SteaminWillieBeamin

https://presidentialgolftracker.com/

I bet you love to trade a first lady that got some fame with soft-core porn for a first lady that made her name with real porn (including a pee tape with Ray J).

I am so happy. That's his magic. You are trying to strawman titles - it's ok - but it is disingenuous. It's disappointing. We know the Pence was not talking about nuance of this really being the first wave. If read it article - he is saying the virus is under control and we are not seeing an upswing. Fauci was using his words to indicate that we were never out of the first wave and never had this under control. But I get it - you don't think there is anything we can do or that the government can do (with words or actions) that can stop this virus and we need to just pull our seats up the bar and take a strong pull. How about ICE saying they will deport students if universities are online? Astounding leadership! Let's try to punish those liberal institutions and their brainwashed students if they do they decide the right thing is to do online school for part of the year. I am sure we can all agree these guys need to get the hell out of our country - right? ACC – 19 Ruke Orhorhoro, DL, Clemson (Nigeria) Abdul Bello, OL, Florida State (Nigeria) Sylvain Yondjouen, DL, Georgia Tech (Belgium) Louis Hedley, P, Miami (Australia) Alan Nadelsticher, LS, Miami (Mexico) Mackenzie Morgan, P, NC State (Australia) Kirk Christodoulou, P, Pittsburgh (Australia) Liam Dick, OL, Pittsburgh (Canada) Jared Wayne, WR, Pittsburgh (Canada) Matthew Bergeron, OL, Syracuse (Quebec, Canada) Geoff Cantin, LB, Syracuse (Quebec, Canada) Patrick Davis, OL, Syracuse (Quebec, Canada) Tyrell Richards, LB, Syracuse (Canada) Kariem Al Soufi, OL, Virginia (Germany) Terrell Jana, WR, Virginia (Canada) Gerrik Vollmer, OL, Virginia (Germany) Luke Wentz, QB, Virginia (Germany) Oscar Bradburn, P, Virginia Tech (Australia) Big Ten – 15 Sydney Brown, S, Illinois (Canada) Blake Hayes, P, Illinois (Australia) Haydon Whitehead, P, Indiana (Australia) Michael Sleep-Dalton, P, Iowa (Australia) David Ojabo, DL, Michigan (Scotland) Luiji Vilain, DL, Michigan (Canada) Julius Welschof, DL, Michigan (Germany) Jack Bouwmeester, P, Michigan State (Australia) Daniel Faalele, OL, Minnesota (Australia) Joseph Darkwa, DT, Penn State (Germany) Jonathan Sutherland, S, Penn State (Canada) Anton Oskarrson, OL, Rutgers (Sweden) Adam Korsak, P, Rutgers (Australia) Sam Vretman, OL, Rutgers (Sweden) Big 12 – 7 Matt Leo, DE, Iowa State (Australia) Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State (Canada) Tom Hutton, P, Oklahoma State (Australia) Ryan Bujcevski, P, Texas (Australia) Jose Miranda, RB, TCU (Nicaragua) Jordan Sandy, P, TCU (Australia) Eric Sjostedt, OL, West Virginia (Sweden) Pac-12 – 21 Steven Coutts, P, California (Australia) Jasper Frils, OL, California (Germany) Siulagisipai Fuimaono, DT, California (Japan) Lone Toailoa, DL, California (New Zealand) James Stefanou, P, Colorado (Australia) Valentin Senn, OL, Colorado (Australia) Simon Sandberg, DL, Oregon State (Sweden) =Ben Griffiths, P, USC (Australia) Luke Felix-Fualalo, OL, Utah (Australia) Ben Lennon, P, Utah (Australia) Keegan Markgraf, LS, Utah (Canada) Vamidele Olaseni, OL, Utah (England) Thomas Yassmin, TE, Utah (Australia) Misiona Aiolupotea-Pei, DL, Washington St. (Australia) SEC – 3 Josh Growden, P, LSU (Australia) Franklin Agbasimere, LB, Missouri (Nigeria) Mohamed Diallo, OL, Texas A&M (Canada) Independents – 7 Miguel Provencio, TE, New Mexico State (Mexico) Samuel Emilus, WR, UMass (Quebec, Canada) Tyris LeBeau, S, UMass (Canada) John Kourtis, OL, Liberty (Canada) Ralfs Rusins, DL, Liberty (Latvia) Danny Jones, P, BYU (Australia) Motekiai Langi, DL, BYU (Tonga) American – 17 Chris Ferguston, OT, Cincinnati (Bahamas) Bruno Labelle, TE, Cincinnati (Quebec, Canada) Lorenz Metz, DT, Cincinnati (Germany) James Smith, P, Cincinnati (Australia) Kevens Clercius, WR, UConn (Quebec, Canada) Terrence Ganyi, LB, UConn (Quebec, Canada) Luke Magliozzi, P, UConn (Australia) Lwal Uguak, DE, UConn (Canada) Jack Zergiotis, QB, UConn (Quebec, Canada) Olivier Charles-Pierre, DE, Houston (Quebec, Canada) Dane Roy, P, Houston (Australia) Jamie Sackville, P, SMU (Australia) Trent Schneider, P, South Florida (Australia) Oskar Andersson, OL, Temple (Sweden) Isaac Moore, OL, Temple (Sweden) Victor Stoffel, OL, Temple (Sweden) Nick Toppino, WR, Tulane (Japan) Conference USA – 5 Frederik Antoine, WR, Old Dominion (Quebec, Canada) Mitchell Crawford, P, UTEP (Australia) Lucas Dean, P, UTSA (Australia) John Haggerty, P, Western Kentucky (Australia) Mid-American – 17 Julien Bourassa, TE, Buffalo (Quebec, Canada) Cole Burniston, TE, Buffalo (Canada) Tomas Jack-Kurdyla, DE, Buffalo (Quebec, Canada) Dominic Johnson, QB, Buffalo (Canada) Dev Lamour, FS, Buffalo (Quebec, Canada) Gabe Wallace, OT, Buffalo (Canada) Fabian Weltz, LB, Buffalo (Germany) Albert Jespersen, DL, Central Michigan (Denmark) Berenard Raimann, TE, Central Michigan (Austria) Oge Udeogu, OL, Central Michigan (Nigeria) Jake Julien, P, Eastern Michigan (Canada) Thomas Odukoya, TE, Eastern Michigan (Netherlands) Yannik Rohrschneider, OL, Eastern Michigan (Germany) Sidy Sow, OL, Eastern Michigan (Quebec, Canada) Thomas Aronokhale, OL, Ohio (Austria) Denzel Daxon, DL, Ohio (Bahamas) Bailey Flint, P, Toledo (Australia) Mountain West – 26 Isaiah Bagnah, LB, Boise State (Canada) Jan-Phillip Bombek, DE, Colorado State (Germany) Marc-David Bien-Aime, OL, Fresno State (Quebec, Canada) Dontae Bull, OL, Fresno State (Canada) Alex Dumais, OL, Fresno State (Quebec, Canada) Stan Gaudion, P, Hawaii (Australia) Max Hendrie, DL, Hawaii (Australia) Nick Mardner, WR, Hawaii (Canada) Ryan Meskell, K, Hawaii (Australia) Ben Scruton, DB, Hawaii (Australia) Tyson Dyer, P, New Mexico (Australia) Ladji Bagayoko, OL, San Diego State (Quebec, Canada) Lasse Engel, DB, San Diego State (Germany) Delon Jemmott, DL, San Diego State (Canada) Daniel Okpoko, DL, San Diego State (Canada) Samir El Negro, OL, San Jose State (Italy) Duane Tuitasi, DL, San Jose State (Australia) Sun Belt – 6 Xavier Subotsch, P, Appalachian State (Australia) Aaron Donkor, DL, Arkansas State (Germany) Alex Roberts, RB, Arkansas State (Japan) Enock Makonzo, DB, Coastal Carolina (Quebec, Canada) Oliver Holdenson, P, Georgia State (Australia) Rhys Byrns, P, Louisiana (Australia)

