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Just......................University of North Texas with an interchangeable "This Is Mean Green Country" in large letters so it can be seen from a distance. Even large bronze letters like at our main entrance sign would look dignified during the day then.....have some kind of lights like we have on the side of Apogee Stadium at night. Logos? Well, remember when the next new regime moves onto campus they will undoubtedly change our eagle logo and shade of green so I wouldn't even go there with this bridge. Commuters are moving too fast to read a moving message sign overhead and that could be as dangerous as text-messaging or punching in numbers on a cell phone as you drive. GMG!

But might the ACLU have something to say about such shenanangannery, Bill? (Of course......I jest). GMG!

W/O a doubt, we do have talent in Mean Green Country--on and off the field! I like this.

All this with All of the content of that article concerning TSU-SM was most predictable. Now they have an idea how UNT felt in the old SBC. Unfortunately for TSU-SM, most of us in the new CUSA need to schedule schools with higher profiles (and Top 25 rankings) for our OOC schedules. I think the Bobcats are going to be all dressed up for the Prom but with no one who'll take them. I do not envy their present situation but as we of the Go5 all know, that can change in a Big East minute. GMG!

Probably the main thing I don't like about the Wing Zone is the erector set look in the back of it which holds it up and that part which so many commuters on I35-E will judge our entire "non erector set" stadium that we really have. Again, this whole expanion thing for the moment is probably #101 on a Priority List of 100 other more important needs for UNT athletics, but the guy who spent some time putting the YouTube together did give us sometihng new to discuss. GMG!

And his 40 yard speed is ? ? ? ? ? As long as Coach Mac and Company recruit big linemen with appropriate size, queet feet, etc, and skill position types plus DB's with 4.4 (or close to it) speeds I don't care how many Rivals stars these kids would have. But as they old saying goes....You cannot coach speed. Having a QB who can be a game changer is not a bad asset to have, either. Boise State (my all time model for UNT) was able to reach the next level because of (mostly) overall good to great team speed. You could see it in their big bowl win over OU several years ago. GMG!

I know some will say......."lets fill Apogee every game for the next 20 years in a row then we can talk expansion which is just how our culture of late has us thinking in Denton.... .............but, I like how the YouTube guy has filled in the Apogee north endzone at 1:51 and IMHO how it should have been built from the git-go (of which some of you have basically said the same thing). Honest to goodness, our powers that be should have ignored HKS Architects "Wing" section idea by saying "great idea, fellas, but we have one that we think is a better." And yes, hindsight is 20/20 in these things, too. Any of you know the person who posted this video? Just curious...Also wonder if there is any other software that would make it look more like the stadium we have with the expansions looking more realistic? Whoever the UNT fan he is most definitely thinking outside the box of which I don't think you can ever have enough of that. I think his north endzone expansion idea at 1:51 would be just fine for North Texas for quite awhile, though. I think it might add another 5K or so fans and would just plain look better cosmetically from the Interstates. too. For now, though, an expasnion is the least of our problems that need to be addressed at this time.

And what has that done for UH who was once in the mighty Southwest Conference only to get jump-kicked out of that league because of those who left and a school that is now treading water (with the rest of the Go5) in a conference which your leaders still have no clue whatsoever what the TV revenues will be after 2013? And after UH has "Big Timed" all the other Big Least members to the point of ad nausem; that is, when UH is no longer good enough for that conference, where the hell do yall go next-- a nice long swim in muddy, murky Buffalo Bayou?

Most of us on this forum actually don't sit around and make up stories about who interviewed or who was interested on our HFC's job; in fact, most all info I've ever received as far as "who did interview" or "who called about our job" came from an athletic department source every time. If i was going to be creative, I'd probably aim higher for new personnel who have the record and the reputation of having had success at an FBS level (and no NCAA probations under their watch as well). I am no longer close to the scene because I choose not to be close to the scene plus my weekend work as a wedding and all events DJ service, too. Still, the older you get, the less important some things in your life actually become. Yet as a UNT grad, I am mostly intrigued (not in the usual way) with this non-stop lack of success or run we've had the last 2 or 3 decades in Denton; that is, how much longer our leaders will continue to botch hirings and to keep giving those botched hires extended contracts. Again, folks, I (and many others on GMG.com) have seen so few winning seasons since we graduated so I guess maybe the truth might just be on our side with this subject? I still keep hoping we will somehow stumble onto some successful hirings and when they leave for Big Time U we still keep that cycle going (a la Boise State) instead of this other quagmire most of us have seen most our adult lives. Sorry, I wish I could be more diplomatic or kiss A$$ about all this, but that is just not what I could ever comfortably do. I am hardly running for mayor of GMG.com. (Harry, is this board incorporated)? GMG!

