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Apparently, all hatchets have been buried (not into skulls,either) concerning the above sad chapter at UNT and thus....we now have the Bill Mercer Media Room at Apogee. All's well that ends well? GMG!

So U of Cincinatti with their 500 fans (300 of whom were their marching band) and for a NO's Bowl last decade will have had more fans than UNLV will bring in a 92,000 seat stadium? Words cannot express my feelings for whom we were given as a HOD Bowl opponent. UNT....................25K to 30K City of Dallas......5K UNLV..................Marching Band/Players Parents ________________________ One might start thinking we would have been better served in the perception department to have played Navy over at ACS,ie, a much smaller football venue. Per our Navy game at old Fouts, we know there will be many, many 'Middies in attendance at that game. And with the Middies at ACS then add "only' 25K Mean Green fans and it starts beginning to have that "almost full" look to it. One winning season last 10 years has just not given us much bargaining capital with bowl officials, folks. McCarney will change that soon. Oh well, time to turn our limes into lime-ade, Mean Green Nation! I think we still have a good contingency from North Texas if we can get some over-time help from those whose jobs it is to sell tickets. Maybe the City of Dallas ticket sales and distribution comes thru even more, too? ? Might UNLV losing their president to North Texas have had some adverse effects with some of the Reb fans and alums, too?

HOD Bowl officials taking a G5 school as our opponent did not help our cause or ticket sales (although I think those are going well with 2 weeks to go). Word is they could have picked from Pitt, Syracuse or Boston College since no Big 10 school was left to play in our bowl game. Those 3 hardly Top 10 schools, but far ahead of any MWC school. WTH...I've got a $75 ticket and no one is going to spoil New Years Day for this alum GMG!

Way to go, UNT 90 Grad!

The great "NT80" ! ! ! Enjoyed sitting by you and Bear Bryant, III, at a recent game! As always, we had fun! GMG!

I was one of the 12, Jack. Not "Disciples" but Mean Green fans who saw T.G. Sheppard, Kitty Wells, Carl Perkins (who wrote "Blue Suede Shoes" a very bad comedian named Elmer Phud-pucker (truly was his name) and his humor was very blue. Will never forget the expression T.G. Sheppard had on his face when he came out on stage seeing so few fans. T.G. even had a big hit at the time called "Party Time." I swore after that last Cotton Bowl game in 1981 that I'd never go back to Fair Park but guess I lied because I (along with a cast of tens of thousands) will be there supporting the Mean Green of North Texas on New Years Day! GMG!

Brief mention of the "Dallas Bowl" as Mickey Spagnola called it. Any mention is better than no mention? Very nice things Joe said about Apogee like "it's small at 31,000 but it has the ammenities of a much larger stadium." Good show and Joe obviously very proud of his school.

This info came from a non-UNT alum so I'm going to check it out

pastorgrant, now that gives all the various groups (including City of Dallas, UNVL, more UNT student sales, walk up sales) a very nice base on which to build. Call me crazy but I think the overall attendance will be fine even though we didn't get a Big 10 or P5 opponent. GMG! PS: Ran into a Green Brigade flag corp member at the Hudson Oaks Walmart last night. She was with her father doing some Christmas shopping. They saw my Mean Green shirt, we started talking and this from her dad: "My wife and I are going to bring 6 friends of ours to the HOD Bowl game." (Then he added it will be the first Mean Green football game for 5 of those 6).

Some of us have been hearing that for 50 plus years that which I have in bold letters. It would be an uphill battle (as it has been) if you saw what most of us older alums have seen much of our adult lives BUT........... ......few of you were around in 1994 when we helped launch 1310 'The Ticket' since they carried our football and baskeball that first year. ......few of you were around in 1994 when we drew almost 20K a home game (like we are 20 years later) albeit with a much larger constituency today and North Texas won that season with Matt Simon as our HFC. We were "The Talk" of The Ticket with post game call-in shows--it was uncanny to the extent that it also caught SMU's attention who would outbid us the next 20 or so years for "The Ticket" as their flagship radio station. Formula One: If you draw NCAA FBS level crowds at Apogee and win season after season after season after season, too, there is no way that the the DFW media would ever ignore the Mean Green because................during that same time (in the near future) new DFW media types & faces are going to discover just how large our enrollment and DFW alumnus numbers are and how that could help them toward getting nice quarterly ratings books as in.................Nielsen & Arbitron Ratings? It is then that UNT becomes personal for all these low or no information about UNT media types respective professional needs and those sacred ratings--the very thing that keeps them employed or unemployed....... BUT STILL AT NORTH TEXAS............you have to win and beat a Somebody U every once in awhile, too' a la Boise State who Norm Hitzghes back in 2011 said on 1310 The Ticket (as I listened to him that one day) ; that he did say Boise State was the kind of football program that UNT could very much so emulate and FINALLY.....................we "MUST" draw better at Apogee Stadium--nothing below 25K per home game averages for starters and that hopefully very soon. All of this would not be ignored by the DFW media.....I assure you it won't. We should know what they will ignore, though because wouldn't we all be experts with that subject? GMG!

