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Thanks, I think. It sounds like a lot of question marks right now. Is there usually a point in camp, say 10 days into it or so, where the players get out of this inconsistency/injured phase and start making continued positive progress daily? Or does the learning and conditioning curve not kick in until OOC games are over?

If NT played the home schedule BU had in the SWC and now has in the Big12 we'd have a newer, larger stadium than BU and out-average Baylor in attendance.

Sad, but true. That's why we need OUT of the SunBelt!

I agree we need as many seats down low in a single level as possible. I also agree I want whatever new stadium we can get ASAP! Nuke Fouts!

Yes, Hype from all the "fake" born-again Whorn fans who have come out of the woodwork like cockroaches. Most have never set foot in uT's stadium. I'm sick of the burnt orange. Saw 'em off!

If Cobbs builds his stock in preseason games, the Pats may be able to shop him for a future trade, knowing they don't need so many backs. The first cuts aren't until Aug. 25.

PC did good tonight. Whatever happens he'll have a great memory of his first NFL game. It was a good game too, as far as preseason games go, lots of offense. And how about that Falcons kicker hitting the long ones? A good night.

80 yards receiving. He led the Pats in receiving for the game.

And he even called us "North Texas", just as it should be!

Excellent catch and run, just like last year!

Maybe I was misread. We have not sold 25,000 tickets to it yet, I don't believe, although it was posted it is a near-sellout. My point was that if we usually sell 5,000 season tickets that by saying it's a near-sellout now that means we have sold close to 25,000 "extra" tickets that are normally available for students, opponents, and mainly walkups. I don't see how they could sell 30,000 tickets already for that game, no way.

duh. And if we start 0-6 watch the attendance drop and the calling for heads to begin, if not before!

I think NMSU going 0-12 and Utah St going 3-9 had something to do with their attendance. An 0-12 UNT may have attendance trouble too; let's hope we don't find out this year.

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LOL!

Thanks for the report. What happened to Phillips?

That is sad about OOC, but I can't say I blame their prediction on anything but past performance. If it happens (again) major changes must be made.

I think we've shown we can take 12-15K to a Bowl. The real issue to them is will the "local" college fan be interested enough to come buy a ticket to see UNT play. That's where our appeal hurts. If we beat some name teams that Houston area fans have heard of (like TCU did last year at OU) and not just the FIUs and Muts of the world, then we'd get more consideration as a draw. That's why OOC games are even more important to a school like us than a conference which has name teams within it. IMHO, If we were to join the WAC, beat Hawaii, Boise, and Fresno plus OOC then we'd be better known. We could wipe out the SBC, as we have, and still get no respect.

I'll believe that when I actually see that. How can they even say that when students have no advanced tickets, just show up with their ID. And that includes over 25,000 tickets which are sold as walkups or non-season tickets. This implies that even before any walkup gameday tickets are sold that all are nearly already presold? NO way.

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This is the email for the writer of the Houston article Joseph Duarte(joseph.duarte@chron.com) , although the real person that needs to answer the question is Jamey Rootes as named in the article: "Our mission for the game is to create an annual celebration of the cultural heritage and football tradition of the Lone Star State," said Jamey Rootes, president of Lone Star Sports & Entertainment, a subsidiary of the Texans." Again, I think the slight only signifies the perception of UNT football and SunBelt Conference football to these folks that we are not on a 1-A level, but still similar to an SFA or Sam Houston. Until we consistantly beat teams from CUSA or the Big12, they will continue to view us as lower-tier.

