PlummMeanGreen

Thing about it is that you have to ask those schools for a game to first get a yes or no. As I look at our history of schools that have come to Denton I don't concur with all of your theory. Also, UNT's program does not live or die on getting other Texas-based schools to Apogee; after all, we've also had Oregon State, Florida State, Navy, Indiana, Houston, Kansas State, San Diego State (last ranked team to play in Denton) and others similar who have said "yes" to come to our place with many of those schools that actually have higher profiles than 2'nd division Big 12 Texas-based schools. Don't we have a 12 game home and home with SMU beginning next year, too? GMG!

Stan R's avatar logo on page 1 of this thread you can tell that the N is actually on top the T; others not so much. Of course, how it looks from a distance is another thing, too. I still like the worm or SOW and maybe even incorporate Stan R's "N on top of T" avatar on a helmet somewhere. Any of you graphic artist have any creative visuals for us to look at with that kind of helmet? GMG!.

Idaho will have a good football program in a year or 2. Their HFC sounds like a winner and a real disciplinarian. Heck, he had his team running short wind sprints right before the 2'nd half kick-off. Their QB was very impressive for a freshmen. The Vandals have something to look forward to for sure. GMG!

Yall going to have some carb-free beer, too? Sounds like a good time. GMG!

This is just a terrible story--absolutely terrible. Prayers to this young man's family, friends, Denton Guyer High School, the coaches and his teammates. Death can be such a life-changer for those left behind. We are losing this generation, folks, and its every race and creed. Parents have got to start parenting and getting their kids off the streets and just monitor their social schedules as to "where you going"; "when you going to be home"; and "who you going to be with." This story just got to me.

UNT had "the Hardline" guys out in 1994 inside the "Eagle-Dome" (a huge almost 50 yard long carnival tent) when we were in the midst of regaining our NCAA D1-A status and when 1310 "The Ticket" (in its first year of operations) carried all our football and basketball games that year. UNT had such success with them that year with audience response that the widdle' rich kid down the block got all huffy puffy and put out some of "daddy's" big bucks for KTCK to carry their games from then on. Not sure if this money would be well spent, though. Why not spend those same thousands on buying Family Plan tickets for the Wing Zone and then give those out to the less fortunate out there that might not other-wise come to a Mean Green football game at fabulous Apogee Stadium. North Texas in the worst way really needs to work on more Denton County families to fill our Wing Zone. If we can get the kids to Apogee, then we can get mommy and daddy to come along with them most times, too, one would think. How would last night's crowd have looked had the Wing' been 1/2/ to 3/4'ths full or just plain full? Is it time for Band Day threads and posts again? LOL! (Don't worry, Band Day talk will not come from my keyboard any longer). GMG!

I have hopes for our OOC season for 1 or 2 more wins, but I mostly want to see all our newbies, ie, FBS transfers, RS frosh and a few true frosh develop during this stage of the season and get ready for the CUSA conference slate. That is my perspective on this particular 2013 OOC football part of the season. GMG! PS: And at which point did having new rivals become a problem? Don't we stand to gain from such, especially at the Apogee Stadium turnstiles and gate receipts? Poor ol' TSU-Aquarena Springs can't even get on UTSA's schedule anymore. PS2: And after last night, didn't Berglund go up one on the QB depth chart; that is, to #3? I assure you all, we cannot have enough QB's at the FBS level. I am as much a fan of Brock Berglund as I've been of DT/7 all this time, too--but that's just me.

I like the fact that Silver Eagle didn't pull one of his (now) famous "Fouts Field'esque" in the stands wrestling moves, "the claw" or even a head lock on me when I asked him: "Is it true, Bill, that you just joined the Tea Party?" GMG!

Guess the heat had me seeing double, but if Apogee holds 31,000 I still thought there were about 21-22K in attendance. I tell you without a breeze it was mighty hot even in our shaded west side of Apogee but thankfully, we had a breeze most of the evening albeit a warm one. How many fans stay in the club suites level, never taking their nice seats and drink all night long and then............. how many students were still outside Apogee doing a bit of their own imbibement of the spirits? And drex, I whole-heartedly concur with your above post. LOL! And come on now, you are so much more than just a pretty good fan all the decades I've known you! Still considering 8 "L" seasons in a row, I am more than OK with our fan base which we all know will get so much larger when the winning cycle returns to the Mean Green Village. I repeat; It will get so much larger when the winning cycle returns and the numbers in our UNT constituency insures that will be a reality. As we always said in sales: "It's a numbers game." GMG!

