tylermeangreen

Did not remember the exact year.....but that was the "snow game" and Bobby Bowden was FSU Head Coach! It was, without a doubt, one of the most memorable games in the life of this ole life-long Texan. The very act of driving from Tyler to Denton in what, to us, was a blizzard - and to sit in Fouts Field in a real snow game......well, that happens very seldom in a Mean Green lifetime.

Amen, Brother Kram!

If you see them side-by-side, you won't get confused! both are class acts!

I wonder on what basis these three were determined to be the ones "grayshirted"? All three of these committed some time ago - Tucker in May or June or so - Hines supposedly at the beginning of the 2010 high school football season - and McDorman quite a while back. I am sure they agreed to this arrangement but, personally, I would be less-than-happy to see those who have committed over the past few weeks get scholarships for fall 2012 and I would have to "grayshirt".

Lairamie Lee did have other offers: At one point he was committed to The University of Wyoming; de-committed and then committed to UTSA; and then de-committed and committed to what, I am told, was his first choice all-along UNT

Yep - televised game at end of season.

My God, if this was intended to reflect your true feelings regarding New Orleans this has to be among the dumbest postings I have read on this board!!! Unenlightened prejudices aside, do you think that New Orleans begins and ends on Bourbon Street? Have you visited the Garden District and the other areas of the city? I have spent a lot of time in New Orleans over the past 40 years - I was just there in December. Beautiful city - great people - wonderful food. I am hoping you made your comments tongue-in-cheek because you were miffed we lost the commit - but if not..........

Well said - Thank you!

Or better yet - Maybe, just maybe, we have been quiet and are not making a fuss about all of this because of one simple reason: we have already been told that we DO fit in these conference's plans for expansion. I mean......that possibility is just as feasible as yours, and it sure does make me sleep better at night!

"......must be present to win" absolutely necessary! great idea. However, much like a scholarship, I would expect the funding would have to be there - where would the funding come from? Ideas?

A generation thing? Perhaps. One nice thing about getting older (and there are not a lot of nice things about getting older) is one worries a lot less about whether other's approve of their fashion choices - or not. Personally, I have worn all of what you suggest - and during this year's games. I have worn shorts with pull-over shirt with loafers and no socks; I have worn sweat pants with hoodie and running shoes; I have worn button-down shirts with whatever - and I will continue these, what some see as fashion faux pas' choices, next year, too. You know what? I don't care at this point in life whether I am a fashion maven or not; whether others waste their time on a sports team board trashing my choices or not. I am comfortable enough in my own skin to make my own decisions 'bout most everything in my life and to hell with other's opinions regarding those decisions. Age brings focus and maturity as to what is important in this life - and this fashion topic for football games ain't! Oh, one other thing I have learned with my maturity (age) progression - the personnel at UNT, and all of the other "charitable" organizations to which I give my money, don't care either - as long as I have a substantial contribution in my hand I am their best friend and they treat me graciously regardless of how I am dressed. Please excuse my posting to an obviously appropriate recruiting thread that, somehow, lost its focus. GMG

Sorry, ace - for a lot of folks it is not "well duh" - their passion for a trophy overrides their good economic sense!

Only if you can also afford to drive that "Benz" to a home of similar "quality and class".

