Green Otaku

This will be a real litmus test to how strong the P5/A5 label is. If we think about it logically the PAC4 has 0 leverage. They have 4 schools, no schedule for next year, no media rights deal, etc. They are the ones that need saving not the AAC or the MWC. In theory we should hold all of the cards and be able to dictate what can and can't be possible, all it takes is for each conference to hold strong. You also have to know that if they poach a few teams to save their immediate future they will always be looking for a way out/be the first ones out if the chance comes up. In theory that's how it should work, but we all know that reality is a different thing.

I read somewhere the $50m will be divided among the 12, and payable over a few years. The holiday bowl will go to court most likely, even if they pay some of that the PAC will have $220m+ if they withhold distributions for teams this year. However I haven't been able to confirm if they are doing that anywhere.

9 votes I think. They need 3/4 of the conference to vote in favor of dissolving the conference.

Which ones? I've only ever heard of the comcast overpayment that's $50m.

I think it's been reported that the schools in the conference at that time are the ones responsible for the repayment, not the conference itself. If a conference is dissolved the members split their shares amongst the members. That's why the PAC will try to continue as a conference, they want to keep those credits amongst the 4 members. Another thing people are not talking about is will the PAC withhold conference distribution for the 6 teams leaving this year? Last year it was $37m per team, so will they have $222M to bolster their current teams as well as entice new ones?

Basically the big conferences got tired of things not passing due to smaller conferences saying no. So they threatened to split away unless they were given more authority. The smaller conferences caved, and the A5 was born. Now they can pass rules, while other conferences can choose to adopt those or not, but have no say in what the A5 can adopt. https://www.lawinsport.com/topics/item/what-does-autonomy-for-the-power-5-mean-for-the-ncaa

The ESPN relationship might end up being a key point. I still find it very unlikely, but if they wanted a deal that had ESPN in it, what could the AAC offer? Less than 1% chance of it happening, but I hope Aresco is doing what he can.

Just like the crumbling of the PAC the future will be dictated by what kind of media deal they can offer. Any deal they can strike with Apple has to make financial sense to make the jump. If they can offer enough it will make teams jump. It'd be hard to imagine that with everything they lost that their deal wouldn't go down in $$. They also have to overcome the big exit fee hurtles. I tried warning people on here that even a wounded PAC still held the cards. Lots of details to work through, and not a lot of time on their side. So I'd imagine anything that happens needs to happen fast. We are not out of the woods here.

I meant in the event that OSU/WSU prefer to go to the MWC. They might opt for the more regional side while Cal/Stanford might be enticed by the AAU schools the AAC has. Rice, Tulane, USF.

Yup. Maybe if they hadn't spent decades trying to take as much of the pie and keeping the other half of college football down maybe I'd feel different. Welcome to what we've been living with for years.

We'd come out in a very good position if this were to happen. I don't know how likely to happen that is, but I hope Aresco explores all options. One thing he could pitch to the PAC 4 is we take the PAC name if it means keeping the autonomy tag, which IIRC has its own share of the CFP payout. Then say you will invite SDSU and CSU for 2025. That creates a nice bridge even if only Stanford and Cal join.

Depending on what kind of deal the PAC can get that might be what happens. If they invite they agree to invite the MWC fully the members can vote to dissolve the MWC, meaning they get to keep their tourney credits, and move to the PAC.

Thank you for the thread merger. Too many threads to keep up with.

Then there were 4. Oregon board gives formal approval to negotiate with the B1G, so we can assume Washington will too. Arizona is in, ASU and Utah have also applied to the Big12.

Two really good years under Litrell, and neither one of those came with a conference championship or a bowl win. We lost both of those bowls big too and not to P5 schools, 50-30 and 52-13. I love UNT, but we have to look at things in a realistic light. Respectfully, our location, school size, alumni size, and investment into athletics/facilities were our driving factors into the AAC.

We both know our football record was not what got us into the AAC. We got in in-spite of it.

I think this is the mentality I don't like. It's like trying to trick our fans/ourselves, or to just squeak by into bowl eligibility if we are on the edge. I know scheduling isn't easy and if that's the best we could get then I understand. It's just hard for me to get excited about an FCS opponent.

We always heard the stat. "5 bowls in 6 years under Seth Litrell." or whatever it was. So what did that do exactly?

Having a 7th home game is great. Playing FCS is a lose-lose. You either win like you were supposed to, or take an embarrassing loss. With the CFP expanding our mentality needs to be, "We will do everything we can to get one of those spots." That also includes scheduling the best teams we can.

I'm doubtful. I've never seen an FCS team bring any good numbers.

Maybe by sandwiching them between LSU-Kentucky and Auburn? Good thing we are playing those teams as well. Wait.... right?

I don't remember any of the FCS TX schools bringing a large crowd. The only Texas School I remember bringing a big crows was Houston.

This. And CSU/AFA are surely at the top of teams they would take.

With the changing landscape of college football it would have been prudent to wait. Some teams will have OOC holes that they need to fill.

$10M with a 27 month notice. Leaving with a little over a year notice most teams UConn, Cincy, etc. payed $18M. Less than a year and you are probably looking at $25-28M.