SMU and TCU while in the SWC had to have significant numbers of visiting traveling fans to have anywhere close to decent attendance figures for schools that had been in a major conference all those decades. What attendance we do get at North Texas 99% of the time are mostly all "OUR" fans. Again, had Texas Tech been our opponent last night we would have had 35,000 at Apogee. Amazing how that "traveling fans" formula works, now isn't it? Honestly? After 8 losing seasons in a row, I'll gladly take a 22,000 Mean Green fan base to build onto once the real winning begins. I want to see the day when all 31,000 plus fans at Apogee are all wearing green and we have to tell opponents officials... "sorry, but we don't have enough tickets for your fans" albeit we know by NCAA decree that we are supposed to reserve a certain number of those for visiting schools. I'm beginning to feel about this football program the way I did in 1975 as a UNT student when Hayden Fry and his Mean Green were making some real hay in the NCAA and others in our neighborhood were not (and were just as hesitant to schedule quality Mean Green football teams during that era, too). GMG

DT/#7 ! I will say that I am a DT supporter and have been on record of being that on this forum for quite awhile I figured once he had more receivers (as in more than 1 of quality & experience who got hurt last year) and now this Fall a larger number of quality RB's by committee and seeing that which happened last night could and would happen. DT/#7 is not chopped liver and proved that even against a #15 Kansas State last year for those who still may be unsure about him. He does have to have the right game plan for all this to work for him and nothing suggests to me that that will be a problem, either. Yes, it was idaho and this week its a much tougher Fall 2012 bowl team Ohio U which will be tough to win, especially on the road but................ ........................this Mean Green team has many newbies who need to develop (and that part of watching all this could be the fun part) and all of that group then be ready for CUSA conference play. So many of us are just so darn glad to see the momentum of Mean Green football swinging back in the right direction. It's still early, but I'm amazed with how McCarney and Staff have been able to get so many more real NCAA FBS level players inside the Mean Green Village in so short a time in light of the so very few he inherited post-TD era. It's beginning too look to me that some of his recruiting classes have been under-rated since we are all so "star" crazy with these recruiting servcies. What those "stars" don't indicate is a persons desire to improve their talents at a college level and how much heart said multi-star recruits will have once on campus and at the next level. And after Win #1 ? I feel good.... I knew that I would now.

To all those who buried Derek Thompson this summer I rest my case but I will not say "I told you so" and I will not say he will have such stats every game, either. Idaho was our opponent and they seem to be where we were 2 years ago. Still, he's a 5'th year QB and sometimes in the past having watched NCAA college fooball for about half a century they just seem to have the "a-ha" experience and just put it all together their last year. Also amazing how more Mean Green receivers who can catch the ball and along with a larger committee of RB's who can run the ball plus........a good game plan will (IMHO) make our 5'th year QB more than a formidable force for the 2013 season. The Ohio game will be a tough game, but it will also give us a better focus on this team. I look forward to watching them play Louisville this afternoon on ESPN. (Hey! We will have 1 more day to recoop from our Game Day so that is a good thing)! DT/#7 may not do all what he did last night every game since we don't play Idaho every game, but we have an offense that I believe will be able to keep many of our future much better opponent's offenses off the field. We have to keep in mind, too, that we have many other newbies on this team who will become contributors and hopefully a tad before or right when CUSA conference play begins. . Dajon Willaims, our freshmen QB in his short stint last night showed many of us that he has what some call the intangible "IT" factor working for him. Amazing how so few plays seemed to show, uh, it, too. Our defense is a work in progress and had a very slow start last night, but its easy to see they have potential for marked improvement. We need a DE and a DT to step up and become stars on this Mean Green "D" to support a good supporting cast. I believe our secondary will be fine after first quarter jitters last night. This season has so much more promise to hit .500 and above if the entire team will just keep on improving across the board and my bet says they will. Once again, this Mean Green freshman QB really impressed many of us last night in such a short time on the field.

All of whom I were around tonight were gushing with pride with Derek Thompson's performance! He was absolutely great and anyone notice how effective he is when he has more talent to pass to and hand of to as well? Is alcohol doing most of the talking in this thread or what? DT/#7 was..............supercalifragilisticexpialidocious!

Oh yeah? Well how's bout' this: Ohio U has us all worried down here in the Mean Green Nation. Ohio U's Coach Solich and our Coach McCarney are old Big 10 friends from back in the day and I think even coached together at some point. Ohio U will be a great yet difficult test for the Mean Green and especially being a road game. Yes, we have more good athletes on this Fall's version of the Mean Green, but Ohio U has the same thing working for them, too. GMG!

Yall were still great and very, very noisy!

