Green Otaku

Part of it is name, but part of it is also media contracts and bowl tie ins. As long as those conferences can keep those above others then they will hold the power at the negotiating table. Pac12 has these tie-ins. That's a very solid bowl lineup and all on linear cable. 1. Rose Bowl: Jan. 2, 2 p.m. Pacific time, Pasadena, Calif., ESPN – Pac-12 vs. Big Ten. 2. Alamo Bowl: Dec. 29, 6 p.m. Pacific time, San Antonio, Texas, ESPN – Pac-12 vs. Big 12. 3. Holiday Bowl: Dec. 28, 5 p.m. Pacific time, San Diego, FOX/FS1 – Pac-12 vs. ACC 4. Las Vegas Bowl: Dec. 17, 4:30 p.m. Pacific time, Las Vegas, ABC – Pac-12 vs. SEC 5. Sun Bowl: Dec. 30, 11 a.m. Pacific time, El Paso, Texas, CBS – Pac-12 vs. Notre Dame/ACC 6. LA Bowl: Dec. 17, 12:30 p.m. Pacific time, Inglewood, Calif., ABC – Pac-12 vs. Mountain West. First Responder Bowl -- The Pac-12 might occupy a spot in this Dec. 27 bowl in University Park, Texas, against a team from the ACC, American Athletic or Big 12. Compared to MWC: – Famous Idaho Potato Bowl vs MAC – Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl vs Pac-12 – New Mexico Bowl vs Conference USA – Barstool Arizona Bowl vs MAC – EasyPost Hawai’i Bowl vs Conference USA AAC fairs a little bit better: – Fenway Bowl vs ACC – Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl vs Conference USA – Military Bowl Presented by Peraton vs ACC – Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl vs Army The American Athletic Conference will get a chance at putting four teams in these bowls … – PUBG MOBILE New Mexico Bowl vs Mountain West – RoofClaim.com Boca Raton Bowl vs Group of Five or Army – SERVPRO First Responder Bowl vs ACC, Big 12, or Pac-12 – Tailgreeter Cure Bowl vs Group of Five or Army – TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl vs SEC – Frisco Bowl vs Group of Five or Army – Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl vs ACC, Pac-12, or SEC All that to say it comes down to money. They have it and we don't, so until they lose those contracts they will have the leverage in negotiating. 6C

More than likely the ACC poaches the AAC, even if those two conferences took all 8 from the ACC they would still have 6 schools and would have enough power and name recognition to make the AAC schools jump. Even in the scenarios we are seeing for the PAC12, if WSU/OSU are the only ones left they will take on the entire MWC and continue as the Pac12/14. We have never seen a smaller conference eat a bigger one, or align itself with one, so unless something truly unexpected happens that's the order of things.

Everyone is talking about the SEC wanting Florida St. and Clemson. in 2035 their GOR expires and many are speculating that the SEC is going to come knocking.

It's the sad life of the G5. The only way to break the cycle is to make yourself big enough so you can't be ignored and hope you get a golden ticket. We've been climbing little by little, and we have finally reached a conference with a track record of helping teams grow and take the next step. It's up to us now to be as successful as the 3 that are leaving.

No G5 is turning down an invitation as it stands right now. Even as someone who thinks there is a very real risk of losing the 4 corners schools if the media deal is bad, any school would roll the dice and hope it works out. It's just the reality of things.

Because you go until it isn't. Right now those 10 teams are in the PAC, and it is a P5. The moment it isn't, and it hits the threshold of what you aren't willing to tolerate you change plans.

We've always argued on this board that winning will bring fans, but it's clear we have a deeper rooted problem when a 20-5 team can't get more than 4k fans to a game when we have 44k students. There needs to be some real effort into building the fanbase up.

This needs to be posted again. No way UNT would turn the same invite down. You plan and have contingencies if things go south, but you don't give up the chance . Let's look at it this way, the AAC said they were losing 3, then they lose SMU, then they lose USF, Memphis, and Tulane. Are we going back to CUSA? Yeah, I don't think so either.

For Memphis that's an understatement, you can practically smell the desperation to join a P5 from the Memphis fans. This is why we need to invest like crazy and build ourselves up like UCF/Cincy/Houston. Once the ACC GOR expires all hell might break loose and we need to make ourselves attractive to whatever possible opportunity opens. The ACC might be torn apart by the SEC/Big10, and USF/Memphis would be prime candidates. We need to be ready for whatever happens.

Our friends from the hilltop seem to be pretty quiet lately. You're not getting nervous are you?

As I said in the other thread I don't think P5 is an official designation, it is an old hold over from the Automatic Qualifier (AQ) status of the BCS. Those conferences had contractual agreements with the BCS bowls for their champion to be in those bowls, and while conferences still have tie-ins to those bowl, there is no automatic qualification to the playoff. It was a way to distinguish haves and the have-nots. Even as we go forward the 6 highest champs from any conference are eligible for the playoff, with no conference guaranteed an automatic bid.

I can only guess that they are going by tickets sold and not butts in seats?

Weird, I thought Thursday looked much more full than last night.

I don't think P5 is an official designation. It's an old hold over from the BCS era for the AQ conferences.

Great resounding win. I would have liked to see the bench rotated in a little sooner at about the 10 minute mark. But we just got Sissoko getting more minutes so maybe we better not push our luck. 😂 Very nice 3 point shooting today, the guys just looked dialed in and confident.

Certain is a strong word, and we all know how wild realignment can be. I do think there will be a real attempt by the Big12 to see if some PAC schools are interested. Is this video saying ESPN is out completely in any scenario? If that can be verified and it's only Amazon bidding (rumored to be putting up $15m a year/per school) then I'd agree with you, as with a payout that low everyone would be leaving.

Hopefully we are rested up from the double OT on Thursday. The best thing would be to get out early and have the bench get some good minutes.

For those that didn't watch theres a lot of the limited info we already know, but the most interesting thing he brought up is why would the Big12 let OU/UT go a year early? They let them go for a combined $100m, if they had waited until next year they were looking at $80m each, why would they give up $60m? Best guesses are that they wanted to be set up, and will at least try to offer some PAC teams. Otherwise I'm confused as to why they would give up that money.

55% vs 38%. More than half full and better than being closer to a third.

Agree. No to Texas State.

Not to beat a dead horse, but 3,800 in a 7k arena would look really nice...

Btw this is McCasland's 200th win.

For the primetime slots they probably won't be losing much, the Pac rules the late night slots. Games here on the west coast start at 7pm/9pm central, those were always on Fox/FS1. It's pretty likely that bars and restaurants to have those games on after the primetime games are over. Will ESPN carry those games now? It will all depend on who gets first tier rights, I don't think ESPN will change their programming if they don't get the top Pac game of the week. Amazon already produces shows and content, think about the last time you were on Amazon and saw their content advertised to you. That's probably the answer.