I am glad you recognize and don't put stock in his words. I wish all were so strong. Because his own people, that he "employs", are still out there (with much better language) trying convincing people that this is blown up and fake. Pence in his own op-ed: https://www.wsj.com/articles/there-isnt-a-coronavirus-second-wave-11592327890 Or Trump's pressure to make sure there is no 'mask mandate' - Pence is out there swinging for the fences: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/trump-says-coronavirus-masks-are-good-but-doubts-national-mandate-is-needed.html It just doesn't stop. The words are actions. Showing no governance or leadership on the MOST basic of science.

Yeh - know you didn't say "best words." Obviously that is using Trump's own best words to show his use of best words. And for the record - I am terrible and counting lines on a cell phone screen. To err is human, no? I count six, not seven and 2 or the 6 still. But my l33t text parsing skills can be wrong. 😉 But really - it kind of rubs me the wrong way how you can wave your hands in the air and seem to indicate that his words just are just not well placed - that he can do better. Like he is just mumbling or just not conveying how he really feels accurately. His words are actions. It takes actual effort to be so wrong on so many things. To pick up and tweet for often. To send out his press secretary to lie so often about the obvious. To have Pence peddle some half-truths about how we are sooooooo lucky that young people are getting it now. To press the point that "99% of people who get China-Virus is completely harmless" ... it is dangerous. Those words are actions. So yeh - stopping those actions is a starting point.

Just because you can't control some people - you still should do the right thing and follow the science. France is roughly the same size of Texas and more than double the population. How did they contain this? EU populate comparable to the US - how did they contain this? Start there... You think those countries don't have individual thinker who can't be controlled or be bothered to care about doing the right thing? We need to stop thinking that we are a special case on all things and we can do it all better on our own path.

I re-read my list and five of the seven listed items do not involve Trump's words. They are actions. Simple actions -- to not be a brazen ass. So, I don't agree at all that "most of this list" is about the President using his "best words" - we know he knows the best words.

I glad a reasonable response sounds "nice" to you. It is a start - like I said. Once we have a baseline understanding of how serious this is - then we can start actually making policy that people should be able to understand and follow. Lockdowns, mandatory stay in place orders, etc etc. Maybe restricting air travel between states. Enforcing quarantines. Fund *actual* laboratories instead the startup shops by someone's B-school bro. There a lot of actions that can be taken - once you know - we can all agree that this virus is actually dangerous and not Kung-Flu. Instead you have a Senator going to get a haircut from a salon that was violating the county orders in front of cameras for the whole showmanship of it. It's more than just a nicety. It's called leadership.

For starters: Lead by example. Clearly state this is not a hoax and the dangers are real. The top leaders need to be seen wearing a mask and showing the recommended protocol. Do not have mass gatherings (rallies?) in locations that have no met the CDC recommendations for public gatherings. Enforce a mask policy at your gathers (SD, DC 4th celebrations). Offer as much assistance as required and wanted by the states with an outbreak (without saying - this means to not threaten 'liberal' states that don't align with the President's ego). Don't lie! Stop saying that everyone who wants a test can get a test. Stop lying about the capability of tests. That is just the baseline what I would expect from an administration when so many people are affected by this sickness. Instead this administration inserts doubt into the numbers or the seriousness - ignore all their own recommendations - go to twitter to show off how much they are not following the CDC policies. Trump goes on TV and still is saying this will "disappear" and signs are looking good. Passing off the theory the summer heat will take care of it (as we saw parroted at gmg - a lot). So how about some good old fashioned hat holding on the things they got wrong and show some leadership on getting this back on track? All of this certainly emboldens those that want to doubt and want to blindly follow Trump to the Earth's end.

