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...with our brandings and logos they'd prefer to have for their UNT caps or headgear.... Yesterday.........I called and spoke with one of the reps at Captivating Headgear, ie, the supplier of college caps at Lids, Walmart, Loves, Academy, etc, and told him I'd been at my local Loves off I-20 and Bankhead Hwy yesterday and could not find and usually can never find a North Texas Mean Green baseball cap or as they call them...headgear. In fact, I told him on the rare occasion that I could find one that I'd have to look underneath all the other caps to find (maybe) "1" UNT cap and it would be a very "plain Jane" version with only SOW on the front (which most outside DFW would mistake for a Philly' Eagle cap if the didn't look on the back to find........... a barely visible 'small letters' 'UNT'........BUT GET THIS.......... ................looking at the Love's colleges headgear selection yesterday I did discover 6 caps from.............UTSA.................... and even a couple from TSU-SM and they all looked damn fine. The headgear from our fellow conference mate had nice large letters "UTSA" on the front coupled with a very nice design as well.. Undoubtedly, all of us who've been to Lids at our local malls know the "UNT" story on that, now don't we; that is, a very, very slim selection of UNT caps with only 1 (maybe 2) different designs....nothing special or to write home about by any means but so plain as to make you not want to purchase it. I've never seen any cap with the words "Mean Green" on them at any of these specialty stores of which Captivating Headgear is the distributor and just why ? ? ? ? (They can't get licensing approval from our campus officials who handle such to have such a cap with "Mean Green" on it, that's why). Moving forward along.....then the Captivating Headgear rep tells me this: "We've spoken on a few occasions to your on-campus group who handles North Texas licensing and they won't release anymore branding designs for your school than the one we have." I responded..................."oh"...... (why not pink letters to represent sarcasm on these posts, right)? The rep from Captivating Headgear (located in OK) went on to tell me how he had been through our campus many times, saw some of our HOD Bowl game on New Years Day and had even toured Apogee Stadium saying "now that is one nice college football stadium yall have built down there." He told me that he had 2 degrees from OU and had been at all the OU/North Texas football games in the past as an OU student and as an alum. I'm sure there has to be some reason those on our campus who are sitting on our college gear licensing choose not to share the UNT or Mean Green brand with so very many others down here in the Southwest but I cannot imagine what that reason would be. It's sorta' like some small town that is setting on a gold mine, the city fathers know it, flaunt it, protect it but they are not about to start digging up the gold to share with anyone else in their town least of all those living beyond it. I know he will be busy his first days at North Texas, but I think it important that our new president Smatresk be made aware of this most important marketing-related subject. Perhaps even when he has his first open forum or "coffee" with UNT students if not before that. He needs to know all that happens with some on our campus who seem to take their positions much too serious (but maybe at the expense of our UNT students and alums at times)? ? ? ? After all, in Washington D.C. don't our politicians on both sides of the aisle call this kind of thing..............transparency? http://www.captivatingheadgear.com/captivatingheadgearcat2012.pdf

So who many 'ships do we have left now?

Just so it ain't crossing over that final, uh, Big River!

Your kind of funny and my kind of funny are most likely very different, Quoner. I actually laugh at some of Norm Hitzghes's attempt at humor. GMG! PS: Thought you had died.

Are we sure we have enough QB's this Spring?

OK....did he get a full 'ship or is he a grayshirt? And how many will bobble the ball and call him...Chaleb Cumley? GMG! Norm Hitzghes'esque dad type non-humor not doing it for some of you today?

Willy also cuts back on a dime. He's more than a keeper! GMG!

Once again....we have many former MG football heros in the NT Athletic Hall of Fame who were preferred walk-on's.

As Bill "Cinderella Man" Murray said below about another sport but for the Mean Green: HE'S IN ON THE LIST & WITH A FULL SCHOLARSHIP!

FFR! Where are ya'? LOL!

Hey FireFightin'Rick! All practices open to the public! Don't fall off the fire truck now, ya' hear?

Decades is right! This program is headed back to Top 25 rankings!

Just how old are you, untbowler? LOL! Of course, I agree with your post 100% ! _____________________________________ Everyone check this link out and "LIKE" all our new recruits with a brief msg, if you can! https://www.facebook.com/MeanGreenSports

As someone posted DFW sports media guy David Moore said on KTCK 1310 "The Ticket" that he really does like our class--even called it under-rated but what's new with that around these parts?

And this list for all to "LIKE" a whole bunch of our future stars: https://www.facebook.com/MeanGreenSports This list of new signees changes frequently so you might want to check back on MeanGreenSports Facebook page when you can and "LIKE" all of this class (since those of us who bleed green do). GMG! For instance, Jalen Montgomery just made this list seconds ago.

Good luck to ya' with this surgery, North Texas Shep. We believe in you, too.

I swear to you all that this is more fun than the Midway at the State Fair of Texas!

