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Pat Boone, creating a Milli Vanillie lip sync scandal at Apogee Stadium? Oh Conservative milk drinking Pat, some of us will forgive you and some of us won't! It's just what we do at North Texas. Personally, I think Boone "live" or lip synced superbly knocked the Star Spangled Banner out of the park last night for a 77 year old crooner. I was shocked with his vocal quality and vocal range at his age, too My favorite Pat Boone song has most always been Moody River which I love to sing at a karaoke bar. Read where all 4 of his daughters were born at Denton's Flow Hospital back in the day. My late mother loved Pat Boone so with that alone Boone has sainthood status with me. GMG!.

Once Coach McCarney & Staff get some more talent with the talent we have, North Texas is going to be an athletic program that will be able to rise up the NCAA athletic totem pole. We now have our vehicle that will help all that we all want to finally have a real chance of happening. Norm Hitzghes of KTCK "The Ticket" said this the week we hired Coach McCarney: "Why not North Texas being the next Boise State?" GMG!

Thanks UHCoog98: Another fellow NT alum and I walked about 1/8'th of a mile from the Super Pit area to Apogee with the head honcho of what I believe you call your athletic fundraising arm, ie, the "H Association" (or something to that effect). He really didn't know where to go so we introduced ourselves & told him to come wiith us and we would show him the way. En route, we had a nostalgic discussion about UH past greatsBo Burris (from my home county & Freeport) as well as Warren McVae, Kenny Hebert, Paul Gipson, Elvin Hayes, etc, etc, etc, Of course, he knew all of them well since they are part of his group. I told him I grew up down on the Coast and was a former Coog fan (even over the Longhorns & Aggies) during my youth. He was blown away by what he saw when we arrived at The Hill looking down into Apogee Stadium. We parted ways and wished each other a good season for our respective teams. He was a very nice man to a couple of strangers wearing Mean Green. And we do wish for he Coog's a great BCS bowl buster kind of season! (and yes, we'd love to help yall open your new stadium once started and completed)! {:>) Attendance? A moot point now but I saw NT students coming in large numbers who seemed to not get stamped or bar coded and it seems that much of the game there had to be well over a thousand students standing on the concourse and/or were under the Wing Section "shaded" concessions area milling around watching the game on the flat screens. I felt if they had gone to that small vacant seats spot in south upper deck student section, they would have filled it easily. No, I didn't take the SMU Stadium Attendance Counter Course 101, but I think there were closer to 30,000 & some change inside our stadium at one point. Not having a winning season in awhile affects most programs at our level very much so last night's attendance was a moral victory in many ways. My old ex NT room mate as well as long time friend (I sang at his wedding); anyhow, we loved sitting in the Wing Section and said that he even preferred it over the 50 yard line area he used to sit at Fouts & that because the lines of sight at Apogee are great (even in the end zone) and......you could watch all the plays as they developed. Like many of you newbies and those of us who have been around a few decades, there was a point during all the festivities that I got a bit choked up & teary eye'd, but I wouldn't trade any of my 38 year North Texas experience for what I witnessed on Saturday evening, September 10, 2011, at the University of North Texas new Taj Majal'esque football palace...Apogee Stadium. GMG! PS: Can you imagine how great all this will be when Coach McCarney puts a great football team inside Apogee Stadium?

Although there is a chance we might see Coach Fry at our new Apogee Stadium tonight; nevertheless, good luck against the Hawkeyes.

NORTH! PS: See many of you in a few hours!

And once we start winning and beating some name schools the expansion of Apogee Stadium will be sooner than later. GMG!

http://experiencethenewmeangreen.com/ Maybe this link will work, Rick. GMG!

We can't if the stadium is not "officially" sold out when we have those who say it is. If the UNT athletic dept. says its sold out then....it's sold out. I got 2 tickets from TicketMaster less than 2 hours ago so it was not sold out then. Just sayin'...

There are still tickets available thru TicketMaster where you can get your tickets emailed to you within 20 minutes of purchase and then you can print them for those who have never used TM. I think there will be some walk up day of game tickets available according to one I spoke to at UNT, but TicketMaster and their small service fee would probably be a better gamble than waiting tomorrow. I have no idea what time the Apogee Stadium Ticket Office opens on Game Day for those who live in or near Denton and may want to get to that location when it opens. Win or lose...the Grand Opening of this stadium will be fun for all ages. I know many of us are looking as forward to seeing how great the accoustics will be almost as much as anything else. GMG! UNT/TicketMaster: 1 (800) UNT-2366

