not making any comparison with San Diego versus San Jose (region or TV markets) that you seem to see in my post below, either. I am saying that the MWC already has "a CA. presence w/o comparing any CA. TV markets at all--or Texas TV markets for that matter. If there is anything else you are reading into my below post, let me know about that, too--who knows, there may be a TV sitcom idea between the lines somewhere. San Jose State last I heard is hanging by a thread with their athletic program and being in California with its economic problems would hardly make them a viable candidate in my opinion. I know we're all placing all our respective schools in the MWC, but with the MWC already having a San Diego presence with the Aztecs, I think their next (larger) TV market could very well be the North Texas Metroplex, but we know not all makes sense with some of these re-alignment decisions from past history. too. GMG!

Honestly, I'd bet many of the Denia-ites want North Texas to declare imminent domain so they can sale and then boogie.

TV market. Addendum: 2 words: "TV market" merits 2 red numbers? I am amused with those who would give 2 red numbers for 2 words, ie, TV market? Harry, you sure you want to keep this feature? To me its more a grading system on those who post the red numbers than the posts itself and might make some ask the question.............what's crawled up their arses to make them put red numbers on 2 words.........."TV market." Only at North Texas, folks, only at North Texas. There is a reason we are where we are and an over-abundance of progressive thinking alums is not one of them.

Other things pertinent to the University of North Texas also come from the "Whorns" home city of Austin. We of UNT always need to be cognizant of whats happening in that town so-named after Stephen Fuller Austin. GMG!

Have you followed San Joses' program the last decade? It sucks like no other and if there is a school that truly cannot pull in their own market it would be San Jose State. I know we are all speculating on this MWC business, but I don't think Craig Thompson's league is giving 2 iotas of mental energy toward the direction of San Jose, CA.

And a more viable, reputable list than the other one posted a few days ago.

It will be the "we ain't got nothing to gain and everything to lose" thing from Tech aimed at TCU. I honestly believe that worn out philosophy was born in the old Southwest Conference truth be known. Jeez, what a bunch of social climbers we have in Texas football collegiate circles, though. Fact is, TCU has not established itself as a long term success story just yet and many of the Big Boys from the AQ conferences will still want to call them a flash in the pan that they will want the Frogs to get their "flash" somewhere else besides their campus stadia. I think most of us tend to pull for the TCU's and Boise's of the college football world, though, since that will be our lot in college football life when we start emulating both of those programs. GMG!

Or until Susan Boyle sings, Jack? (Slap my face, I liked her "Brittain's Got Talent" story and her voice for that matter). Most of us won't start real speculation on our part of any of this (if there is an "our part of any of this" until there is a Craig Thompson (MWC Commish') sighting over at the Mean Green Village or our new football palace. If that happens then this board will all but go viral. (Personally, I'd like to see this board go viral)! GMG!

East Carolina or Memphis? Except I think Louisville would black-ball the Tigers from getting in. I can't imagine any school from the SBC since we still seem to be looked on as the lepers colony of FBS football. I take that back...North Texas would be a great traveling partner for another Big East school in the vicinity; of course, a little bit of bias working here on that one! GMG!

San Jose State last I heard is hanging by a thread with their athletic program and being in California with its economic problems would hardly make them a viable candidate in my opinion. I know we're all placing all our respective schools in the MWC, but with the MWC already having a San Diego presence with the Aztecs, I think their next (larger) TV market could very well be the North Texas Metroplex, but we know not all makes sense with some of these re-alignment decisions from past history. too. GMG!

And God help us use Chuck Neinas in pushing our product with MWC officials because this is where every penny we've paid him thus far can really pay off for North Texas. I like our new UNT Prez's background in the NCAA, too; probably moreso than any prior Prez' we'ver ever had at UNT from all I hear. The next few weeks could be strategic in the history of our univerisity, but we do have a fair fall back just in case. We just need our "fall back" to start getting its best team(s) in Top 25 polls just like the MAC seems to have pulled off with their consortium of sports scribes who have no problem giving their schools the votes to get em' in and............... with some of their Top 25'ers being schools I think some of our best SBC teams probably could have beaten. SBC Commish' Wright Waters needs to look into how the MAC gets theirs in such polls and we don't. In fact, New Orleans would be a great place for him to entertain sports writers who have a vote for Top 25 polls. GMG!

Like one TV sportscaster said about TCU: "They recruit a bunch of 1 or 2 (sometimes 3 star) recruits who turn into 4 or 5 star recruits before they leave Fort Worth." I think that is what we of UNT can expect, too, but I re-iterate that our 1 or 2 star recruits we do sign most all need to be able to run like the wind before they report to their first Mean Green 2-A-Days.