Huff, lately I've been so close on many things but still so far away. Yet do you recall that game was an ABC TV game because I know one of the NT/Tulsa games during Mean Joe's era was televised on Houston's KTRK Channel 13 affiliate. Tulsa has truly owned us like no other but I would have liked to have seen what a North Texas with one of the best darn NCAA FBS stadiums around and being in the same league with them (again) might have done for our chances. Why Tulsa has not done just a little bit more to achieve being a Top 10 program thru the years is beyond me because it seems they could have easily duplicated what Boise did. My late dad and I sat on the shores of Bastrop Bayou fishing one Saturday listening to Gene Elston call the game when UH beat Tulsa 100 to something. Singer Larry Gatlin (3'rd or 4'th team) even got to play in that game for the Coogs. GMG!

Happy Birtthday Dynamic MG Duo! LJ, are you still IT'n over in Arlington? GMG!

Shhhhhh and not too loud with this...........but the last time North Texas beat Tulsa, circa 1968, I was a senior in high school down in the greater Houston area. The game was actually an ABC-TV regional game which was quite a feat for the Mean Green since the SWC pretty well had a corner of the market with most all regionally televised football games here in the Southwest. GMG!.

So which ones might not be truthful?

AD's know when to schedule North Texas and there was a period of about 30 plus years when none of them would schedule their Southwest area schools to play us. Those schools did beef up their all time North Texas football series "W's" column when they knew we were as harmless as a pussy cat which has been most recently. Would you as an opposing Athletic Director have scheduled UNT when it had Time All American Abner Haynes (the 50's); or the Mean Joe Greene Era (the 60's); and then during the Fry Era which was most of the 70's? Well, you probably would not have and many schools we would have really preferred to have had on our football schedules back then didn't either. They all know who they are, too, and I'd bet some of their school's alums are reading this very thread. . GMG!

We told Dennis Francione "no" twice. The first time was when our powers that be chose Dennis Parker and then the most recent when Coach Mac was hired. I hope we made the right decision and we probably did, but what has gone un-noticed by many of us are the impressive number of 3 star recruits Coach Fran has signed at his present job. I know 3 stars can mean that is the extent of a kids development, but I think most of us would still agree that we'd rather have more of those than the other. Boise State has according to one blog never had a Top 40 or heralded recruiting class ever so I guess we can take some degree of solace with that. Gray Eagle, I actually heard that Jim Harbaugh almost begged for the North Texas job and gave a very enthusiastic interview due to his excitement. Why not? Everyone sees the unlimited potential at UNT, but we've just not done a good job of hiring athletic personnel most all our entire adult lives. That part has got to stop soon and very soon. AND.............Just weeks before Jerry Jones hired Barry Switzer, he even inquired about the North Texas job probably getting tired of sitting on his sofa in Norman. One UNT staffer was said to have commented........."you mean "HE" is intersted in our job?" Folks, North Texas is not a chopped liver type of job if we can just ever cease our cycle of hiring those who fit like a round peg in a square hole. GMG!

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That just about sizes it up. GMG!

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ODU and Charlotte were added to appease (mostly) East Carolina and I'd bet Commish' Banowsky now wishes he could do a re-do with those 2 schools. Neither schools were ready to move up or in one case add football it seems; albeit one of those 2 schools sells about 15,000 football season tickets. I think those are 2 fine schools but they are just not located in what is turning out to be what I think is CUSA's Deep South/Southwest footprint. I'd much rather have ASU, U of Louisiana or WKU and tightened up that Deep South/Southwest CUSA footprint even more. Maybe Commish' Banowsky can talk those 2 schools out of wanting to join CUSA. LOL! GMG!