I guess I am not old enough to get the reference.

Is there? I mean... doesn't seem like this administration is trying to slow this down. They are running up the score here.

Arizona putting up some solid deaths today. Their hospitals are in the same dire situation.

You realize that Clinton won the popular vote, right? There are more 'liberals' than GOP

That's a relief!

It's not hard to get, it's just backwards and happens to be the same language used of the deniers .. of the king flu'ers.. When talking about an inverted bell curve, the term bottom out makes sense.. it is natural to expect something to get better and return to normal. Stock market, real estate, salary, etc. The bottom out is the low point and it will get better. Pandemics track a regular bell curve and when it bottoms out - that's near the end of the curve. I'd expect layman terms of dip or a trend when taking about how you think we are not bottomed out yet, but instead you still expect a rise.. That's what I hear my denier pals saying (bottoming out, proof this is overplayed, it'll disappear, proof it's a hoax) ... I think that's why you are getting some push back.

Exactly half way through this year and we are on pace for 250k dead from this bottoming out pandemic.

I wonder if MoMo had caught Covid yet.

I don't know. Seems like a Schrodinger's cat situation. If it's available, but you don't use it and it's not available and you don't use it.. it's really the same outcome. Just because someone lifted the box and showed you it's not available it all of a sudden changes something? You're still not using it. But we can agree to disagree. I think it's really selfish to assume that costs go down because your aren't at the University in person. If anything it costs more - since they are incurring all these new costs to provide online lessons, grading, training, servers, capacity and all that good stuff. Education is a bit of a black box. You can't start picking and choosing what you think you should pay for.. just like our football won't be around without the athletic fee. Maybe all the students should get a break on that for that last year and this next one - them we can really starve this beast to death.

Obviously remote work is not new - these companies have always had the ability to hire elsewhere. They pay the regional adjusted salaries when they do hire remote workers. So there is not a shift of high salary jobs behing offered in Omaha - Facebook will pay Omaha salaries. I don't see a shift here other than companies not being able to dictate that a local worker needs to be in office x-amount if the time. Everything has moved to flex time - I wonder how that will change work. It's like Netflix and their unlimited PTO policy. Turns out people take less time off. Same for flex hours - people end up working more.

Over 1000 covid cases to be reported for Dallas tomorrow.

My assumption until proven otherwise is that excess deaths are not being accounted for at a greater level NOW than previous months. Only because the administration really wanted to open up and get back to normal - and you see it in counties like Collin. They are not reporting themselves anymore, it goes through the state of Texas. Whereas Dallas and Harris counties are doing their own reporting. If you watched the numbers to when Collin switched to doing it through Texas instead of their own reporting - their numbers dropped immediately. I am not rooting for deaths here - I am just saying that what @97and03 is saying - that the death numbers are not telling the full story (yet).

Those deaths will end up being counted as Covid death in normal administrations. Just like PR hurricane deaths climbed after the storm when they counted the people who died because the hospitals had no power. They didn't die directly from a swell of wind and rain.

You can't assume that, since they didn't cover June and July excess deaths. If they were undercounting up to May, that undercounting would still be missing the potentially increasing excess deaths. Since you don't know the excess deaths for those months - we will never know. Well, not for a few months. There has been pressure to not report as Covid in certain states/counties as it went on longer.

The taxes don't really work like that. They are budgeted - not just a large pool. I know what you are saying though. I hope I can stop paying my portion of taxes that goes to help fund higher education if they aren't on campus too. It's really just bitching to bitch. MOST students don't go to the rec center, but they have to pay the fee. MOST students do not ever step foot at an athletic event. They already pay for stuff they don't use. It is setup as a greater good. The rec center wouldn't exist without my time in college when the fee took effect and was completed way after I was gone. I never got to use it. Never will. You are right, taxes are not like university. The student can stop going for a semester if they don't want to pay the fees. I can't do anything about my inability to use the splash pads with my sons - but I still pay for them.