Post 11,000 and I fully agree... What all this says to me is that we have 1 year to celebrate our new stadium but that we best keep an aggressive modus operendi in Denton because we of all schools should know that if we are sitting still with whatever we think our accomplisments to be at whatever level we did them, there are now other schools who would love to show ol' North Texas that they can do it better and much quicker. On the other side of the coin of all this, I welcome UTSA and SWT aka TSU-SM to the Texas-based FBS collection of schools as I think their presence will keep us from going into our usual 15-25 year deep sleep along with our old 3 giant steps forward/4 backwards routine. As we are getting our butts kicked by FIU as I post, I still think North Texas can & will bring much to someone's table in due time. No matter what UTSA draws this year, next year or next decade they still cannot match our major colllege football past legacy of the Abner Haynes Sun Bowl team of the 1950's; the Mean Joe Greene Era of the 1960's when we arguably had one of the 10 best football teams in 1968 when an SWC referee stole a game from us at Arkansas who "only" played "the" UT in the Game of the Century that same season for a national championship; then the Hayden Fry Era of the 1970's which included key wins over Tennessee, Houston, etc, etc, etc, then after that era the beginnings of a roller coaster ride which leads us to tonight's game in Miami but now we have a major difference and Game Changer from here on out and it's called......Apogee Stadium. We can pick up where we left off many years ago now and that is the good news. Folks, we knew this was going to be a rebuilding year and I think Coach Mac was sorta' trying to mentally prepare us for that with some of his past comments last Spring & this Summer, but if he would have had the talent to start all this out like a ball of fire most likely we would have never made any changes and Coach Mac would probably still be at the University of Florida. We have an upwardly bound keeper with Coach Mac I think most would agree. (Damn all that Spring & Summer green kool-ade we all tend to drink). This year we will get to see a whole bunch of freshmen & sophmores start our rise to what I think will be success at a much higher stratusphere than we will have seen in a very long time in Mean Green Country. IMO, Coach Mac is not going to be happy until he has a ranked football program out at the Mean Green Village.

http://www.kens5.com...-128020498.html Maybe the Big 12 should ask the RoadRunners to take TAMU's place? (just kiddin') None of the other Texas schools mentioned for the B-12 will draw 50,000 for any home game all season long. In fact, when is the last time TCU drew 50K at ACS? UTSA plus Big Home City plus Big Home Stadium ="s ??????????????? One has to admit that it's a recipe that's worked well for other schools that rose quickly in the NCAA. Uh.....DAMMIT! PS: I still like our entire package better; that is our athletic plant, ie, the Mean Green Village with our new expandable football palace and the fact that we will play all home games on our ever-expanding and burgeoning campus.

Unfortunately, I don't think what we do in one year will be a deal maker for us or any school. When these re-alignment things happen the timing of it is never our ally. Only way for North Texas is if we have friends out there in high NCAA places we are totallly unaware of now. Maybe Dr. Rawlin's connections will help down the line. Our last 25 years without any Top 50 ranked team has just been too unstable. If they go by a school's upside then we have a chance of finding a new conference neighborhood, but I don't think that will be the case, either. We just need Lady Luck to smile on us with this latest round of conferrence re-alignment.

Great job, Vito! Anyone else notice there was no coverage for SMU and TCU in this DRC annual football edition?

4:2 or 4:3 or 4:4 ?

Good post... I stand to be corrected, but I believe our last home game last Fall drew more than bowl bound SMU's. Unless North Texas truly has friends in high NCAA places (conference commissioners other than the SBC and WAC for starters) and I don't think we do with present crowd unless it's our oft' used consultant Chuck Neinas and/or through our Denton campus president; but IMO our going in as a "project" might be tough. Most leagues want a school that either has a great legacy or has been on the winning side for awhile. I believe SMU coat-tailed into CUSA with the other schools they came in with. Their losing 2 1/2 decades makes what we are going through look like a Sunday School picnic.. Yet SMU's Doak Walker and Jerry Levias eras gave them tradition (and much admiration outside Texas) of which they gotten much milage. Having been in a major conference for many decades also helped SMU with the CUSA folks. Like most of you, I believe our upside quadruples that of SMU's, but we don't have the friends that their being in the SWC almost a century gave them and they seem to still veto any mention of North Texas any time the subject may come up. As I look back to when UH was admitted to the Southwest Conference, they had had several bowls on their resume (albeit multi-appearances with the home town Bluebonnet Bowl it seems) and that during an era where there were dramatically fewer bowls than now; UH had some Top 20 ranked teams and a basketball program whose game with UCLA in the Astrodome caused NBC sports broadcaster Dick Enberg to say this about that game.........."UH-UCLA was the launching pad that sent the popularity of college basketball into its current stratospheric dimensions. It was the true beginning of the successful marriage of television and the college game." IMO, we will need one helluva' smile form Lady Luck to change our athletic neighorhood although our very impressive Mean Green Village with that shiny new buckle of a football palace could make things happen quicker for us.

Naturally we will jest concerning SMU but at least they are asking around albeit I don't think their Big 12 chances would be that promising. We can only hope our own leaders are continually putting out feelers for other upward bound leagues because the rule of thumb in the NCAA seems to have always been if you're standing still with your athletic program, then you are actually losing ground. If our new most impressive football palace is the end-all and climatic apex of our program, then (athletically) we will sleep another 25 years in Denton and compete in the lower quadrant of our division. Check out our last 25 years for a little history of how quickly it can fly by and how many Top 25-50 schools we beat in that span of time as compared to other schools at or near our level who did pull off some major upsets. Coach Mac given time most of us feel will take us to the next level. I just hope our UNT leadership have the ability and the right contacts to do the same. Just sayin...