I am no apologist for any of the UNT commits from CH. They have developed their own reputations on the playing field and hopefully they will all be very good players for UNT. You are definitely entitled to your opinion regarding these three players based on the one game that you watched last night. But let me give you a bit of response with the following: Last night I sat at the game with a friend, a CH alum, who has seen two CH games in the past two years – last years, and this years, state championship games. On the other hand, I have attended 26 of the 30 games CH has played the last two years, including all of the playoff games. This friend bent my ear for about three hours telling me what he believed to be the potential collegiate success of many of these players based on what he was seeing in this one game (I doubt seriously he remembers any of the individual players he watched at last year’s championship game). I listened politely (although sometimes it was difficult to keep my bombastic mouth shut) and enjoyed the game knowing that if there is one thing I have learned in 50 + years of watching middle school through professional football games it is that an adequate analysis of how good, or bad, an individual player is cannot be determined on the basis of one game. We have all witnessed great, great games by one-shot wonders (anyone remember Clint Longley’s pass to Drew Pearson against the Washington Redskins), and we have all seen great players have less-than-stellar games on occasion. Personally, I think that individually all three of the players from CH that are UNT commits have had many better games in their high school careers than they played last night. But that was one helluva team they played last night. Ultimately, I think, one is judged on the body of their work – not one part of it. Personally, I think all three of the CH recruits will be red-shirted (my opinion only – I have had no one at UNT or CH even remotely suggest that such would be the case); I think that all three have the potential to be very good players for UNT; and I think we will know in 3 – 4 years whether this UNT coaching staff can turn these projects into winners. Another Booger? UNT has not had one since – and I am not promising that Sir Calvin will play at that level. But I don’t think you or anyone else can make such a blanket statement based on watching him play a single high school game. GMG

Please excuse the length of this final post of many made over two very long seasons. The CH football team has now played 30 games over those past two seasons. Chapel Hill Bulldogs vs. Alvarado Indians – two undefeated teams – played one-another last night and it was quite a game to the complete enjoyment of half of the 22, 748 total fans in attendance. CH won the Class 3-A Division 1 State Championship 20 – 19. For CH it was the 4th of 5 playoff games this year that were not decided until late in the 4th quarter. These were two evenly matched teams that had high-powered offenses coming into the game, and yet the game was a defensive struggle. In the end the game was decided by three Alvarado turnovers (2 fumbles; 1 interception) in the 4th quarter while CH had no turnovers throughout the game. Alvarado was led by running back Wayne Onderdonck who had accumulated approximately 2,800 yards during the season (btw, Alvarado had outscored their opponents prior to this game by a margin of 6 to 1). CH’s defense, for which all three of the Chapel Hill UNT commits play, held Onderdonck to 108 yards on 19 carries, including a 55-yard TD. I have to admit that for this game I watched/enjoyed the team as a whole tonight and paid very little attention to the individual UNT commits. The CH defensive line (certainly including Sir Calvin Wallace who despite being cut-blocked and double-teamed hustled from sideline to sideline chasing down ball carriers) played well, and the linebackers were very active. The offensive numbers for the other two UNT commits: Andrew Tucker – 20 carries for 79 yards and one 11-yard TD Rex Rollins – 10 carries for 32 yards Thanks for reading the CH updates I have sent along the way. Believe me, it has been a great pleasure to have watched this team play for the past two years. Thirty of forty-one players ended their CH career last night. They are a quality, unselfish, group of players who understand the whole concept of TEAM. Add our 2012 commits to CH alum Laramie Lee and UNT has among the best that CH has to offer. This is my last CH game update. -That’s 30-

Wow! Your expertise regarding offensive linemen is far greater than Dan McCarney's? Gimme a friggin' break!

That was the story when they committed - and I have heard nothing to indicate that anything has changed.

LOVE IT! My laugh for the day. Count me as another, EagleMBA!

Sir, you have emotional problems - it is time to get a check-up.....or check-in. Any relevance your earlier posting had has now been lost with the continual vile name-calling. If you have a point, post it. There is certainly no need for the stereotyping name-calling you have used. And sir: For what it is worth, I will put my "UNT Support Credentials" up against yours any day of any week. But my history of support, like yours, does not give one the right to post to another person on this board the way you have chosen to post in this thread.

