Army of Dad

What about in between the 40s?

It would make for an interesting experiment and I think it could work, especially if used in certain situations.

@unttau right now:

So just about the entire MGC?

The popularity of any particular opinion plays a large role in that. If it's unpopular then people start hitting away with personal attacks it gets a lock pretty quick. I tend to think the mods are a bit lenient and don't punish both sides of a fight enough. (Not questioning you guys, just discussing the community so no bans needed here) ?

Montana definitely doesn't deserve a 5 seed and maybe Minnesota doesn't either but I sometimes wonder if the selection committee doesn't try to set up some 5/12 & 6/11 matchups for upsets.

Fixed.

I'd disagree, quality discussions can be had on here at any time and there are more than a few posters who throw turds at the walls. Sometimes the turd chuckers hit targets some like to see hit with turd, sometimes they hit targets some don't want hit. Either way it's still poo on the walls.

Giving SL a new contract when he had one in place for four more seasons isn't addressing any problems in football, imo. Other items like increasing recruiting budget and looking to add supplements to the training table are things that address problems/issues/deficiencies.

Maybe @CMJ or @TheTastyGreek can double check me but I think that was the MVC.

Who's been given a vacation from GMG? Again, I've seen the 'this time it really is different' spiel before. If you choose to believe that this time, finally, it will all work out then that's fine. I'm far more skeptical and history would indicate that is more often correct. Shoot, maybe UNT really will finally figure it out, but most of the arguments presented are just people choosing to believe it's different this time. The hiring of a sitting D1 coach is different, trying to catch up on facilities isn't. Being near the top of a conference in terms of coaching pay isn't different. Will these coaches and this AD work out? Maybe, maybe not (though I think McCasland has a better than even chance of working out).

I fail to see how that would change their resumes when they were hired to be a head football coach here. What is the meaning of 'is'? WBB is often grouped into that category here. Surely there is some revenue (not profit, but that's not likely to be the case for MBB or football either) so it could be called a revenue sport. ?

Karen Ast-oh dang, you said from a FBS so your point stands. Well played. I only stated it in this instance since WB cited well being of student athletes in his "I waited to act on Benford comments". I thought I knew your meaning, but wanted to make sure.

No, since the discussion was based on their resumes when hired to coach football at UNT.

Canning Benford before allowing him to coach out every season on his contract and making an apparently good hire are not mutually exclusive things. I'd argue that canning Benford earlier both makes a statement to your customers and gets you in position to act quickly if the right candidate is available. WB moved quickly to hire his choice, but missed the opportunity to send a statement. I don't think his true believers would have been peeved at him if he fired Benford sooner so he could have gotten more out of the process and not lost the support he still has.

Disagree. SL did not have a better resume. eta: How does giving SL a new contract "address problems on the football side"?

What do you think of having a penalty for failing to meet the agreed upon minimum standard? Something along the lines of reducing the payouts to underperforming schools?

Hired HC for MBB? No, but we've done that a couple of times for the other BB team and could fairly describe that success rate as 0-1-1. For every single other point we could go back and revisit a similar point (gotta add tailgating, need a new football stadium, need soccer stadium, softball stadium, increase coach pay, fire underperforming coaches, etc...) and find one or more offsetting data points in the other direction. Like I posted to GrangGreen, it's a glass half full or empty thing. Huh?

I'll agree on McCasland, but could argue that Mac had a better resume than SL. Two different types of hires (P5 assistant vs. P5 head coach & assistant), but I think you could give a nod to Mac's resume.

Spell check, that wasn't a shot, sorry if you took it that way. I see the issue as being more deep seated than whomever is sitting in the AD chair at any given time. This whole thing seems to be a 'glass half full/empty' kind of discussion. Some people want to believe that this time it's really going to be different. I heard similar things (and said some of them) in the past. I'm on the glass half empty side of this equation at the moment. By it's very nature GMG has a higher percentage of half full/believers.

How can you say it's different? I believe Benford's pay was at or near the top of the Belt and was near the top of CUSA. How is having a new coach's pay near the top of the conference a different approach? About the only difference is that the new coach was a D1 head coach when he was hired here.

The legroom between rows does leave something to be desired. As for the suites, I think the higher location would be good, and not interfering with more involved fans. I don't think the school is really interested in reducing seating capacity since other uses for the SP demand more seating than MBB has needed.

I'm going to assume you meant 'athletics' and spell check/autocorrect didn't help you out. No school really serious about winning athletic programs retains a Benford level coach for all five seasons included in his contract. I don't know that extending a football coach with 5-8 record and paying the new MBB coach more than the last one really shows UNT is getting ahead of the curve. It does show that coach pay is near the top of the conference. Benford's pay was also near the top and that obviously didn't lead to being competitive.

Agreed. @TheWestie did you get a chance to check out the new lighting before you migrated?

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