Green Otaku

It just doesn't make any kind of rational sense. Just think about it, the P4 already have a massive pay out, they are extracting the maximum amount of money they can. Where would this money come from? If it existed wouldn't you think it would already be proposed? The average G5 makes $1-2m a year, the B1G distributes $60m, the SEC $51m, the Big12 and ACC $44m. These teams don't need the G5, they can split off any time they want and take the vast majority of money with them. The G5 have 0 power in getting any ideas or proposals passed, it's why these conferences created autonomy for themselves. It's also why they get 90% of the CFP money, that's right, 90%. The G5 that's nearly half of FBS gets 9% of the payout. UNT will get $2m a year while B1G and SEC get $21m a year per team. I'm trying to say this in the nicest way possible, if you think about this in any critical thinking type of way it's clear that it would not make sense for any P4 team. No team is going to agree to lose that kind of money.

I'd definitely take them over any Non-D1 team. With that type of mindset we'll always be a 1 bid league, playing a tough schedule and being ranked really helps elevate the league as a whole. The MWC got 5 teams in last year based on their performance, so that's 5 extra credits for 5 years that gain interest and net the conference more money. We need to have a goal of getting 3-4 teams in a year, and we are not going to do that by playing the types of teams we do.

This has been brought up several times and I always ask the same thing. Why would any P4 team agree to this? What team would voluntarily sign up to lose millions of dollars, fans, donors, prestige, recruits, etc.? Schools fight to be in these conferences, but would be willing to just hand it over? Anyone who thinks this could work is only thinking from the G5 benefit side, and not the massive downside to any P4. The G5s have no leverage, that's why they are getting bent over at every turn, and saying thank you.

Any of those besides SHSU would be solid opponents. I'd take them over LSU Shreveport and Mississippi Valley, and you can't tell me they wouldn't be open to doing a 1 for 1 deal to keep costs down.

All of those teams are better than what we scheduled last year. I would love for Dayton, NMSU, Army, or Richmond to come to the Pit over Omaha, LSU Shreveport, and Angelo State. How can you not see the difference of the quality in teams? We can't get a single notable team to the Pit? Yes this is last year's schedule.

I don't buy it. Let's look at our conference and see what notable opponents our conference mates can get at home. USF: Central Michigan, Loyola Chicago FAU: Loyola Chicago, Liberty, Charleston, FIU Charlotte: Georgia St., Davidson UAB: Southern Miss, McNeese, Drake Memphis: Clemson, Virginia, Vanderbilt SMU: Texas A&M, Dayton Tulsa: Loyola Chicago, New Mexico St. ECU: Georgia Southern, South Carolina Tulane: George Mason Temple: Ole Miss WSU: WKU, Richmond UTSA: Army Rice: Harvard, Louisiana That's a myriad of teams with different reputations and rankings, yet they were all still able to get solid opponents at home. What was our best home opponent? UT Arlington? Is that on the level of any of these teams? Not to me. Every other team in our conference can schedule solid teams at home, so why can't we? We need to be objective and call out when things aren't done well.

At this point I'm not even asking for power conference teams. I'd settle for solid, well known opponents. App State, NMSU, or WKU.

I've been critical of BB scheduling for years, other teams with better and worse records can get better opponents than us. Our strategy seems to be play a couple of invitational tournaments with name teams and fill out the rest of the schedule with a bunch of low level teams. The only praise I can give is at least they seem to be working on the schedule early this year. Maybe we can get the schedule out in August instead of still looking for opponents into October.

Spot on. Maybe I need to remind everyone about losing to FIU, or starting Earle for 2 games, or unable to move it ball for 4 downs vs Navy to try and get a tying FG, or letting Memphis go 75 yards with only 47 seconds left.

This thread title really needs to change to, "I tried to convince myself there was hope for next year yesterday, maybe I can will it into existence." Sorry to be a harsh realist. We have zero concrete evidence on how this team will perform, I can only judge by last year and it was poor. Lost a ton of offense, and a returning DC who was the worst in the country.

Agreed. I don't have a lot of faith with this DC, but I hope Morris made the right call. If we have another bad season with defense he's going to be on thin ice.

Completely disagree with that approach. "Getting your head bounced off the turf" tells you that you were either unprepared and that game is an outlier, that you went up against a championship caliber team, or that your coach/players aren't good enough to compete. Getting your ass kicked tells me more about a team than beating up FCSs.

Ah gotcha, apologies for reading that wrong. Agreed. This thread is just baffling, I can only hope it's a small minority that feels like the title.

We should schedule hard, that's how you get better and gain national respect. It let's you know what a coach is worth and if he can step out of conference and compete. We are a poor program right now, keep your head down, work hard, take challenges, get better. That's what we need to do.

Wyoming is consistently a solid team, good fan support, respected. More like we should strive for UNT to be more like Wyoming.

That's true, we wouldn't want the players to be challenged or anything like that. It might turn into a football game even.

If they are a peer program shouldn't they not be pushing us around? It sounds like your saying they will dominate us like OU would. That's not what a peer program is.

How would getting in for next year make sense? What if your entire team is different and has a terrible season? You get in in from what a team last year did that isn't around anymore? Why play the season if your already qualified? This makes things too messy.

I hope some of you got to see that before it got deleted. 😂

If they are trying to be transparent why not tell us how much they raise? We need to know what impact our contributions are doing, not just throwing money into a void.

It's filler content. Networks need content to fill out their schedules, especially ESPN+ which can show many games at once. I never once said there in no value, tonnage is a thing in media. What I am saying is we are low value, and would be even lower if we make another drop in perception. So now I ask you what is the value of your games when you get paid 10x less than other conferences? And that's us who have the best media deal out of the G5s, the MAC, CUSA, and SBC could be looking at something like 60x lower.

I don't have to guess. Here are the games and here are the ratings: https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/ Week 7. UNT vs Temple, 37k viewers. The big names are getting 3/4/7 Million viewers. Our 37k viewers are are a drop in the ocean. Week 12 we did 618k vs SMU on ESPN2. We'd have to triple those numbers to make people notice us. You may get tired of them, but the general public does not. There's a reason the same few teams are featured on national TV every week, and if people were tired of them they wouldn't be. There's no way we would have any kind of network interest with decent money if we broke away from the power schools.

Do you guys listen to yourselves at all? If we had so much TV value why aren't we getting it now? But somehow if we left the system with the most valuable teams we would get more money? It doesn't have any kind of sense.

Never going to happen.

I too like his frankness and would rather have that then generic coach speak. However the kind of coach I think we need is one the acknowledges those realities, but his goal and messaging is, "We want to win championships, we want to get into the CFP, and we need to build the team to do it." If that's not who you are, move aside and let someone else takeover who is.