SilverEagle

When did North Texas start offering this degree? Is it through the College of Business? Pretty timely offering considering the construction boom going on in the Denton County area. And BTW, are any of you "fire-Mosley" posters going to give him any credit for this donation?

We wouldn't have had DATCU without a student vote. The first attempt (run by him) failed miserably. He had to be told to stay as far away from the second try for it to succeed. But he had to be told. He didn't have enough sense to know that on his own. "Flyer" got the second vote going and saw it through. AND HE NEVER GOT ONE MENTION BY THE (RV) ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT FOR HIS EFFORTS.

Just doing things "part time" Hayden accomplished a lot. He created the Mean Green Club so that donating to the athletic department could start happening. Something that never happened in the history of our school, He got us noticed by local media. He got our merchandise out there better than anyone before. I remember purchasing a Mean Green shirt at the J.C, Pennys at NE mall. Before that, you almost never saw any North Texas Merchandise outside the campus stores. I personally participated in one outreach event where a trailer bed was pulled up to the Sanger town square and set up. A pep band set up and played, Cheerleaders went around and asked Merchants to let them leave season ticket information/applications. They then put on an impromptu pep rally. Their message to the community was "we want to be your college athletic program". They did the same in some other small communities. His promotions guy, Bill Vogel owned a custom Mean Green van. Every time he went out in the community, even for a simple shopping trip, he went in his rolling advertisement for the program.

"Come join us and be part of this great program" should at least be one of the marketing themes.

Heavy sigh. How many times in the past have I ranted about this and got not much reaction, other than the usual "roll-eyes" emogie or the Barney Fife "Oh Boy" emogie. Stop blaming Mosley. I have watched (as a student/alumni) North Texas football since the early 70's and this is the best AD we've had since Hayden Fry. We always look for quick fixes for this and while winning certainly helps, it has never been the single cure......obviously. To begin with, I like the idea of student surveys. I would start with a question about involvement in the athletic program(s) where they went to High School. Did they attend/participate in their HS athletic events? What were the traditions of their High Schools? Did they enjoy participating as a fan during games? Was fan participation an expectation at their school? Does NT have sports traditions? What are they? What are a couple of the "North Texas" yells? Do you feel like you are "part of the crowd spirit" at games. etc, etc. The only tradition at North Texas is building and maintaining their bureaucracy. A petty bureaucrat almost cancelled out battle flag. FFR had to stand up to him at a meeting to finally make him shut up about the flag being illegal and against the law. I had an e-mail exchange with the GB director from about 10 years ago (he was a former GB drum major) who is no longer with the school. I suggested what I thought would be a good song for them to play for the Dancers some time. He responded that he loved the song that I had suggested, but he didn't make the decision about the music for the dancers. He said that he would pass on the suggestion to the director of the Dance team. The Dance team doesn't perform with the Band any longer. I wonder how many committee meetings, and other bureaucrats, were involved before that decision was made. As I've said before, North Texas doesn't have celebrations of their traditions and spirit. They contract with the appropriate groups to put on a football show. Fan participation is mostly optional.

He should have been put on scholarship the very day that he was named #2 behind C4. Not that anyone cares, but I'm still pissed about Shane Porter not being put on scholarship. It was reported on this board that he wanted to stay at NT but went to UTEP because they gave him a ship. This guy was the leading rusher (648 yrds) and he added 91 yards receiving. What the hell?

To me, most of the time when an injury is "faked" is when a team is desperately driving for a tie, or a win and they didn't get out of bounds, and they need to stop the clock. When that happens, the clock needs to start immediately when the "injured" player officially leaves the field. AND the only substitutions that are allowed is for the position of the "injured" player.

Which of our RB's (or future RB) suffered that injury?

Thanks. Based on his Minnesota highlight video, he truly looks like he has immense talent. At least against LaLa. Why did he transfer? Injury? If so, how bad?

Are there any videos of him demonstrating his immenseness on the field, in the heat of battle? @ HS or @ Minnesota.

Well we like to think that we've moved on a great deal since our days the Southland, but have we moved on as much as Texas State? Everyone still has their perception of Texas State that is stuck in the days of the Southland. But they have moved on people! Going to Texas State would be a good road trip for us. Their stadium has the same capacity as ours, and they brought more fans to a bowl game than us. And we are only about 35 miles from Ford Stadium. PLUS they have a better FOOTBALL BAND than us.......Bing Videos

Tulsa serves pretty much the same purpose. They are the Rice of Oklahoma. And I don't like them either. I used to hope we could develop a rivalry with Tulsa, but they (like Rice) don't seem to be the least bit interested. SO, as far as I'm concerned, they can both go off to some other conference and be aloof and indifferent to them.

Totally agree with this. I feel the same way about Rice.

I believe that that is just what happened at the end of fall practice when Coach M. installed Mestemaker as #2 in the QB lineup. And look how that turned out.

??? Where is this article/discussion located?