It was a great game – third CH playoff game in a row that has come down to the last minute or so. As I said before, I am hoping that the adversity faced in all three of these games works to CH's advantage in the state championship game. UNT Chapel Hill Commits Against West Columbia (along with a bit of Friday night game info): Sir Calvin Wallace – DT – Sir Calvin played the first two series of the game, and then had a leg injury. He was out a series and then returned for another series before leaving the game for, basically, the next three quarters. He came in and played the final two defensive series of the game. CH was down 16 – 14, WC had the ball twice and were stopped twice because of the leadership and play of Wallace and Colton Moorehead, along with a swarming CH defense. The first of those last two series CH got the ball back, the QB threw an interception with about 3 – 4 minutes left in the game. Enter Sir Calvin once again and he was a monster – he and the defense held WC to a four-and-out (with CH calling a timeout after plays 1 – 3 and holding on a 4th down and 2-yards to go). CH took over on their own 29 yard line with 2:10 remaining and no timeouts. CH did nothing the first three plays and faced a 4th and 7. The QB was flushed from the pocket, scrambled to the right and found a receiver for a 43-yard play to the WC 25 yard line. CH then converted a 12 yard pass to the 13 – missed a receiver in the end zone – and then with 8-seconds left CH hit a 13-yard TD pass to win the game. Rex Rollin – 10 carries for 88-yards – Rollins is feeling good again and running hard – been injured so much of the season. Andrew Tucker – 3 carries for 11 yards. Tucker was injured in the first half of last week’s game against Navasota and played only 3 – 4 plays the whole game against WC. Given everything I have been able to find out; I think he will be quite ready to go in the state championship game next week. Chapel Hill (14 – 0) vs. Alvarado (14 – 0) will play this coming Friday night, 7:30, for the 3-A Division 1 State Championship at Jerry Jones' Cowboy Stadium. I hope that some of you can make it to the game – last year CH and Henderson managed to draw in excess of 20,000 to the game – not bad for a 3-A game. I expect CH to have all of its starters healthy for this game (at least as healthy as a high school team can be 15 games into a season). I will give one final report on the Mean Green CH commits after the state championship game – and then TylerMeanGreen will retire and leave the sports reporting to the professionals. BTW, my wife, daughter and I sat in the big middle of the rain yesterday and loved every minute of the UNT/MTSU game (well, my wife and daughter loved it a bit less than I did given the miserable conditions). What a way to end the season! GMG

This column is great PR for the program - parents want to see an emphasis on academics as much as they want to see an emphasis on football. We know that a football coach has to win over the parents as much as he has to win over the son. GMG

Thankfully, the UNT Athletic Department Administration did not act upon your yells.

Thanks for the memories - I remember many of those players - I was a commuting UNT grad student in '76, newly married, living outside of Canton, wife commuting to work and also attending college in Dallas, and I was beginning my career teaching economics at Tyler Junior College. In spite of little time for such, we followed the Mean Green faithfully most weekends during football season, as we had during our dating years. I know the "youngster's" on the board get tired of hearing about the Hayden Fry years, but there has been no era in Mean Green Land to match it - None! I hope that level of excitement will once again rain down on the fans of the Mean Green. Again, thanks.

Well said, Lifer - God love 'em, they have been through a lot over the past four years. Gentlemen: You have my utmost respect! May the trials-and-tribulations of the past four years prepare you for a great and successful life.

Well, I don't disagree with you but there have been several on this board who have made negative comments about the number of 2012 recruits coming from one high school - and especially a 3-A high school - so I think the coaching staff would catch hell if they took another CH athlete. And you are also right about two other things - one, Colton Moorehead is flying way low on the radar and two, he was at the camp that Dan McCarney held on the CH campus back in the late spring......so perhaps McCarney did not see what he was looking for in Moorehead. Nothing in this for me - I am just impressed with the kid as a fan sitting in the stands for the past two years - he is a very good athlete AND he shows the leadership qualities that Laramie Lee showed last year. His Head Coach, Thomas Sitton, was quoted in the same article as saying of Moorehead "He takes good angles and he is constantly working his hands, working to the upfield shoulder. He does a good job on the pass rush." He gave his verbal commitment to Northwestern State last Tuesday. But Laramie Lee also gave his commitment first to Wyoming, then to UTSA before finally committing to UNT, which was where he wanted to go all along. Maybe if other D-line prospects do not pan out for UNT McCarney will find Moorehead worth the time as a "project".