The previous article I posted was the Dallas Morning News' version, mentioning TCU as also having access. Below is the Houston paper's article and it talks more about the 4-year conference agreements, and TCU playing last year, but does not say about them still having access. The head of that new Bowl group is named and he would have the definitive answer to the question of invitees... ................................................................................................................. Aug. 11, 2006, 12:42AM Game resurfaces as Texas Bowl Reliant event to put a premium on local appeal By JOSEPH DUARTE Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle If name recognition means everything, the city's next foray into the college bowl business won't be hard to remember. Tapping into the state's rich football tradition, the Dec. 28 game to be played at Reliant Stadium will be called the Texas Bowl, organizers announced Thursday. The bowl's logo is a silver belt buckle designed in the shape of a football featuring the words "Texas Bowl" across the middle and a cutout of the state. "Our mission for the game is to create an annual celebration of the cultural heritage and football tradition of the Lone Star State," said Jamey Rootes, president of Lone Star Sports & Entertainment, a subsidiary of the Texans. The Texas Bowl is scheduled for a 7 p.m. kickoff and will be televised by the NFL Network. Under a four-year agreement, the game will feature a team from the Big 12 against representatives from the Big East and Conference USA in alternating years. A presenting sponsor will be named at a later date, Rootes said. The payout per team is expected to be reduced from $1.2 million to about $750,000. Rootes also said the bowl will have a tie-in with a local charity he declined to identify. The Texas Bowl becomes the fifth different named bowl to be played in Houston, following the Oil Bowl (1946-47), Bluebonnet Bowl (1959-87), galleryfurniture.com Bowl (2000-02) and Ev1.net Bowl (2003-05). Rootes said the short-term goal is for the Texas Bowl to establish economic stability, a problem in previous years because of dwindling attendance and debt. Rootes said it will be important for the bowl to have "a local appeal" by getting choices of regional teams from the Big 12 and Conference USA, which will provide teams in 2007 and 2009 if enough qualify to fill the conference's bowl commitments. This year's game tentatively will feature the Big 12's No. 8 team against the No. 4 Big East team, although Rootes said there is some flexibility in the selection order among available regional choices from the Big 12. The postseason college game in Houston has been hurt in recent years by less-than-desirable matchups with no regional appeal. Roughly $1.2 million is still owed the Big 12 and Mountain West for participating last December in TCU's 27-24 victory over Iowa State. "In order for the bowls to continue to survive and thrive, they've got to have exciting matchups, at least on a local interest," Rootes said. If the new name sounds familiar, it's because it's not new. The University Interscholastic League also calls its high school football championships the Texas Bowl. Rootes said an agreement has been reached with Host Communications, which televises the prep title games, for exclusive naming rights. "We've worked through that," Rootes said. "We don't anticipate it being called the Texas Bowl moving forward. ... We do anticipate us being called the Texas Bowl. We've spent a lot of time on this logo." joseph.duarte@chron.com

With the current 30,500 seat Fouts, never. It was said the 1990 SMUt game (20,000 seat pre-endzone seat expansion) was a sellout.

Houston Bowl gets a makeover 03:57 PM CDT on Thursday, August 10, 2006 By KEITH WHITMIRE / The Dallas Morning News Houston's latest bowl game will have a statewide reach with its new name: the Texas Bowl. The bowl's name and logo, in the shape of a western-style belt buckle, were unveiled Thursday. The new bowl, which is part of the entertainment arm of the NFL's Houston Texans, takes the place of the financially-strapped Houston Bowl. "The name 'Texas Bowl' and this mark perfectly communicate our vision for the game," Lone Star Sports and Entertainment president Jamey Rootes said, "which is to create an annual celebration of the culture, heritage and football tradition of the Lone Star State." The Texas Bowl name may be familiar to high school football fans around the state. FSN Southwest has marketed its state championship game broadcasts as the Texas Bowl. An FSN Southwest spokesman said the Texas Bowl brand has been relinquished to the new bowl. "We've worked out that issue," Lone Star event manager David Brady said. "This will be the Texas Bowl." The inaugural Texas Bowl kicks off at 7 p.m. on Dec. 28 at Reliant Stadium. The bowl has agreements to pit a Big 12 team against a team from either Conference USA or the Big East. TCU, which plays in the Mountain West Conference, also has access to the game.

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