I have this vision of many from GMG.com pacing the floor like a soon-to-be or expectant father. Keep those faxes a-comin-, new Mean Green signees! GMG! PS: And David Moore who applauded our class on "The Ticket" must have seen BillySee58's UNT recruit's rankings list?

Again, thanks to you, Harry and the others on GMG.com for all the work yall have done with all this.

I have him listed per your list from last week. Is there another? No biggie'--just askin'

Like any other school, we don't belabor those we missed no matter the hype, but rather praise those who stuck with us. Why dwell on something we can't change anyhow? Even in our disappointment, most all on GMG.com did wish those well who we did miss, though. ___________________________________________________ (This posted on another thread on the Recruiting page but seems relevant for this thread, too). (from BillySee58's research) "We have 9 current commits who are rated 3-stars by at least one of the four major recruiting websites. Our 3-star commits and what services have them rated as a 3-star: Branding Garner (ESPN) Connor Means (ESPN) Andrew Jones (ESPN) Trevor Moore (ESPN) Jalen Adams (ESPN) Willy Ivery (Scout & Rivals) Tee Goree (Scout, Rivals and 247 Caleb Chumley (Rivals, 247 & ESPN) (9) ? (I seemed to have missed one, BillySee58). * Corrected: #9 is 3 star Fonzale Davis As for "almost" 3 star ratings: O'Keeron Rutherford has a grade of a 78 on 247 (80 is a 3 star, 70-79 is a 2 star) Shaq Jackson is a 5.4 on Rivals (need a 5.5 for a 3 star Josh Greer was just rated a 5.4 on Rivals as well Also, a few of our 3-stars are very close to being 3 stars on at least one more website. Fonzale is a 5.4 on Rivals Garner is a 5.4 on Rivals Jalen Adams is a 5.4 on Rivals Andrew Jones is a 78 on 247 Brandon Garner is a 78 on 247 Connor Means is a 78 on 247 Willy Ivery is a 79 on 247 Another reason we shouldn't always put too much stock into stars (I use offer lists and film ahead of stars) is a guy like Chris Miles, the Flower Mound offensive lineman. Look at this offer list: This is easily a 3 star offer list yet he is a 2-star? Very excited to have him and I couldn't care less that he is not a 3 star. Very valuable commit and smart kid who will do well on the field and in the classroom." ________________________________ BillySee58

Seems to me this "local" school ain't doing too bad in the the area of recruiting: (from BillySee58's research last week) "We have 9 current commits who are rated 3-stars by at least one of the four major recruiting websites. Our 3-star commits and what services have them rated as a 3-star: Branding Garner (ESPN) Connor Means (ESPN) Andrew Jones (ESPN) Trevor Moore (ESPN) Jalen Adams (ESPN) Willy Ivery (Scout & Rivals) Tee Goree (Scout, Rivals and 247 Caleb Chumley (Rivals, 247 & ESPN) As for "almost" 3 star ratings: O'Keeron Rutherford has a grade of a 78 on 247 (80 is a 3 star, 70-79 is a 2 star) Shaq Jackson is a 5.4 on Rivals (need a 5.5 for a 3 star Josh Greer was just rated a 5.4 on Rivals as well Also, a few of our 3-stars are very close to being 3 stars on at least one more website. Fonzale is a 5.4 on Rivals Garner is a 5.4 on Rivals Jalen Adams is a 5.4 on Rivals Andrew Jones is a 78 on 247 Brandon Garner is a 78 on 247 Connor Means is a 78 on 247 Willy Ivery is a 79 on 247 Another reason we shouldn't always put too much stock into stars (I use offer lists and film ahead of stars) is a guy like Chris Miles, the Flower Mound offensive lineman. Look at this offer list: This is easily a 3 star offer list yet he is a 2-star? Very excited to have him and I couldn't care less that he is not a 3 star. Very valuable commit and smart kid who will do well on the field and in the classroom." ________________________________ Thanks for your research, BillySee58! GMG! PS: Did I leave a name off the 3-star list because I think you said "9" 3 stars in your original research.

? Has former great North Texas All American Brandon "Booger" Kennedy at 5'9 or 5'10" forever diminished the height factor for future Mean Green defensive linemen? Of course as we all know....Booger was very special no matter his true height. North Texas Mean Green All American Booger Kennedy: http://www.meangreensports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/070304aaa.html Many of our favorite Booger Kennedy moments at our (very loud) former football stadium, ie, Fouts Field. Winning this game got North Texas a ticket to our 2'nd bowl game in a row where the Mean Green would beat the U of Cincinnati Bearcats at the New Orleans Bowl.

Harry, please mention BillySee58's research which said we have almost 8, 9 or is it now 10 (?) 3 star recruits from 4 various recruiting services if you have time. Also, the 2 star recruits who are within a gnat's whisker of being 3 stars, too. Still seems most of our NT Athletic Hall of Fame inductees were 2 stars coming out of high school, right? GMG!