JesseMartin

I thought Carr was thinking about retiring last year but came back this year to try to get a championship...or is that just what the media was saying?!

When I was in HIGH SCHOOL up there one of my teachers pointed out that PSU makes more by keeping him and having losing seasons than they would with a new winning coach (they were in a slump at the time). So...more than a little surprising. Most of the state is in love with the man.

F--k it. Put OU as #1 and Mizzou as #2 and try for a 3-peat...

That's hot. And is that James Marsden/Cyclops up there? I don't think so, but it sure looks like that douche...

yup.

Casey Fitzgerald ended the regular season as the #5 receiver in the nation, and UNT is #16 in passing YPG.

10. Navy. Defense was depressing again, but showed what our offense can do against a bowl-bound team of a pretty decent caliber, and aside from the points records, don't forget Vizza tied an NCAA record. 9. SMU. If not for those 2 INTs at the end of the game, the score would have possibly been flipped: UNT 45, SMU 31. Record-setting offensive night for UNT. How sad that you can pass for 601 yards and not win! 8. ASU. The last few seconds are all that made that game a loss. Slightly better showing by the defense, and if the offense was clicking as well as it did against some other teams, would have been a win. Not that bad a loss, all things considered. 7. FAU. We had a pretty good first half, and if the second was as good we would have won. Again, turnovers...one of their scores exchanged for another for us would have made it 27-23 UNT. 6. ULL. Not a great game, but not too bad of a point difference. 5. OU. I think most of you will disagree here, but I like that Dodge didn't go conservative so that the team would get more practice against a big opponent. Plus, Vizza scored our first TD against them in how long? The score OU put up was embarrassing, but we usually expect to lose to teams like that...at least we put up double digits. 4. Troy. I know they're a good team, but only one TD? And they put up 45, which I would expect more from a Big 12 powerhouse. We shut them out a few years back, 21-0, which shows how far we have to go to get back on top. 3. Arkansas. You expect them to put up a lot, but they beat us almost as badly as OU did, AND we put up 3 less points than we did against OU. 2. Middle Tennessee. Losing Homecoming always sucks, but even more so against MT and by such a large margin. 1. FIU. Losing to the team with the nation's longest losing streak, winless the rest of the year, and by such a large margin is just plain bad. Offensive turnovers tied with bad defense on this one. Anybody else want to compare?

I gotta say it's less of an embarrassment than when we also had 2 wins in Dickey's, what, 9th season?

I expected about 5 wins as well, for those who remember the thread at the beginning of the season. Not even halfway. Let's hope for those results (or better) next year...

I swam in that thing once after bonfire. Then I took a shower. It was really nasty. (And freaking cold!)

Yeah, and they did a regional one too, and he was 1st or 2nd team in that.

LOL I saw it too. Todd Dodge is Chase's daddy. Funny fact....in Grand Prairie, on Pioneer, there's a Daniel Ave., right by the Chase Manhattan...when you're driving east, just as you reach the road, it lines up perfectly and says "CHASE Daniel". I noticed that on Thursday. Thought it was pretty funny.

No such luck. I never met ya, but it's hard to forget early-morning UBD meetings on Wednesdays with great breakfast. I think you're the only SGA Pres. I haven't met. I've met all but like 5 of us who've been in that office since like 1948 because of some of the "Anniversary dinners". Plus I was friends at one time or another with almost all of them from 1996-2005, though it didn't stay that way with a couple. I'm still trying to figure out who the people are who say they know me. I only figured out 2 so far. My capacity for abstract reasoning has clearly been diminished after graduate school

UNT-48 FIU-34

It was Fall of 2001. The green, 3/4 sleeve shirts were limited to like 300 on the first printing...not sure if they ever re-ran them, but they were nice, a little thicker than the cheap white ones we gave away. The plate holders came out a little later...maybe the end of the season? Not sure if we would need a licensing deal with Hans, who designed them...if somebody wants to get them printed up again, let me know and I'll email him. He will probably not care if it's used again but it's always better to ask the artist. I don't think I have his number anymore. Troy Griffis might.

Yeah, there was this loooong breakdown on ESPN the other day about the whole "NFL Network Conspiracy". The only people who get the game are those who have "the right" cable/dish/etc package, as well as *most* people in the Dallas and Green Bay media markets, depending on exactly where in the media market they are and who their carrier is, etc, etc. Their brilliant advice to everyone else was to go to a sports bar. 37-27, final!!! (59 seconds early but I'm an optimist)

I wondered why he sounded smarter tonight. 34-27, 2-minute warning.

Hmm...I'm trying to remember, and I think the stuff in the SSF budget only shows guaranteed revenue, fees, etc. Pretty sure it doesn't show projections of ticket sales, concessions, donations, etc., all of which are pretty big, because the stuff they request through the state is just the "skeleton budget" - basic travel, facilities/maintenance, uniforms, and salaries (and of course a few other things but that's the main stuff), minus guaranteed game money, any media/sponsorship money and in-hand (unspent) donations or something like that. They still have to report everything in the end, but UNT's Athletics Dept. does a great job of keeping a huge portion of the financing off of the students' shoulders. I think that is the longest sentence I have ever written up there... For Texas State to expect all of those (donations, concessions, ticket sales, sponsorships, etc) to exceed ours by almost double when combined with fees...yeah, that still seems pretty suspect. *Addition* I re-read that and it still made almost no sense, sorry. The info at the end of the year includes everything they get that's not guaranteed as well as all expenditures. The initial budget just makes sure they're covered for the things I listed (salaries, travel, etc.) I am so friggin' tired...

That can be taken in SO many ways... Cowboys 34 Packers 24

End of 1Q: Cowboys 13, Packers 10 Now: Cowboys 20, Packers 10

Is that really $25 mil a YEAR? At first I thought you meant 25 from now til 2012 or 2014. When I was last on UNT's s.s.f. committee, the Athletics budget was about 2.3 mil, I think (2000-2001 FY). I know the controversial fee increase in the 02-03 year (or was it 01-02?) bumped that up a bit, but our total budget ran around 7-8 mil when I was in-the-know. They want like 3.5 times that (25 mil total)?! They're only a little smaller than us...would that be continual, or just to "jumpstart things"? Either way, 10 mil a year just for athletic fees is insane. That's more than UNT's entire SSF budget (again, as of a few years ago, so now it might be more than the $8.2 million or so it was when I chaired, I haven't looked). I think the San Marcos area is gorgeous, and wouldn't involve as much with parking and taunting (I hope) as, say, a UT or A&M game. I'd happily take the family for a whole weekend down there. And as far as not wanting "another" (fill in your reason here) in the Belt...really, it's 5 years away before they can even TRY. I think we might want to wait on things for at least a couple of years before we start talking about it, because...who knows how much can change by then?

I'm working. Plus I'm broke for like 3 days.

SMU, a fairly well-off private school, never paid much more than half a mil a year?

Very true. You know why the pop duo Darren Hayes and Daniel Jones of Savage Garden broke up? Because they...well, you know, they broke up.