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Some of us would still say turn the Denton Chamber of Commerce loose on this project. The Denton C of C produced more fan turnout for a past Baylor game (which North Texas won) than any other group I can remember having had such success in the almost 40 years I've been observing promotions for Mean Green football. GMG!

I liked it enough, mean green d' to make it my avator (for the moment at least). Found that SOW helmet in a Deep Green post from quite awhile back. "Smitty" was the one who photo-shopped this SOW on the helmet. Looks sharp to me, but like any other idea that comes from GMG.com it will likely not happen. I guess the missing ingrediant in all of this is "Mean Green." Where would it appear or be made known as what we want to be called other than from broadcast booth announcers? IF we get in the Alliance, 2013 would be a good time to change our sports gear, though, but not so radically as to start changing shades of green , icons and logos all over again. GMG!

It's the NCAA so who knows what the hell will happen next, but any league, conference, consortium, alliance or whatever the hell you want to call it that would ignore a huge enrollment public university located in it's largest TV and geographical footprint just might not be a league UNT would want to be part of; that is, if any of its future conference decisions would be even remotely (and most short-sightedly) similar. Fellow alums and Mean Green elect, this is a no-brainer if there ever was one. GMG!

Funny how I was thinking along these very same lines today, wardly, but there were 1 or 2 other school's getting into better conference situations with 1 of those schools having probably the same (or less) W/L athletic history as our school the last 25 years. The University of North Texas will have absolutely nothing to apologize about if we get in this Alliance--in fact, it's about damn time something good happen for our alma mater in all this new conference or re-alignment business with this possible rare smile from Lady Luck. GMG!

I digress but... New stadium + possible new conference that will hardly be the Big 12 (who will keep changing in membership), but will be the best conference our school (if invited) will have been a part of in our entire athletic history. It's already been posted by several others, but our leaders must take on the mindset that just because you open the stadium's gates on Game Day doesn't necessarily mean everyone in our almost 7 million populated area is going to know there will be a game that day at Apogee. Jeez, folks, all we need is 31K out of 7,000,000 who live within an hour of our stadium--why should that be so damn difficult and especially since we get a head start with a student enrollment of over 36,000? What is wrong with this picture? It's the North Texas Metroplex and UNT must promote, promote, promote and promote because as another AD around these parts a few decade ago used to say: "An empty seat cannot buy a hot dog; it cannot buy a t-shirt; it cannot buy a soft drink, etc, etc, etc With our enormous (and still growing) UNT student body who have filled all of our dorms or even those UNT students who reside within blocks of campus, that would probably be the best of all places to begin an all out "every game" promotion blitz. Hire proven athletic event promoters if you have to because (as important as they are) book-keepers and pencil pushers are not going to make happen what we must have happen at the University of North Texas. This could all be very special and exciting if we could just get all egos in check and pistons running in harmony in Mean Green Country. GMG!

I found that eagle helmet in GMG.com archives in a Deep Green post. Smitty was the one who very cleverly placed SOW on the helmet in what I think is a superb placement. Just sayin'. Smitty, you still around? GMG! PS: Hey, it's off season so why not talk helmets? LOL

Yes, it's the Bleacher Report which may sometimes in the next millineum actually say something nice about North Texas, but if you have a few minutes click thru some or all 120 NCAA FBS helmets and read some of their comments (of which I acutally agree with a few). North Texas, Southern Miss Rajun Cajuns and Boise State are the 4 schools with the most letters on their helmets; no other FBS school comes close to those 4. The other 116 NCAA FBS schools use fewer letters, mascots or fewer letters/mascot combos on their helmets which allows those schools to have larger letters since they use, uh, fewer. http://bleacherrepor...ootball-helmets Dallas Morning News sportswriter legend Blackie Sherrod in his famous "Scattershootin' ..." Sunday AM column many times referred to us as "NorTex" in many of his columns thru the decades (and no I don't see that as an abbriviated answer to reducing our letters, either, but that just came to mind). I also remember reading Sherrod's "Scattershootin" column when he once wrote "look for NorTex to be the next school to seek Southwest Conference membership" not long after UH had been admitted, circa 1972. (If Apogee had happened when it should have one can only wonder). GMG!

Which leads to this question: If BSU and SDSU at some point possibly return will SMU and UH want to do the same? The irony of some of these potential scenarios could only be made up in Hollywood. GMG!

We have no idea how any of this is going to play out, but which WAC or SBC schools wouldn't want to be in CUSA or an Alliance? GMG!

Is there any way possible that the WAC survives all this? And if so, with who as their members? The SOW helmet avatar I believe was photo-shopped by Deep Green year or so back on GMG.com and I wish it were our helmet for the next, uh..... (how long has UT had their "horns" icon on their helmets)? Then that's how long. GMG!

I like the band uni at the very top of this thread with "North Texas" spelled out at the top of the uniform, but does the shade of green on those band unis' match the green on our football unis or is that just not the cool thing to do on campus anymore? I wish our football unis had "North Texas" at the top of the jerseys and would still go with SOW on the helmet. A Hint To UNT Branding Decision-Makers: Find something and just leave it alone for the next 20 or so years. We change football uni's almost every time we get a new football coach or AD. We have to stop doing that. They are usually "NOT" graduates of our alma mater and IMO should not be the ones defining who we are. Is it in their job descriptions that they have to come up with designs and logos? Doubtful... Look at al the established NCAA FBS schools who have had the same helmet for decades. We are the only NCAA FBS school with green as our primary school color and who have eagle as a mascot. Put an eagle on the helmet and just let it be. Branding is not rocket science unless you keep changing it dramatically (and not just a mere tweet) to meet the whims of a handful on campus who have this sudden, creative brain fart and then because of that we have to live with what they come up with for what has in the past been way too long. Just sayin'.... GMG! PS: MIght not change anything with the football unis' this year but might do a make-over in 2013 "IF" we happen to be in a new conference. Just sayin' one more time...