Recipient of the Hail Mary Award presented by Roger Stauback post Minnesota Vikings game of 19?? Not sure why its taken so long for Drew to get in the Ring. Pretty good radio guy, too.

Find the perfect eagle logo (Worm or SOW), put it on the helmet and leave it alone for the next 50 years and threaten any new future AD with a good ol' fashioned slobber-knockin' if they or some future new football coach wants to change it for "THEIR" tenure at North Texas.. That goes with the shade of green as well. Words, ie, "North Texas" will never have the right font that will make all the people happy all the time. UT and SMU have done quite well leaving their helmets alone most all my life which will be 61 this November; so have many, many other D1 football programs who didn't change their helmet look with every directional change of the wind or with every new regime (of which we've all seen a few at North Texas).

I'd vote for Bugs Bunny if he ran because at least ol' Bugsy' Boy is a capitalist or his creator was. My support all along of which one or two on this forum would confirm is Herman Cain. He speaks my language and doesn't pussy-foot with the public with what he has to say and that characteristic alone might make him un-electable in today's America who seeem to want more whistles and bells than substance. I especially like Cain's stance on sharia law which will only happen over millions of Americans cold dead corpses. Great Britain curses the day they let one very un-democratic religion come to their nation in droves. If a religion is undemocratic what could possibly be their agenda in wanting to be in a democratic society is my question. Some of you know the answer to that question.

Good to see everything falling in place in Mean Green Country. What next? Indoor practice facillity that a sudden cell burst cannot tear down? Our entire athletic plant with even more real estate for expansion would be the envy of many out there, even among some at the next level I'd wager.

And while those 6 are dreaming about the Big 12 is another golden opportunity for North Texas to tell the Mountain West Conferences Commish Craig Thompson: "We are as good a fit for your league than many of the 6 the Big 12 are supposed to be looking at and we feel like we would bring much to the table in your league." Coach Johnny Jones Mean Green baskeball program is our school's shining star which most of us on this forum believe will be joined by Coach Mac's football program sooner than later. Being in a league that has had any of its members in a BSC bowl once or twice or more is an advancment for North Texas IMO. The MWC Boise State has broken the BCS bowl barrier that some FBS leagues are probably 10 or more years away from breaking. I love CUSA and its proximity but still the SMU problem may always be our albatross, but even a CUSA school may be as far from a BCS bowl invite as any from the Sun Belt because of our own lack of respect from major media sports scribes who make things like Top 25 rankings happen. Our league has not had one inside that lofty group of football schools in our existence albeit I believe Troy U received a handful of votes among many other schools with a few votes one year.

Congrats Jack, and how long of those 80 years has Jessica had to put up with you now? As you will recall what Coach Bill Blakely used to say: "We've seen everything around here 'cept child birth" and personally, I'm hoping to see that at the Grand Opening of a stadium. (uh, just kiddin of course) Not meaning to play Ralph Edwards of the old TV series "This Is Your LIfe" but I remember talking to you when I worked for Great Commonwealth Life Insurance on Viceroy near the RCA building and when you were still with Jimmy Dean. Many of those conversations back in the 70's we spoke of our hopes and dreams for Mean Green football and on September 10'th you, your lovely wife Jessica, myself & the entire Mean Green Nation will see one of those major dreams come true. Jack many on this board & beyond know the great people, NT alums and Mean Green fans who've long passed who won't be at this stadium's debut, but somehow /someway I know we will all hope they will be watching all this from a great vantage point as the Mean Green tee it up against the UH Cougars. Back on point: Happy Birthday, Gray Eagle!

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Very well stated....SMU even with June Jone's bowl teams is still struggling at the turnstiles for a school that would be considered for the Big 12. Lest we forget, what were some of the reasons the SWC disbanded? . North Texas has a chance to make some giant steps forward if we just don't go back to our usual M.O. of retreating and going backwards. That M.O. has worn out so many who used to be familiar faces at home games. Our heads are in the clouds right now with this new stadium, 'twould be nice to keep them there for about a decade or 2 or 3. Everyone who is building a new or refurbished stadium in our state are shooting for 40,000 seats minimum, hope that is not an omen of some kind albeit all we need is a tad over 9,000 more seats and we would be at 40K ourselves. Texas State is talking 34,000 for their next expansion and they sound serious about it. With Coach Fran tootin' their horns they could make that happen and nothing more would they like than to say in San Marcos is they "out-done" North Texas (at least) in stadium seating capacity but this is what its all about in Texas intercollegiate football if we all think back to how silly things got in the Southwest Conference with their own arms race they had going for decades pre-implosion. Before another expansion my bet would be for an indoor multi-use practice facility and jeez, with climate warming (not global warming thank you very much) that would probably need to happen sooner than later. GMG!

The YouTube time lapse is just too cool.