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This thread feels like a Johnny Carson joke that went south but.... ....anyone remember UNT rich and famous alum as well as NFL pioneer (for women) broadcaster Phyllis George's favorite cafe in Denton back in the day? It had the name of 2 guys and was on either Locust or Elm street as I recall. Used to eat there myself. Bing'ed and Google'd it looking for an old photo of that cafe but could not find it. Some of you older alums know which cafe I am talking about here? GMG! GMG!

Great pic of the guys! I also love the partial UNT student section life-size pic in the background, too. Great things will continue to happen in Mean Green Country!

Super UNT alum Charn ???????? from SE Asia purchased 5,000 (or was it) 10,000 season tickets as I recall, so I have no idea how those figured in the equation. I think it really was actually closer to 20K per home game recalling the good fan support AND..............the unbelievable DFW media coverage. Amazing how winning even affects that sorta' thing in this part of Texas. GMG!

1994, 2002 (topped off with a MG bowl win over U of Cincinatti) and our HOD Bowl team of this last Fall are my 3 favorite years watching Mean Green football. (I'm still shaking my head with all the Mean Green fans who very impressively showed up on New Years Day at the Cotton Bowl stadium). 1994 was the only year Mean Green football (and basketball) were on KTCK 1310 "The Ticket." The Mean Green post game show on 1310 AM after each game with Mark "something'tine kept the phone lines lit up, too, as I recall. I hope we can very soon get 1310 AM and 96.7 FM back as our main radio stations because God knows we can deliver more Metroplex listeners since we are this region's largest public/regional university. LIsteners en mass? Isn't that what radio stations still actually want to buy soap (so to speak) from all their sponsors? GMG! __________________________________________________ Wanna' get a real belly laugh? Then read all the sports teams this write-up link says about KTCK 1310 "The Ticket" and see which 2 area schools are glaringly missing on this list and all the others who quite amazingly made their list of schools and teams. (As they say.............you just can't make this kind of stuff up). http://www.onlineradiostations.com/radio-stations/usa/texas/dallas/ktck-1310-sports-radio/details.html

Uhh....................WOW! GMG!

Another question is: How many of our present 2 and 3 stars HS recruits will Coach McCarney and company convert to 4 stars and up NCAA FBS level college football performers? GMG!

Give everyone a raise and some new (and much higher) revenue-producing goals to hit for Fall, 2014, in Mean Green Country. GMG! PS: Congrats to Coach McCarney, his assistant coaches and that great Mean Green football team who helped this program turn the corner in a big way and who'll get recognized tonight at the UNT/MTSU basketball game with a special ceremony and HOD Bowl trophy presentation. GMG!

Well, CRW, I guess that's about it? LOL! If you've got it.....flaunt, uhh,......sell it, folks! HINT: We've got it.

OK, I've got to check this eatery and music venue out at the Denton Courthouse Square area and soon. The LSA Burger Company at 113 West Hickory "On The Square" received a great review in today's Fort Worth Star Telegram's DFW.com entertainment supplement. I cannot recommend this to future UNT recruits until I check it out first myself but.... .......some of you who've already patronized the LSA Burger Company can probably give us an idea of their food and the music entertainment, too. .https://www.facebook.com/LSABurgerCo GMG!

.......if you were a recruit at our campus this weekend---- other than our outstanding coaching staff along with UNT's top shelf facilities, what else about UNT, Denton and Denton County would you want to tell our recruits (if such were allowed by the NCAA) many of whom will sign Letters of Intent next month? Most of us being past citizens of Denton as former UNT students already know much about the campus, the city (night life) and the county that our recruits who'll be in this weekend will not have the time to discover in a 48 hour visit. So what sights, eateries or music venues at UNT, Denton and even Denton County would you recommend to those who sign with us next month? And then..............the subject of the link below will be some very, very nice eye-candy for future UNT recruits, especially with these venues being located near Apogee Stadium once finished. Wonder when they'll have dirt turning ceremonies for this major multi-million dollar project? Wouldn't it have been nice if we could have roomed our potential recruits in this future hotel even this weekend had it already been completed? Great times ahead for all in Mean Green Country! www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Dent...-199063231.html

One fellow alum who attended our women's game at UTA few weeks ago said they put on a good multi-media show, ie, one that is quite entertaining to most of their customers or....their fans. Show business, folks, it's still all about being show business.

Any bets on how many present members of the Sun Belt would still say "yes" to a Conference-USA invite? I would love for C-USA to add the Rajun Cajuns whose alums have said many, many times how they'd love a C-USA membership.

With Dan McCarney we finally went back to the well (or the same formula) that gave us our last coach to leave North Texas above .500 and that coach who DMac emulates to this day; even has that coach's portrait on his office wall over-looking Apogee Stadium. I also continue to know why we've been where we've been most of the last 30 or so years and all you have to do is read posts from some on this forum to understand the mind-set that gave us nothing significant on a national or Top 25 basis during most of us older UNT alum's lives. Collectively, we never asked for better than we were ever getting for starters on that subject. Among bureaucrats if you don't ask for better, you can damn sure be rest assured that you won't get it but rather..............business as usual. This: Why are some trying to retire Coach Mac so quickly? He loves his job and with his synergy and motivation we all need to hope that he wants to do this at least another 7 or so years in Mean Green Country.

Agree,.. Bring him in and sign him up!

