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This is why online voting should never be used.. Make them come to the office to cast a ballot. That way there is no confusion, or balloting going on the fritz. This is a disaster waiting to happen.

Just doesn't want to pay for a damn thing, see it's not just about the athletic fee. NT DAILY LINK

I heart Casey!

I think the issue is that the sat's are an admittance test. The students they paid were already admitted to the university.

Baylor paid freshmen to retake the SAT By SARA RIMER The New York Times Baylor University, which has a goal of rising to the first tier of national college rankings, last June offered its admitted freshmen a $300 campus bookstore credit to retake the SAT, and $1,000 a year in merit scholarship aid for those who raised their scores by at least 50 points. Of this year's freshman class of about 3,000, 861 students received the bookstore credit and 150 students qualified for the merit aid, said John Barry, the Waco university's vice president for communications and marketing. "We're very happy with the way it worked out," Barry said in a telephone interview. "The lion's share of students ended up with the $300 credit they could use in our bookstore. That's not going to make or break the bank for anybody. But it's sure been appreciated by our students and parents." The offer, which was reported last week by the university's student newspaper, The Lariat, raised Baylor's average SAT score for incoming freshmen to 1210, from 1200, Barry said. That score is one of the factors in the rankings compiled by U.S. News and World Report. News of the action by Baylor, the 14,000-student, private Baptist university, came just weeks after the National Association for College Admission Counseling (NACAC) issued a report calling for a re-examination of the use of SAT and ACT scores in both college admissions and the awarding of merit aid. Critics of standardized testing said they were troubled by Baylor's action, pointing out that the SAT was designed as an admission test and that these students had already been admitted. "This appears to be the type of misuse of undergraduate admission tests that the NACAC Testing Commission sought to identify and correct," said David Hawkins, the author of the new SAT study and the director of public policy and research for the National Association for College Admission Counseling. Barry said that Baylor's decision to offer freshmen incentives for retaking the test was driven primarily by the university's desire to award additional merit aid. He said the new students had not had enough chances to qualify for the aid. Asked whether the decision was motivated at all by the college rankings, Barry did not say that they were not. "Every university wants to have great SAT scores," he said. "Every university wants to be perceived as having a high-quality class. We all wanted that. Were we happy our SAT scores went up? Yes. Did our students earn their scores? Yes they did." Robert Schaeffer, the public education director for FairTest, a nonprofit group that has been critical of the use of standardized tests in college admissions, said Baylor's move "fans the fire of SAT paranoia." Whatever university officials might say, Schaeffer said he found it hard to believe that encouraging students to retake the SAT was not connected to the university's widely publicized 10-year strategic plan - called Baylor 2012 - which says that one of its major goals is bolstering its 2009 ranking of 76 among best national universities in U.S. News & World Report. "This is a straightforward, cynical attempt to manipulate test-score averages to boost Baylor's rankings," Schaeffer said. "This is a perfect example of what NACAC warned about in their report." Liz Foreman, the assistant city editor of The Lariat, and Ashley Corinne Killough, a staff writer, broke the story about the SAT retake Oct. 9. In Tuesday's Lariat, an editorial accused Baylor officials of "using some cheap ploys to try to better its ranking." "The deal is unfair to the upperclassmen at Baylor," the editorial continued. "Every college student could use an extra $300 to pay for books or the chance to knock $1,000 off each year's tuition, but only this year's freshmen received that opportunity." One of those quoted in for The Lariat's initial article was Emanuel Gawrieh, a sophomore. "I think the people who put forth this decision completely compromised what they say Baylor is about: its Christian values, the integrity of Baylor, the integrity of Baylor 2012," Gawrieh said in a telephone interview. A number of freshmen in Gawrieh's residence hall took Baylor up on its offer to retake the SAT. "It was because of the incentive," said one of those freshmen, Max Herrera, 18, a chemistry major from Houston. "It helped with the books. My books cost over $800."

Now I know where any future donations to the school I may make will NOT go.. Journalism. I am an RTVF grad, so hopefully they aren't participating in this kind of unbalanced reporting. IF so my money will avoid the hands of RTVF as well.

Do student athletes get to vote?

OGS posted it here first. http://www.gomeangreen.com/forums/index.ph...=43563&st=0

will most likely be there.

I would call and check about your status, we need all the help we can get. I am not a student, I might be again sometime soon, but i would vote if I could. If I don't go back to school then I will find a way to donate to the fund.

http://www.ntdaily.com/home/index.cfm?even...2b-c37e0730fb51 If you were to read every op ed piece in the daily and the daily itself, one would think no one on the campus wants the fee.

Why don't you post it on the nt daily comments section? So they realize how wrong they are.

I agree, while it seems he may be too conservative for me at times, and his teams are getting blown out we cant become a revolving door. We need to give him a little more time. I say that now after I have cooled off. But Saturday was still fun. I want to win, I want to win bad... So You can't tell me the guys in the locker room don't want to win. I just can't wait till we are no longer the laughing stock off football. I don't know if todge is the answer but we have to give him time and hope, that if he's not the guy the admins will do the right thing.

It's a luxury for us, we're not supposed to have anything nice. UT, A&M and others have seen to that.

I guess my sarcasm wasn't detected.

We might want to wait on the pyro technics until the new one's built. If the new one gets built. I mean with WBAP running one sided "news" stories you never know. Aren't they the Channel 8 of radio? If they say it, it must be true, right?

Good Job Ladies! You make us proud. Keep up the hard work.

I hope this confuses the "against' students and they don't log on and are too bothered to vote in person. This online voting is dangerous.

Well I asked some band members what they thought about it, and they said.. "what vote?"

Not to mention just before the half with eight seconds to go, we go for a field goal that , uhm we missed. Why not take a shot in the end zone? Why? WHY? WHY?

I didn't see it but I heard it.

sure was.. good stuff, and I had my fill of jello! mmm.. jello!

I believe there was a bad accident and it was the only place they could land so the ambulance drove the vics to the chopper.

Uhmmmm... aren't we the ultimate underdog?

Don't worry, papers will all be gone soon, thank you interwebs!