Green Otaku

It doesn't make sense for them and I doubt the presidents of those schools would go for it. The reason I brought it up is to show that their fans see this news as the conference adding too many teams with poor on-field results and the MW is now a better conference in their eyes.

True. Just saying they don't seem too happy about the news and it also speaks to how they view the MW.

Over on the AAC board it seems like fans of Memphis, Tulsa, and SMU are saying they are hoping their respective school are looking at the MWC.

Like I said I wouldn't be surprised if this is more of a leak of which teams will submit their case to the AAC. I want these sources to clear up if this is only who is being considered.

2 options for them. Reload with FCS schools like Liberty, JMU, Missouri St., or add in NMSU just to keep the conference alive. Or just disband and head to the SBC, they would have some nice divisions and have a good geographic fit. LA Tech I could see going independent as I don't see them wanting to be with the UL schools.

I'm still weary if this is true. Let's not get ahead of ourselves until we see something more substantial. If you think about it adding 3 more Texas teams seems like a big question mark.

Same, I can't keep feeling that if we do get into the AAC it will be a replay of CUSA, where we get to the league and all of the teams we wanted to play are gone. MWC is more stable and has a chance of being the best G5 league.

I can see Boise for the reasons you said. As far as SMU maybe, but it doesn't make sense for them to pay 10 million, plus entrance fees to the MWC, and go to a league with a similar payout. They would also be moving away from their small private peers like Tulane and Tulsa.

Whoops, that's actually a mistake on my part. I thought they had 10 teams left, not 8. So for FB that would make 14. But I do think we have to be weary of more teams leaving the AAC. It seems like Memphis and 1 other are surely gone of the Big12 wants to take more teams. I don't see where else they can really draw from. Maybe Boise St.

I don't think anyone here has noticed some hidden details. What's worrying is if this isn't some typo/wrong info adding 6 would mean the AAC loses 2 more? So they are losing Memphis/USF/SMU or someone else? And who's to say it's to the Big12? *edit* apologies I thought the AAC had 10 teams, I didn't realize they had 8.

I'm still hoping we end up in the MWC.

I haven't downvoted you once. I agree with everything you say except blaming WB. It's easy to say do this or that when you aren't the one having to look at the finances/spreadsheets and coming up with that type of money. Everyone wants SL gone by tomorrow, but I understand that there may be reasons as to why that isn't possible yet.

You sound deranged. No one in the country does things in that manner.

You and everyone knows that's not how it works. You don't go into a season with firing the coach in mind at least not outwardly/or even behind closed doors. Do you know the kind of media nightmare would occur if anything leaked that the AD was looking for options to fire the coach before the season even started? I know emotions are high, but let's bring some reasoning in here. The work starts now, I can only assume Baker and the rest of the AD are working behind the scenes and analyzing all of their options. I'll wait for the results, and judge them on that.

It's easy to say WB should fire him now when you're not in the nitty gritty of all the details. If it were as easy as snapping your fingers, I'm sure WB would do it. None of us know the inner workings, politics, financial constraints, and any number of other things going on in the AD. Nobody is happy with how things are going. I trust WB to make the choice from now to the end of the season as soon as it is feasible.

Why jump on a life boat when you can wait to see how things pan out on the ship right?

Sounds believable. CSU and AF have been frank about the reasons they were considering leaving, one of those was central and eastern time zone exposure. I'm sure they are working with those schools and their network partners to see if there is any value to adding teams.

Welcome Billings, I have kept close tabs on the MWC board, from what I saw there is a good number of posters there would be ok with UNT. Others don't believe we would raise the payout (which is likely true) and see no need to expand. I was surprised that some thought we wouldn't move, thinking why we wouldn't just choose the AAC. UNT has no clear path to the AAC as long as SMU is there, and honestly once the departing AAC teams leave the MWC will be the top G5 conference. I see UNT's invitation as a pretty far off possibility, but I hope it happens. Cheers 🍻

2 posts. Seems legit.

I can't even think of a scenario where UNT replaces Baylor. Look we need to realize that there are steps to going P5. MAC, SBC, CUSA---> AAC, MWC---> P5 There is zero chance of skipping a step. One of the main reasons I want to go to the MWC is we need to get away from SMU, no they can't keep us out but they are a roadblock if we have similar or lesser results. The scenario I hate is: SMU is passed over for the Big12, we have no chance of getting in to the AAC. Then Big 12 expands or PAC 12 expands and takes Tech/OKST/Baylor/TCU and SMU moves to the Big12. We go to the AAC. (this could take years or even decades) Now what? We wait decades to get in to a P5? Let's forge our own path instead. MWC gives us a clearer path to get to a P5 slot in the future. Pac 12 almost took Houston, so who's to say if we move to the MWC and do great we wouldn't be considered. At the very worst, being in the MWC gives you a shot at a NY6 bowl slot, something CUSA will never do.

MWC will be the top G5 when Cincy, Houston, and UCF leave.

Rice would be a shoe in if they guaranteed to spend heavily on athletics. It's not like they are sweating for money. I wonder what kind of conversation Rice would have with a potential interested MWC. AAC has surely reached out to them as well if only to stay in Houston.

I think we can all honestly agree that we are selling our potential right now. Hundreds of thousands of Alums and many of them in DFW means if the MWC can help build us up to ideally a Boise St. style run we can pull a good chunk of eyes. Also don't forget that these teams value Texas recruiting, a team in Texas opens up more possibilities for every team in the MWC.

SMU might listen to the MW, but ultimately it doesn't make sense for them. They would have to pay 10 million (minimum) in exit fees, at this time a lesser pay out, more travel, and they would move away from their small private peers (Tulsa, Tulane.) I just don't see how it benefits them enough to make the move.