I will say this again: "IF" we get in the Alliance, UNT varsity teams across the board will have to immediately get out of their "SBC mindset" because it will be a whole new game with those we would be competing against. The SBC mindset is IMO....compete "only" against SBC schools with no real goal of going much further than that." I believe Johnny Jones "WILL" do what he needs to do to raise our BB program with the Alliance's (much higher than the SBC's) tide, too. Just check out John Wooden's first 14 years at UCLA. Just not as eventful as many would have believed, ya' think? When Wooden recruited Gail Goodrich many years after he had been at UCLA is when "the Wizards of Westwood's famous run would begin. Then Wooden shocked the NCAA basketball world by going into New York City and getting Lew Alcindor. Up until that time, most New York high school basketball phenoms would never leave the New York area to play college basketball. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/10233046

So put a track inside the new baseball stadium? (I'm just kiddin')! Seems we did that before, but the blueprint folks for Fouts forgot that fans would be sitting almost 50 yards from the football field. GMG!

Not too excited about a parking garage being placed at the I-35E picture window of our university where Fouts presently is located, but I guess they have to do what they have to do. Why not the open field space beyond the Warranch Tennis complex for a men's varsity baseball stadium? Seems like there is a whole bunch of real estate in that vicinity of the Mean Green Village to me. Just askin' GMG! PS: UNT should try to keep as much green space around Apogee as it can afford, but if you have to utilize that area so be it. I just don't think we need to over-build in one specific part of the MG Village (like around Apogee Stadium) if there are other options. GMG! !

Who in the wide, wide world of sports started this damn thread anyhow? Oh, wait a minute...

Welcome! Post often and make them looooooong posts. (personal joke to a hardy handful on this board).

Saw this on CUSAbbs plus M & G boards. Memphis Actual 2011 Home Football Attendance Numbers Mississippi State, 26,398 Austin Peay, 9,198 SMU, 9,208 East Carolina, 7,128 UAB, 7,127 Marshall, 3,301 http://www.memphisfl...-than-announced

And Wright Waters told USA they would be the next Boise State. Of course, Wright is from Alabama. Many of us would have been happy for North Texas to just be the North Texas that should have advanced (instead retreated) from the Mean Joe Greene and Fry Eras of which many of our teams from those 2 eras would have been bowl teams had there been as many bowls back then as there are today. I think Boise State during those 2 aforementioned eras at UNT was a truck driving school and a school that has a very poor graduation rate; in fact, it still does. But again...many of us just want North Texas to be..............North Texas when it was on its game because the rest will take care of itself. http://cdltrainingto...ate-university/ http://arbiteronline...lowest-in-west/ GMG!

Thanks for that, GTWT. I know we've all lost our loved furry friends and we know that day will come, but that doesn't make this recent loss any better for myself. Her brother (Pudgy) is lost without her and watching him sit (with sad eyes) on a mound over-looking the 6 acres they used to run but now waiting for her to come home is enough to make you lose it (and I'll tell you I have done that a couple of times). gmg

Didn't see McVea play Texas HS football but did watch him play for UH at numerous games in the Astrodome. He had a real problem holding on to the ball his freshmen year as I recall. The QB for the Coogs during that era was Bo Burris. Bo was from my home county (Brazoria County) and played at Brazosport HS (Freeport, Texas). It was a new stadium, ie, the Astrodome that played a huge part in propelling Bill Yeomans's UH football program to national acclaim. Darn shame we couldn't have built one of our own back then since we know how important stadiums are for the advancement of a school's football program and even conference affiliation. After UH's 7 years in the Astrodome with a winning program UT's Darrell K. Royal pushed for UH's admission into the SWC which they received in 1972 albeit they didnt' begin offical SWC play until 1976. I really do miss the Southwest Conference and really dislike what is happening in the NCAA present day. GMG!.

Will probably have been room for only one immaculate conception, right? (Can I still say that in the USA)? (a conservative behind the wheel) LOL!

DG, were they ever called the Indians? I saw them with my HS football coach & his wife in a Bi-District game over in Clear Lake City near Webster and NASA, circa, 1967?. As said many times ad nausem "he was a man among boys." As you would know Worster was pronounced "woo'ster.' Arkansas versus North Texas, 1968: Can you give us a detailed play by play as to what happened to Shank' and Ramsey on that certain game winning TD pass that was not a certain game winning TD pass? The reactions from our fans and players, etc, etc, etc...? UNT has been on the cusp of winning some pretty big games against ranked schools during the NCAA's modern era, but for whatever reason, we would come up short or just receive some of the worst blatant homer calls that any referee should be ashamed to ever make. GMG!

Reality TV show in the works here? (Bring in those big butt Kardashian sisters for a little spice). GMG!

An Update: I was a very young kid, but the great Ken Hall of Sugarland played a game against my HS alma mater Danbury Panthers at the home football stadium and the family never missed a home game.