Well, such numbers would be so "un-UH" from the program I've observed most all my life. And.....................where did all those UH fans which such an apparent fan base as that disappear to last Halloween Night when we had more fans show at Apogee than good ol' Coog' High had at their venue the very same night? Then to go from your 25K to "maybe" 35K sort of tells the "Show Me" part which would question such a differential of accuracy---like in 10,000 fans? So what the hell..... I'll just go with your 25K until I can communicate with a UH friend over on CoogFans who would know and not BS me with how many they really had. (Sort of a boring news day some might say)? LOL! __________________________________ If ...North Texas had had the HOD Bowl's actual contracted Big 10 opponent which some have said would mean a minimum 10K to 15K traveling fans from one of their schools; and if North Texas added "ONLY" 8K to the 17K we traveled to a weeknight bowl game last decade 8-10 hours away from DFW (sorry 'bout that, meangreener).................then doing the math here's what could have been at the turnstiles this 1/1/2014 (minimum) UNT.......................................................................................................25,000 (minimum versus Big 10 foe) A Big 10 opponent as it should have been per the HOD agreement....15,000 (minimum Big 10 fans) Total......................................................................................................40,000 (minimum) I know--this discussion is just a tad more than a bit silly but.... "if if's and buts were....." .................but North Texas just got plain screwed with who our opponent will be on New Years Day and it seems we are now expected to all but make up the difference for what a Big 10 school would have traveled to Dallas? "1" winning season in a decade does not give us much bargaining capital for now, but give Coach Mac 4 or 5 winning seasons in a row and lets then tell some of these bowls who we want to play....starting with what said bowls have contracted for CUSA opponents in the first place. (No Big 10 schools available)? Then why the hell didn't HOD jump on one of these 3 schools who 10 days before we were invited were said to be highly interested in coming to Big D such as..........Boston College, Syracuse or Pitt?

You can't have your cake and eat it, too, Coogy' Boy. 1,300 tickets is 1,300 tickets, especially for an aspiring SEC program? (yuk! yuk!) You seem to have been very quiet of late, though, and that strange silence since we started winning and looking damn good (and loud) on national TV on a Halloween Night when our attendance was better than your school's attendance on the same night. SEC........really? AND................UNT never had any time as a member of the SWC to have built a fan base tied to local and regional rivalries as UH did, either. After 1 winning season in a decade.....we are on track.to move upward and forward. (Come on now, did yall really need a 40,000 seat stadium to play Rutgers and some of those other AAAAAAC Anonymous schools)? Would UH fans have spent $75 per ticket to go watch (lets say) a Colorado State from the MWC at any HOD Bowl game? The answer to that is no........... I know Coog fans; hell, grew up a Coog fan and didn't stop observing their program when I transferred from Alvin JUCO to UNT, either. In fact, I followed UH when Bo Burris of Brazosport HS (Freeport) and from my home county was the Coog QB before UH could even spell the word......... "B O W L". I know both school's history pretty damn well matter a fact, so you can't slide anything past me on anything that UH does. Get along back to your erector set (still way too many visible steele beams for my good and funky lookin') Apogee Wanna' Be Stadium. Funny you still want to come over here and be a non-stop squatter on Mean Green Land. You UNT haters seem to have an obsession with our school. Wonder what Dr. Phil would have to say about all of your group's compulsive obsession? Or better yet.....Dr. Ruth, perhaps. _____________________________________________ North Texas Mean Green Fans, Students and Alums: A UH Cougar Fan (and others) Says We Won't Have 25,000 At Our Bowl Game? Are We Going To Prove Our UNT-Hater Critics Wrong? Call This # To Buy Your HOD Bowl Tickets: (940) 565-2527 (If you don't...............we won't)!

Pope Brown was excommunicated, Phil?

Knowing UH's football history for most my life, I still refuse to believe they would have had more than 25,000 fans even at that game though.

And w/o our having a Big 10 opponent the ticket prices for the upcoming HOD Bowl game should have been seriously adjusted downward. $75 tickets should have been $50 and then our alums who helped the students turning $75 dollars into $25 could have gotten a break on how much they had to pay to lower those. And 10 days before HOD announced their teams Boston College, Pitt and Syracuse were said to be very interested? Who are the Big D power-brokers who created 2 G5's opponents in a 92,000 seat stadium anyhow? Did they not think we were worthy of a P5 opponent? I don't get any of this and I will refuse to go into "they're pickin' on our school because of who they gave us to play & still expect P5-type ticket sales, too" ..............but I won't.