At least our powers that be in the "90's(?) didn't blame GHW Bush. (And they were actually still blaming Fry who had only left Denton 12 years earlier for the Big 10)? .......uh, how convenient. According to the U of MIchigan A.D. only 22 FBS schools out of 126 are breaking even or making a profit with their athletic programs. Then the math tells me 104 schools have to come up with funds in other ways whether that be thru creative financing or auxilary funds for their athletic departments to function. I think the Denton coffee club boys down at the courthouse square blamed Fry for many things because he wanted our school to be Big Time and most of that other "clueless about major college athletics" group wanted to stay Small Time. Mostly what Hayden did for UNT with chewing gum, bailing wire and no existing alumnus group or list of names whatsoever was dramatically raise the bar for Mean Green football. In fact, I don't think Dan McCarney would have applied for the North Texas job without the Fry influence because most my adult life and post his Iowa mentor's years in Denton there really hasn't been that much going on that caught the attention of the national media or of a Top 25 ranked program basis but............. ................trying to keep a score card on all the mostly unqualified "hardly blessed with NCAA FBS level talent" employees which we've had go through the revolving doors at UNT has been quite the challenge. I'm still of the mindset that you award employees based on wins, increased ticket sales and impressive annual turnstiles numbers and "NOT" because they've merely been on the payroll for just about forever with results which has no one else knocking the doors down to hire them away from our school. Will be interesting to see what new UNT president Smatresk lays down as goals for our entire university, but specifically what he thinks the annual football ticket sales and marketing goals should be for the department Dr. Alfred Frances Hurley used to call "the picture window of our university." GMG!

Heard over here in the West O' Plex that TCU's Coach Patterson (whose Froggies were bowl'less this season) was flippin' pissed when on New Years Day he turned on his TV and saw about 35,000 Mean Green fans at the HOD Bowl game supporting the team in green as it kicked UNLV's arses. Wasn't that long that TCU was in a conference with UNVL, right? Said it before, but I really believe TCU has bitten off more than it's going to be able to chew most Falls as a member of the Big 12 as long as UT and OU are members (and I'm not sure they will always be in the B12). I can't remember the last time TCU won any conference championship as long as they were in a league with the Texas Longhorns (even back in their SWC days) and I've been following NCAA football since 1961.

Would probably be hard for Coach Canales to leave a program now that he has played a big part of being one of its chief architects. Now another winning season or 2 at UNT will probably change that.

Seems like you all but have to have an advocate to get some of your players in some of these games. Gil Brandt was highly influential with getting players into the Shriner's East/West game back in the day. I have no idea what the CUSA main offices in Irving do with these kind of things. We have at least 3 I can think of who should be in one of these all star games. GMG!

I wouldn't touch this thread's subject with a 10 foot pole. MattMac is controversial because he chooses to be but..............how many in your lifetime has given North Texas athletics $1 million no matter the circumstances? Maybe time to move on from this subject since most likely the only direction it can go henceforth is south? GMG!

SUMG and I both kept up with that year's recruiting haul like most are following this year online. As I recall our 8 (or 9) state top 100 recruits came from a composite of the Houston Chonicle's, Dallas Morning News' and San Antonio's newspaper's respective state top 100 lists. I also believe it was the Jonas Buckles class, too.

BillySee58, I really do enjoy reading your most astute, well thought out (and obviously) well researched posts on our recruits. Keep up the great work! GMG!

I do believe all our football related venues inside the Mean Green Village (including fabulous Apogee Stadium) has allowed North Texas to jettison much from our past that used to hold us back. I think we are further ahead in the recruiting game than we may even realize. Recent NCAA FBS level transfers to North Texas and many of that group with true FBS pedigree also plays a big part in all this, too, even if we didn't get them as true freshmen. Something good along with many positive benefits at North Texas sold that group of transfers and caused them want to transfer to Mean Green Country, right? (Part of that group of transfers and one who will be eligible this Fall is a 4 star recruit from a PAC 12 school). Sig381, as you said, though, another 2 or 3 winning seasons in a row would further help the cause and many of us now see that as being most do-able when we could not feel that way in the past. The UNT coaching staff + top shelf venues have really warp sped us up the food chain IMHO. Also, just look at all the P5 schools we have started competing with for many of our recruits as being a pretty big clue, too. In another area but still relating to this present recruiting season, but those 35,000 traveling Mean Green fans at a bowl game and on New Years Day has also made a huge impression with many Texas HS recruits and I'd bet even a few outside the Lone Star State. We had UNT fans from all over the Lone Star State, the Southwest and across the USA who drove or flew into DFW Airport (or Love Field) who were inside the historic Cotton Bowl stadium to watch their school's football team in this bowl game......many of us are still amazed at what we witnessed that day. Let this really sink in............"35,000" North Texas fans who showed for a bowl game with only 1 winning season out of almost a decade in MG Country. It that isn't a big time indicator or barometer as to the tremendous upside of a Dan McCarney-led North Texas Mean Green football program then I don't know what is. I know others of our fellow D-FW NCAA FBS schools and many beyond more than noticed all this, too. GMG!

You are absolutely right ! None of us know what any of the coaches from any collegiate outpost are saying and that's the way it should be. Most all on these message boards are merely guessing much of the time. It's just the nature of all NCAA FBS level college message forums to do this. Almost like being at a sports bar with a bunch of hot sports opinions being spewed all over the place. Funny story: During one particular recruiting season former OU HFC Barry Switzer told 3 recruits..... "you will be a Heisman Trophy recipient at OU"...... after all 3 had shared each of their recruiting experiences with the main man at OU. Obviously, a recruit needs to go where he feels it's the right fit; that is, the place that fits all his personal criteria and even how it fits his family's situation, too, but that is also an opinion. THIS: North Texas has an obvious need for defensive linemen this recruiting season and that mostly due to several from our 2013 team who will be graduating this May. Seems we also have openings on the 2014 Mean Green 2 deep that clearly indicates a freshman DL would get a whole bunch of playing time during their true freshmen year. So it would most likely be a safe bet to say there won't be any incoming UNT freshmen DL's who would redshirt their 1'st year at North Texas. GMG!