SilverEagle

....who states in the final sentence in this morning's summary that Todd Dodge is 0-9 on the road, and that opponents are averaging nearly 7 yards per play against us. Positive enough for you? Here's some facts from a 33+ year fan of North Texas football. We'll get more positive facts in the paper, when we IN FACT start doing more positive things that anyone but us homers can recognize. Vito is NOT the problem.

.......or maybe he's down to four or five synapses that are firing properly. We've already had 7+ years of that already.....with a much younger man.

Well, words are a pretty good start. Especially when the words say that invading Iraq was dumb. I don't know about you, but I don't vote for people to start wars when they can't figure out anything else to do.

NC

Yes, I know that he's a senator, although he's been keeping his distance from that group. Congress has had such a sterling record in the last 8 years, maybe he wants to distance himself from that.....and hope that no one has noticed that he's officially been a part of it. If he did nothing else in the Senate, this speech makes up for it.... Remarks of Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama Against Going to War with Iraq Chicago, IL | October 2, 2002 Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances. The Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union, and drive the scourge of slavery from our soil. I don't oppose all wars. My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain. I don't oppose all wars. After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this administration's pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such tragedy from happening again. I don't oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne. What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income - to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression. That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics. Now let me be clear - I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him. But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the middle east, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let's finish the fight with Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings. You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure that the UN inspectors can do their work, and that we vigorously enforce a non-proliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons in already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe. You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells. You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil, through an energy policy that doesn't simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil. Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair. The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not -- we will not -- travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain. Both reasonable, and prophetic.

NC

Is that an endorsement for Obama?.....

Yes, I knew that Jefferson was an elitist, but considering how smart and talented he was, he kind of had a right to feel that way....certainly moreso than today's political leaders. He was also (like many of our founding fathers) a slave owner, who (sadly) took advantage of some of the slaves. Firemen are not required to join the union (there is strong peer pressure to do so however). But join it or not, you still get the benefits that the Union gets for you. And are Unions more corrupt than those arrogant bastards on wall street that are coming to the tax payers to bail them out? And they would be the same arrogant bastards that have helped errode the Unions, and much of the middle class in America.

Since he didn't elaborate on what he meant by "civil disobedience", and since I'm part of that generation, I'd guess that he meant the same sort of disobedience that was most popular with my generation. Holding protest rallys and/or attempting to block the construction crews with their bodies. And the next time your Union (created by gasp! liberals, not conservatives) supports better pay and benefits for you and your fellow Fire Fighters....you be sure and turn them down. This quote is often attributed to Thomas Jefferson "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism", but sadly no one can find that he said it. He did however, say this.. ]"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?

What for?...being too fat?

Well, at least I didn't get banned......

No word back from development?!?! I'm shocked!

Bump Hmmmm, just the response I expected from the Exes.

I think that a "History" thread permanently pinned at the top would be a great idea. I would add GrayEagleone and Screaming Eagle 66, and GGII to the list of people to make regular contributions.

Even though the Mean Green moniker came into being to describe our nasty defense, there is no reason why it can't apply to offensive players as well.....most notably O-linemen. However, we need to get a bit deeper at the position before we start getting too nasty.

Brad, I'm so sorry for your loss.

This is real progress. In recent history our leading tackler was a DB.

I'm proud of my adopted player.

My thoughts exactly.

My "now that's a good idea" catagory would be the (not so) "special teams". And while I'm on the subject. Since it seem apparent that Daniel Meager is not going to take the field as a QB this year, why not let the third fastest player on the team play special teams. Starting with punt coverage.

Lott has been starting. And wasn't he a transfer and then a walk-on in the spring? Walk-ons seem to be doing better than the high profile signees these days.

Back in 73 and 79 the price of oil went up, plus it was in short supply (which caused rationing etc) because our supply from the middle east was being limited (actually for a while it was shut off) as punishment for supporting Israel. It was then that we started getting into smaller cars (many of which got better mileage than some of the small cars of today) which greatly reduced the demand. Eventually the supply resumed. Maybe because of better diplomacy, but maybe because the Arabs got a glimpse of our potential to wean ourselves off foreign oil. It didn't take long for the oil to start flowing over here again, and for us to continue our gas crack habit. The current spike in prices have nothing to do with oil inventories, but rather the ability to process the inventories and deliver them to the distribution outlets (gas stations). I've read that the refineries will be back on-line anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. I've also read that the shut-down represents about 20% of the refinery capacity. Oil keeps going down. But then, the last time it started going down this noticably was during another election year (2006).

After watching the two reverses to Riley in the Tulsa game, I predicted that play would eventually come up. Obviously LSU predicted it too.....and had it covered. Coach Dodge should have saved it for a crucial time in a SBC game.

From the Voertman's web-site. This hat.. http://www.voertmans.com/shop_product_deta...roduct_list.asp ...with the NT-star exes logo... Perfect. I challenge the NT exes to get this produced.

Touting the stadium as a green project is very much in line with North Texas traditions......such as Earth Day. North Texas has also been a leader in environmental studies. It also fits in nicely with our school colors and the tradition/legend surrounding the reason why the student body selected the colors. From the "traditions" segment of the UNT web-site. Colors. "After a heated campus debate in 1902, the students chose green and white as the official school colors. According to a 1932 article in the Campus Chat student newspaper, green proponents believed that Mother Nature is kind to those who wear her colors".