Student side was about 1,000 to 2,000 shy of what I thought it would be tonight. It was miserably hot in the sun, though. Great job of support by the UNT students who were there tonight and there was a good number of them at Apogee. Lest we forget, we are still a program that has had an 8 season losing streak in a DFW area that has always had the "winners town" mentality and that attitude (along with those 8 losing seasons) has taken its toll, but the good news is this..... we still have about 22,000 from which to build on. (Had the Texas Tech Red Raiders been our opponent tonight we would have had about 34,000 fans at fabulous Apogee Stadium). For what its worth, we have a 1 game winning streak going on so lets keep a perspective on our Idaho win but for certain it was the kind of win we needed to have in a bad way. Ohio U will tell us more about our team and where it needs to further improve. Ours is a work in progress but even more good news for the MG Nation is we have more talent now for there to be further progress. Tonight we saw a 5'th year senior QB take command of his team along with a good game plan and look what it produced? Dajon is a talent to reckon with. Can't you just see how he has that intangible that makes for anywhere from a good to a great college QB? We cannot have enough QB's since they can start going down like flies, though. We have some QB talent on this team. Still....is it this? I think a complete focus on family of 4 sales to put more Denton County families in the Wing Section is where we are missing the boat with our attendance building. It the Wing Section is full of families with their kids we aren't even talking attendance anymore but rather.....when do we start the Apogee expansion. Want to know who a depressed fan base will be this week? Texas State beat Southern Miss tonight. Did McNeese State beat South Florida tonight or did I dream that?

Fact is...the NFL scouts recognized an NFL #1 draft choice talent and it's obvious he used them quite well as a 49'er and then as a Raider at the end of his career. Without naming names, I know of a few old SWC slower than hell white boys in the Texas Sports Hall of Fame who merely had good connections with the Good Ol' Boy network which we all know existed with that crowd. Cedrick Hardman could have run circles around most all of that group. Note: Newbie' GMG.com posters, I am caucasian so I can say what I just said above about the "slower than hell white boys." SUMG just told me that Cedrick Hardman once had 11 sacks in one game against (he thought it was) the U of Louisville (of which North Texas holds the all time W/L football series record versus the 'Cards). GMG! PS: Had no idea about Cedricks' illness or even what it was which only cost him 1 year, but didn't ex NY Giant greatLawrence Taylor also have an illness which didn't keep him out of the NFLHOF; yet it was still his undeniable talents which got him an induction? The San Francisco 49'ers all time sacks record held by Cedrick Hardman stand on their own and speak for themselves plus it seemed important enough to that particular NFL franchise that they kept such stats. Hopefully, the NFL selection committee will duly note such. There is still time for our guy to get into the NFL HOF. Wouldn't it be ironic if Sir Cedrick Hardman got in the NFL's HOF first and would still be in-waiting for a Texas Sports Hall of Fame invite?

We need a ranked CUSA team at all times (especially toward season's end) and this would get it started early on if the Owls get an upset today. Won't we all be glad when its our school, ie, North Texas who gets back in an NCAA Division 1/ FBS level poll once again? GMG!

Yet we had good Game Day coverage with a 4 columns story by the FW Star Telegram and that by special correspondent John Henry. Anyone know John Henry? In fact, might it be said that the FW Star Telegram gave us better Game Day coverage (with a 4 columns long story) than the Denton R/C gave TCU? GMG! We will have good attendance at Apogee Stadium today, but it may not all get there for much of the UNT student section until the sun is close to going down or when shadows are created. Pretty Pleeeezzzzz.....no more 6 PM kicks in August or early September.

The Mean Green Nation pulling for both the Rice Owls and the La Tech Bulldogs! Make it happen, guys! GMG!

Ditto! A great game for both schools. GMG!

Bump... Again, some of Cedrick's friends are in town and maybe online here for the first time? Sometimes, it only takes the right one to get a campaign started to get Cedrick Hardman in the above 2 mentioned HOF's that he should (quite frankly) already be in. GMG! If anyone sees Abner Haynes and if he has a minute tell him "ol' Jim Plummer" in Section 208, Seat 'twenty somethin'' would dearly love to see and talk to him once again on this side of the River. After all, I've noticed none of us are getting any younger.

Check with greenjoe?

DG, I think I saw some of em' watching one of our games from their screened in front porches with their binoculars! (I jest) We do have to be good neighbors with our neighbors, though; I suppose. GMG! PS: Might it be an easy prediction that one day North Texas will buy most or all the homes off Bonnie Brae, though?

Absolutely... The NFL may not have been keeping records on sacks back in that era, but the 49'ers sure were back then and still have former North Texas Mean Green great Cedrick Hardman as their all time sacks leader. . Someone has dropped the ball big time on not campaigning for Cedrick Hardman's inclusion in both the Texas Sports Hall of Fame and the NFL Hall of Fame. Like everything else has become today thanks to a certain politically correct group of "would be" do-gooders, OK, I'll moderate myself...no politics.