Only 10K showing would get nasty and someone's head would soon be on the chopping block (or should be). A new UNT president-in-waiting will be watching and astutely observing butts in seats since he will be at this game to see first-hand. I'm glad our incoming UNT prez' will be in attendance and on my saintly mother's last resting place I hope above all hope he sees 30,000 plus Mean Green fans at this bowl game. As of now I just hope we go into warp speed bowl ticket sales mode the next 2 weeks and hope on Game Day thousands buy tickets at the Cotton Bowl stadium ticket windows. We can still all hope. I'm like you UNT90 inasmuch that I'm going to have a good time at this bowl game no matter how many we have show. Like many of you, I'll be among friends who I've known most my adult life. We've seen it all at UNT except (as Bill Blakely used to say) childbirth (although I fear our BB team did lay a huge egg against Stephen F. Austin State U the other day). Yes, we did get teased a bit about who our "P5" opponent would be and that by the national media--not UNT officials; but it is what it is and we didn't get one. If we shine at the turnstiles w/o a P5 foe in 2 weeks it will say much about what we can do with a P5 foe later. (Say "P5 foe" as fast as you can 10 x's) UNLV gets to play a football program hat has been mired in an NCAA version of a graveyard for about a decade until this Fall and truth be known with foo few winning seasons even prior to those 4 bowl games last decade. It's been a rough patch for all of us who bleed green. Still, this is one helluva' sports story but will only be an even more dramatic one if there is an unbelievable sea of Mean Green at the historic Cotton Bowl on New Years Day. That is the one thing that would make this most diverse board of opinion be on the same page at least until Spring Football practice begins.

Will North Texas Mean Green fans, students and alums out-perform a school or 2 from the AAC in ticket sales? Why not? What a statement it would make for our school and for all the college football world to see on New Years Day from the historic Cotton Bowl Stadium. From the Orlando Sentinel: Some UCF fans are making Fiesta Bowl travel plans, but Knights falling short in ticket sales UCF has sold 5,000 of its 17,500 ticket allotment for the Fiesta Bowl on Jan. 1 against No. 6 Baylor

But, meangreener, all of Harry's newer GMG.com readers don't get it because they haven't read it. This board has up to 900 readers in a 2 hour window of late which I think is remarkable. Interesting Sidenote: A UH Coog source says they have only sold 1,300 total tickets for their bowl game versus Vandy'. Vandy has sold their first allotment of 10,000 and are on their 2'nd. Could be worse, MG Nation, but we must double that "XX,XXX" total we once took down to a certain city in the Deep South for a festive football game on a particular weeknight of which I will not specify which weeknight.

"IF" our UNT students will have purchased close to 10K tickets by this time next week, I'd think that is a pretty good base of tickets sales to begin with. I think many UNT students will be showing up on Game Day to buy tickets since procrastination is what a large sector of our society does best. I am more concerned about what kind of weather we will have than ticket sales. If a school that traveled approx. 17,000 fans to a NO's bowl for a Tuesday night game can't come close to doubling those numbers for a New Years Day game at the historic Cotton Bowl stadium, then our new UNT prez is going to soon after he unpacks his bags in Denton have to have a real, bonafide "Come to Jesus" talk with those whose jobs it is to sell tickets. That responsibility has to fall on someone who gets paid to perform those duties. After all our tallies from "ALL" ticket outlets are in and including day of game walk up ticket sales and the weather is OK, I think we will all be pretty darn proud. Again, I defer to the 2'nd paragraph of this post. This should be a slam dunk, folks.

This is the green we should wear on New Years Day with green being the primary color. I like to wear a long sleeve black sweat shirt from Walmart ($5.99) and wear a green North Texas T-shirt over it.

Someone told me they were going to rope off portions of the 92K seat Cotton Bowl stadium. Which part I have no idea.

Yes indeed, welcome Josh Greer!

It was said to me by a fellow UNT alum from Arlington... "I'm sure the new incoming UNT president will look on with great interest the efforts that were made from our main campus to sell tickets to this bowl game." Nothing like a little extra added motivation from someone who will be at the highest pinnacle of our school's main campus admin bldg. and one who will wield a pretty powerful stick. GMG!

You're not cheap at all. You are a great alum and Mean Green fan! We need every kind of ticket no matter the price to be purchased and create the perfect storm and align all the stars for our Mean Green fans to blow the minds of the HOD Bowl officials and forever remove any doubt about our fan support for a bowl game. Again I repeat....again I repeat.........our UNT fan base took 17K to the Big Easy for a Tuesday night bowl game last decade and that should be a pretty big hint to some as to what we can do on a local bowl basis as far as our support is concerned GMG!.

CMJ or anyone, please clarify to me that these totals do reflect UNT student purchases, right? If we get 12,000 students to the HOD Bowl that to me would probably be close to our all time number of students for a MG football game? Right? I may eat crow but I think we are going to be fine with an impressive sea of green on the UNT side for the HOD bowl game. We still need to sell and buy in very steady numbers from today until New Years Day, though. My usual 1 butt in an Apogee seat will now be among a group of 12 butts in seats. Not one of our group will find any excuse to miss this game, either, since we each are spending $75 a ticket. This group (like I'm sure all of your groups) would pay $150 per ticket to watch this Mean Green football team which lest some may have forgotten...................are a most exciting an interesting college football team to watch. GMG!