Gut feeling tells me they will table any expansion plans for the moment. Probably need to study it a bit more? Whichever North Texas Metroplex school that would interest MWC powers would come with a population center in our 6 county area that (alone) is larger than a few MWC state's population totals added together. I don't know how they don't replace TCU to get this market back even if it were by chance SMU (thereby leaving a gaping hole in CUSA if that occurred). TV marketing moguls might suggest to MWC officials that they cannot ignore a Top 5 TV market (DFW) especially when it comes to putting their future conference football TV packages together. Granted, TCU did not have the best TV arrangement with their time in the MWC, but they still gave the Mountain West Conference the largest TV market in their league and I'm sure the MWC will find a better TV package that pleases all in their league in due time. If UNT officials would do their research and if this gets serious enough to merit such, they can show league officials that its just not little ol' ladies with purple-tinted hair or shut'ins who have watched our TV games in the past. We do have almost 100,000 North Texas Exes in DFW and we have as big a chance as anyone of having the most alums from a single school to have more viewers for a MWC football matchup in DFW than other Texas universities local alums; that is, such Texas-based schools who don't have 1/4'th the alumnus numbers that we have in this densely populated part of Texas where our main campus just happens to call home base, too. In sales, we used to always say: "It's a numbers game" and I think TV moguls who produce conference college football game packages for said conferences would agree with that more than most salesmen. The Lone Star State Big 2 plus North Texas: MWC officials might also need to know that UNT has more alums in the North Texas Metroplex than anyone and that includes the Lone Start State's Big 2, ie, UT-Austin and Texas A & M. On the other side of the coin, without the North Texas Metroplex as part of the MWC TV market, it would have a very noticeable big hole in it and as a result the ESPN's or CBSFootball cable types of the collegiate sports world would be the first to notice said big hole. There would be no need for the WAC to get a better TV package than the MWC, right? North Texas would (in deed) have much to bring to the MWC table and would not come into the this league hat in hand. It would be a good deal for both parties "IF".........the MWC decides they want to expand and if they decide they want to expand in the Lone Star State once again. NOTE: I'd love UH and UNT to form a secret alliance known to no one except MWC Commish' Craig Thompson as well as all MWC school presidents and go into the MWC in a Texas Two-Step sort of way. Now that would be the Nirvana of a scenario for many of us connected with the University of North Texas community, but we learned long ago not to hold our breath on such things happening over night for us (but over night would be most welcome in this case). GMG!

Summarize? (I get subtle hints from time to time on this forum as why UNT is about 25 or more years behind the 2 schools we'd like to think we are "right there along with em'" and that being UH and Texas Tech). Our new stadium pretty well fits in that same timeline as far as when it probably should have been built, too & at a much lesser cost to boot). Does that need to be summarized, too? Just askin'

I guess the question still remains "why would SMU support La Tech?" What's the real hook there? (I think most know the answer to that one). I know the Stangers would deny its not about us at all, but who around these parts would ever believe that, too--media included? Heck, a school with Death Penalty in their own resume' has pretty well honed the skills of lying and deceit as it is already and it just seems to be part of their general make-up and legacy. I can show SMU 3 SBC schools besides La Tech who would make better fits as it is and we are not even part of those 3, but UNT would still be the better choice beyond the 3 I have in mind with our upside in "easy access" location, Mean Green Village facilities & still our expected burgeoning growth--but since when did conferences powers that be start using what makes the most sense (cents) as a criteria anyhow? Whatever happens will not be a surprise for many of us who have seen everything at UNT and in Denton execpt child birth (to quote the late, great Bill Blakely). UNT has a gol' darn bright future no matter what happens this re-alignment go around and I assure you, there will be other "re-alignment go arounds" in the future. UNT still needs to simply use the Boise model and just build it from the ground floor and let it be us who are the new perennial Top 25 fixtures in the future. We have all the pieces of the puzzle now in place with the debut of our new football stadium this Fall for that to become reality. GMG!

And from the above link this most true theory from a Vol's fan responding to another Vol fans post as they discuss our guy Power (and I enlarged the letters of the part I liked best: SanFranVol97 writes: in response to thevoice: Because no modern-day Division 1 program consistently wins football games with 2star players. Not true. Name a 4* or 5* recruit on the Utah team that undressed Alabama in the sugar bowl. Boise State is also not getting 4* and 5* players. Those ratings are wacked anyways. Get good players that FIT the system and have them play as a TEAM. GMG! PS: I would have added a couple more words to the last sentence and they would be "get good players with speed..." GMG ! !

All our UNT leaders have to say to Benson is: "Do not call again." (Pretty plain and simple it seems to me). GMG!

We would only wish you were the most honorable Mountain West Conference Commissioner, one Mr. Craig Thompson. Whoever you are and at any rate, you are preaching to a pretty sizeable choir. Now go over to the MWC board and try to win some converts for our cause! GMG!

We'll take our chances! TXST_CAT, I like your persistence, though. Seriously, even as a SBC school we still have the best destination bowl for our champion with the New Orleans Bowl and the 'Belt had 3 teams in bowls this year. The SBC is no Big 12 but does meet our purposes for now. When we were winning, we had superb TV coverage here in the North Texas Metroplex which is knocking at the door of 7,000,0000 population--a larger population center than several of the western WAC states added together. Teams in the SBC who are in their losing cycle don't get much TV coverage but that is why we made a coaching change. Surely you would understand our want to go up the NCAA conference ladder than merely just making what most would see as a lateral move or even a step down sort of move? If UNT goes west, many of us would prefer the MWC and albeit that is a crap shoot at the moment, we don't rule out other things for our future conference-wise, too. UNT was where you guys are now going on 40 years ago and we just don't want to start all over (and many think the present WAC make-up would do just that). Our new stadium even has some of our collegiate neighbors making some well placed barbs at us which means they have more than just noticed what we have going on in Mean Green Country and at the Mean Green "olympic style" Village. Funny how Fouts Field never seemed to make any of those schools ever feel we would ever be a threat to their domain, but as Dylan wrote the times they are a-changin'. There are some schools in CUSA and MWC who would be happy to have a combination of our (finished) football stadium and a basketball venue like the fabulous 10,000+ seats Super Pit on their campuses as their "1-2" punch major athletic facilities (and especially with all that "ready to build even more venues" real estate surrounding all our existing ones in the Mean Green Village). I digress but that is only by habit. GMG!