We can start by hiring UTSA's entire marketing staff and show that school we are not as impotent and backwards thinking athletically as many of their supporters now claim on 1 or 2 other conference forum boards concerning UNT. Yes, hire away their entire staff which have produced results in a very short amount of time and that have put UTSA in the national sports spotlight because of it or...................... we can keep wishin' and hopin' our own will eventually get it figured out sometimes in their next 10 years on the UNT payroll or before Gabriel blows his horn. You hire your success, folks, venues don't do it by themselves; Casepoint: The Super Pit since its opening in 1972 of which its debut evening with Gene Robbins as the (then) UNT basketball coach was a very enjoyable experience for many of us who were there. GMG! A post from the CUSAbbs board: SApuro 2nd String Posts: 316 Joined: May 2012 Reputation: 13 I Root For: UTSA Location: Post: #12 RE: UTSA Realignment Article (01-13-2013 07:01 PM)next04 Wrote: (01-13-2013 12:33 PM)SApuro Wrote: I love our AD but she pissed me off with these comments. She needs to be working the phones and putting us in a conference with the tallest midgets. Nothing sexy about future add WKU. Just my opinion. And what exactly is sexy about UTSA? Try accomplishing something before you bash others Nothing against WKU but I have zero interest in playing them. I don't think they add a viable TV market or have high academic standards or a rabid fan base. They do however have a fairly decent athletic program but since when does that matter. I don't want UTSA to turn into a UNT. Satisfied being in a sunbelt (bottom tier) type conference. I prefer us to model after USF.

I believe it was actually at last year's SBC basketball tourney that one of the SBC Conference powers that be wives was going around telling all within earshot that: "North Texas is gone...they are definitely going to CUSA." A friend of mine at that tourney was within earshot of those remarks, so why should UNT make any motion knowing it was not going to be around in the very near future? GMG!

Fair enough, Jack.... I have known SMU grads thru the decades, even hired a few when I was in the tech school recruiting (and hiring authority) business for about 2 1/2 decades. Those SMU'ers were almost to the person fun to kid around with and we were all good natured toward each other (I mean we are not talking the Taliban wears red, blue and sings V-A-R-S-I-T-Y in arabic here); Even at the business water cooler symposiums (so to speak) they knew how I felt about their elite crowd but they also knew that that would not affect my attitude with them or their job performance in a boor'ish bullying sort of way. I found this group of SMU alums fun to joust about and they knew my feelings about what is still many of our personal toy departments of life to just not be taken as serious as I know I can make it sound on college message boards (which I even admit can get almost silly on my behalf at times). Even part of all that from me is "lets give the poor little rich kid a little of his own medicine" while knowing in my heart of hearts (and from real life experience) that not all SMU'ers are that way. You Nailed It.............It's just that it is those very, very few elite on the Hilltop you speak of, Jack, who seem to have made the athletic part (or the toy dept. of life) of quite an already huge DFW Metroplex army of UNT'ers quite frustrating; especially when one observes that other public universities among our Gang of 5 and even at our level who seem to receive respect from the SMU Elite because I presume its that their campuses are not less than 45 minutes from SMU's with system campuses in almost every direction of the school on Mockingbird Lane. It does seem in the past when North Texas really had that special and most unique time in our athletic history when we could have advanced (and possibly for good) past SMU, we would invariably go back to dormant stage and slide back into the cocoon. Jack, you are and have always been a great (and most patient) alum and I wish you all the greatest of health you deserve--wish the same for your lovely wife Jessica, too. (I have a most valued pic of you, John (where is he today) Reeder, John McDowell and myself at at UNT Homecoming in the early 80's among my collection). It's quite the classic keepsake. GMG!.

Turner said: "But I think as this greater sense of stability emerges, the networks are much more willing to talk and are calling rather than just receiving calls. I think thats a big change" Let those TV conference advertisers come to the first SMU-UCONN B.E. "classic" at Ford Stadium and see how much that will make them want to dig much deeper in their pockets for a real nice TV package. SMU officials could tell them all 32,000 fans (actually 5K reported as 32K) were actually behind the dark tinted windows and inside Ford's luxury suites and they just wanted to impress the TV execs with how purdy' all those red and blue seats were without butts in seats blocking their view. JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF THAT PERUNA! GMG!

His grandfather, John David Crow, former Aggie great and Heisman Trophy winner; anyway, Coach Crow once brought his NE Louisiana (now ULM) Indians to Fouts Field to play UNT.