Jack, considering you usual positive view on things, I find this (and an earlier post) somewhat distressing.......and so should anyone else who cares about this program. I've just seen North Texas live with, and wear, the apathy badge so long that I hate to see anything that even looks like it. If someone is seriously thinking of withdrawing their physical presence and financial support, then maybe an e-mail campaign would be an alternative. After every game, send an e-mail to the AD, BOR, and "cc" the DRC, DMN, and FWST beat writers. It can basically say that you've (we've) made the decision after many long years as a fan/alumni to not attend North Texas games any longer because.......(list the reasons here). Mention how much you usually spend as a MGC member and how much you usually spend on season tickets. You can finish up by saying that you will be encouraging others to follow your example. Someone will get pretty nervous about this, especially if they know that the beat writers will regulary get the e-mail......and one of them might decide to do an "expose". My main concern lately has been the lack of communication from the athletic dept. We need another "quarterly meeting" so that people can ask hard questions of the AD and Head coach. Instead of those "soft-ball" questions that are usually pitched by (and I have the greatest respect for him otherwise) George Dunham.