The Band and the Cheer staff and the Talons do not have a coordinated routine to engage the fans before or during the game. Other than the very generic "Go Mean-Green" we have no signature yell. We have no relentless signature chant, other than the very disjointed and often awkward "NORTH-TEXAS" chant. Which often ends very awkwardly. I've told this story several times in the past, so get your "roll-eyes" emojis ready. In 1990 I was invited to participate in a focus group. Dr. Peter Lane was the person leading the group, and basically, they were trying to determine if there was any interest in North Texas getting back into D-1 football, and what concerns (if any) that the group has about this prospect. The group seemed to feel that it was a good idea and so the meeting was coming to an end. At that point I asked if I could add something to the discussion. Dr. Lane reluctantly agreed. I said that when I go to North Texas games, I observe that we have a Band that shows up in the correct colored Uniform and plays their football play list along with other tunes. The cheer staff show up in their appropriately colored uniforms and proceed to do "cheer stuff".....mostly gymnastics. The football team shows up in their appropriately colored uniforms and goes about the business of trying to win a game in front of what always appears to me to be (for the most part) a somewhat disinterested and/or confused-about-their-role, crowd. I said that all of these aforementioned groups show up and meet the basic requirements of their roles and then leave. There doesn't appear that there is any connection between these groups, before, during, or after the game. I said that it looks more like a contracted event than a gathering of true fans who are celebrating our North Texas culture......whatever the hell that is. So here we are, 34 years later, and based on comments in this thread (and others) nothing has really changed since 1990. Oh, there is one change. When I visited with Dr. Cook a time or two three or four years ago, I told him that I always wondered why we didn't have a "North Texas" fanfare for the beginning of the Band's pre-game show. Like the Texas Band does. I said that surely someone in the most outstanding school of music in the southwest could come up something as relatively simple as that. Well, Dr. Cook came through for us. Thank you, Dr. Cook!

Well, since he installed him as the #2 back at the beginning of the season, I don't think it was a surprise to Coach Morris.

The Band has been a shell of what it used to be for at least a couple of decades. Our cheerleaders are gymnast only. They know nothing about promoting spirit. But then, neither does the Talons and neither does the Band.

It was just another comment amongst many others, in other threads. Including the "pump the breaks" etc. I need to go do something else, and so I just picked this thread to say something, while all my brain cells are focused.

So Coach Morris is overstating things regarding Mr. Mestemaker? How many more are going to come on and pick apart Coach Morris's expertise regarding QB's? He may or may not have been a significant part of the development and ultimate skillsets of two very impressive QB's (Mahomes and Ward) but he was certainly around them long enough to recognize traits of outstanding QB's. And so because of this experience (and expertise), he named Mr. "M" the first back-up to CM, way back at the beginning of the season. And this was with two QBs in the mix with state championships in their resume. SO, after Friday's performance by one of the most unlikely QB candidates in North Texas history, who the hell knows what he's talking about? Coach Morris, or the "my $100 bill is wrinkled" crowd?

Yep, pretty much. I was more impressed with their RS Freshman QB than I was him.

Yeah, he came alive in the second half. But the most impressive run that I've seen (so far) was by Ashton Jeany of BS. He took a hand off and got 10 yards for a first down. Not to impressive sounding in print, but I watched him get hit by six Penn State players and he pushed two of them for the last two yards across the first down line. THAT was an impressive run.

He kind of reminds me of Jim Taylor who played fullback for the Green Bay Packers during the Lombardi years. Jim Taylor (fullback) - Wikipedia (September 20, 1935 – October 13, 2018) was an American professional football player who was a fullback in the National Football League (NFL) for ten seasons, with the Green Bay Packers from 1958 to 1966 and with the expansion New Orleans Saints in 1967. With the Packers, Taylor was invited to five straight Pro Bowls and won four NFL championships, as well as a victory in the first Super Bowl. He was recognized as the NFL Most Valuable Player (MVP) after winning the rushing title in 1962, beating out Jim Brown. An aggressive player and fluent trash talker, Taylor developed several personal rivalries throughout his career, most notably with New York Giants linebacker Sam Huff. This confrontational attitude, combined with his tenacious running style, a penchant for contact, and ability to both withstand and deliver blows, earned him a reputation as one of the league's toughest players.

There he is. Ronnie Shanklin, big play specialist for the 69 NT Eagles.

Hurt my feelings? Here you go trying to marginalize again. I have absolutely no personal connection to Shane Porter, other than his representing my (our) school with extraordinary effort. I'm sorry you can't seem to see that.......or value his effort on behalf of our alma mater. You forgot a guy by the name of Abner Haynes. And right after him was Bobby Smith (#25 on your program) who was drafted by Buffalo. But one of my favorites of that era (60's) was the rushing leader for the 65 & 66 team, an ex-marine named Willie Cherry (#33 on your program). His numbers were pretty pathetic (397 and 218 respectively), by just about any era's standards, but his effort to get those numbers was pretty impressive. He was undersized, but he bit and clawed and gouged for every yard he got. In a lot of ways, Shane Porter reminds me of that guy.