Army of Dad

Every player on the team this season was one he recruited too. Obviously, they made excuses for him and his second(!) 20 loss season and losing twice as many times to D1 competition as he won. There are always excuses for failure in this administration.

My guess is 'no'. I don't know @TheTastyGreek personally, but I would imagine he is too emotionally disconnected to start up a new contest.

Aw hell. I was caught up being a dad and responding to CBL and didn't see this thread first. I'm going to just ignore this for a bit.

Better yet, how do you feel that RV is supporting his people and setting them up for success? Since I usually actually answer your questions, I'll give it another go. (In no particular order) 1. Poor customer service pushes away fans. (No of course this isn't the only thing that drives fans away, but it is almost completely within the control of competent ADs). 2. Poor ticket sales and marketing. This includes both single game and season tickets. 3. Substandard facilities. @TheWestie noted a few years back that our basketball lockers rooms lag behind our conference competition. 4. Recruit experience. There's the above noted facilities issue of course (what kid doesn't want to see a 'big time' environment when he visits a school?) Additionally, I've heard from several recruits and their families that they were not impressed/were disappointed with the recruiting experience for game day visits. 4a. Recruit experience when kids come to a nearly empty Super Pit and/or Apogee. The incredibly poor attendance won't impress recruits in a good way. 5. Scheduling. The 5 game home seasons are not ideal situations for football coaches. 6. Poor (being generous here) recruitment to the MGC. 7. Odd/bad/substandard branding and uniforms. They often look cheap. (This is a minor consideration for me personally, but it may matter more to others). And say hello to our combative toward fans SID-not helping with the branding and abrasive to paying customers=bad combination. Of course that all starts at the top, not that I've ever heard RV take any responsibility for anything that wasn't great. The big thing is he is awful at hiring coaches. He is so bad at it that if I were an adminstrator at another school and found out he liked a candidate I was considering I would immediately reexamine the candidate to see if I missed something before removing them from consideration. Early returns on Jalie are promising. She is, I think, the first alum hired by RV to be a head coach here. That should be in her favor when it comes to understanding what she needs to do here to have succes. Littrell hasn't shown too much yet, though it's not his fault he hasn't had any games to coach so there isn't much he could have done for me to consider. Pulling a well regarded and highly rated (with multiple D1 offers) HS QB would have fit the bill, mostly because that is something incredibly difficult to do given the circumstances. I don't wish for these coaches to be losers. Shit, I would have been pretty happy if Benford could have found a way to go 20-12 instead of 12-20 (again). Even if RV failed to see it over and over and over again he should have done the right thing this offseason. Give some tearful speech about how great a man Benford is, how close he came to turning it around here, but at the end of the day he just didn't win enough games and we thank him for his contributions and wish him well in the future. It's entirely possible that I've missed several more items that hurt the chances of a coach to be a winner here, but that's at least a start.

Nah, he'd get another 3-4 ears to produce the same results... ...THEN he would still be retained!

I think the influence from Bonnie Brae will impact the coaches who have to deal with it. I do not think it necessarily dooms all of them to failure, but they are not being set up for success. If they can succeed in spite of it, that is a ringing endorsement for their skills. With RV's vision for hiring coaches it doesn't bode well for anyone who gets hired here. I think it's entirely fair to say that coaches hired by RV are more likely than not to fail. You are what you are (to badly paraphrase Parcells) and his record is either awful, or just slight better than awful.

Yeah, I never say that anymore. I was too often proved wrong in the past.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of it either, but if I had to spin the results of last season I would probably go with the same line.

Uh, you did notice the RV side fired the first shot, right?

Well, there is ample evidence that suggests bolded portion is true. (note: that is not a "fixed" quote)

I was unaware that succes in the classroom and on the field are mutually exclusive.

Sees thread title: Sees disclaimer: ? Reads blog post: (#3 it's cant get much worse)

Thanks. I felt bad giving bad info, but I knew it was from a reliable source so that must have changed recently.

None, drink the beer first!

Ricky's biggest issues are positioning and footwork. I don't think those stem from lack of work on his part. The defense is a mess as whole and no doubt contributes to his problems. His stamina could stand to be improved, but that's not at the top of the list, IMO. I like Brown a lot, seems to be a hard worker and has some real talent. I hope he can heal properly. Holston strikes me more and a defensive player than someone we can count on for offense. He is long and athletic and only a freshman. I think he has potential to develop nicely. Fuller needs some serious work and must become more effective from the charity stripe. He's a real liability there and that should contribute to reduced playing time if he can't fix it. The Daily has done a pitiful job covering basketball. This write up/round table is just the latest example. It's disappointing, because I think at least some of the writers there have some talent.

I agree, early returns are promising. I disagree that this board is the obstacle that must be overcome for coaches to be successful at UNT.

Yes, but those people are doing PR for other departments.

Hmm, I don't that that's going to be possible for some time to come. The failures are so broadly spread throughout the athletic department that it's going to be nearly impossible to have them not leak into most threads. The real vocal minority is the AD supporting fans. Winning and the AD (person and department) acting in an effective, efficient, and professional manner will fix the climate on here. It's taken years to create this climate, it's going to take years to fix it, assuming anyone on Bonnie Brea is even prepared to try. It's going to be a bumpy ride around here.

Hmm, you sure seem angry with all the petty slights and insults. You might need some help. For the substance of your argument to get help, well winning is probably the best thing there. Not much you (or any of us) can do to help that... I'm not sure what you are trying to say in your last sentence. Maybe autocorrect failed you there. eta: There is plenty of reason to be angry right now. I think your anger is misplaced/misdirected.

While that's possible, he was with the current team all through the second semester. The guys have practiced with him and he was on the bench at home games cheering on his new teammates. I don't think his amount of playing time will cause a problem unless he isn't producing and/or working in practice. That said, it's a Benford team and that means losing, and lots of it so that could be a catalyst for chemistry issues.

So, not 'fine'.

Is that for 5 games or 6?

No, I made a comment that not all surprises are good ones. I was addressing your comment "I suspect you will be surprised!!!" I think you are projecting anger issues since pretty much every post (except the first) has included some personal slight, insult, or attack.

If you really feel the need to try to silence an opposing or counter viewpoint then you must feel you have a weak position. If you have a strong position then you should never try to silence the opposing point, let the position speak for itself. You can also identify a weak argument if the one making it feels they must resort to personal attacks.