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I do have to admit to smiling a bit every time I check that GoFundMe site and the banner one as well as there is Andy Mac's Dad with Margy McCarney front and center. The subtle humor is classic. Anyone care to admit to design ownership?

You seriously did not just post this? This is too rich. While it has been a bit of time since you were part of the "younger generation" (while still much younger than yours truly here), you could quite easily have pointed this post right to yourself as evidenced by several of your posts directed my way recently. I am sending you several tubes of Preperation H for that butt hurt of yours over a bit of "disagreement". Remember, "it's not insulting if I disagree with you".

Great meeting you as well Travis. Thanks for bringing the kids out and supporting the Mean Green. Hope to see you Monday as well. Fun game with all the scoring.

I'm just feeling the love. Sorry you have had to take this disagreement regarding the banner down to the gutter level, but, I guess you don't see the irony in it all. Not fun when it hits too close to home, huh? No mind....you should remember what you try to preach...It's just a message board...get over it! Try to keep it out of the grade school name calling four letter word arena. Not becoming or mature of you at all. You are better than that...I know that to be a fact. Keep it civil my friend. Pretty much has been up to a last couple of posts from you reflecting your ire over my "hitting too close to home for you" posts. And, as a UNT donor and fan, I have a lot invested in what is happening regarding this banner even though I would never donate to anything that brings negative attention to UNT. You guys got your 15 min. Of fame. Well, those man enough to use their own names anyway, so we'll see where it gets you. Unlike you, I do care what you think about UNT and UNT Athletics. I simply in no way agree with your tactics. I think they are shameful. But, you have your opinion on it and I have mine. It's a message board. You tend to tell folks that all the time when someone Takeshita bit of age se to what you post. Try to remember that yourself. No need to wallow in the gutter.

Oh, Ben, go ahead...you tell me why. It is obviously a burning question for you.

No.....but you can justify the bait and switch any way you like if it helps make you feel better. He did not deliver what was promised. Switch it around any way you like. It IS just a message board after all. Why get bent out of shape? Did UNT90 hire you to be his apologist or something?

I see you changed it...or a mod friendly to you did...you did not say..."stay out of it", you actually posted "STFU". Just trying to make sure the facts are correct here.

I hear the pilot decided to just change the agreement due to wind conditions and will now be flying the banner over UNT-Dallas.

Really? More like having fun with irony. Remember, UNT90 always tells folks it is just a message board and to get over it....that is, I guess until it hits a tad to close for him and then it is all "STFU"! Ain't irony just super fun? Why not have some fun with 90's broken covenant? It's just a message board after all, right, Christopher? I can now sit back and watch folks attempt to justify how it is "different" than what UNT90 claims RV does. That's going to get to be even fun. I do believe it has already started. Just think of all the new "hits" GMG.Com will get.

Ha! I see my post hit a little too close to home for you. Yet, you love posting the same about others. Man, talk about the shoe being on the other foot. Don't enjoy it much when it is your motives and actions being discussed, huh? Gee, why so thin skinned? When someone points out the irony you start with the "oh, you shouldn't have a say because you didn't contribute to my childish efforts". Really, then all those loudly proclaiming they no longer contribute to the Mean Green Club or UNT should no longer post either in ur opinion, right? Oh, the irony...the beautiful irony. Thanks for letting us all know how butt hurt you are when it hits a tad close to home. It just adds to the whole adventure. Wait...I hear a plane.........is it game day?

Hmmmm....no...I ain't seen no stinking post!

So, UNT90 sets up a site, announces the rules, pleads for donations, sets the parameters for the funds use, and then on his own changes the rules and decides for himself when the banner will be flown. All the while he yells to high heaven about some supposed broken promises by RV. My my perhaps actually having to manage something is a bit more challenging than just sitting back on a message board and throwing rocks. How about a GoFundMe site to raise funds for a fire UNT90 banner...the guy that broke the agreement with donors? Seems like power has corrupted 90 and his hubris about how easy it is to manage stuff is just that...internet board hubris. Agreements in fund raising...heck those pesky agreements don't mean nothing when you are UNT90. Too funny this irony stuff. Gee, Wally, really swell of you to change the game on your own. I would say that the irony is just about too much to take here folks. Even you ardent RV haters must see the irony in this and smile just a tad.

Gosh, that's swell of you.

If a banner flies and no one notices, did it really fly?

Terrible news. One of the Mean Green's best has left us way way too young. I always loved watching Tony play. He never took a play off and was a great teammate. Great guy and great player. Rest in peace, Tony. May God grant you peace and may God grant your friends and family peace. I do believe Tony was an owner of the Texas Pick-Up at one time...bought it from the original owners as I recall.

Yep...but my dance would be much happier if the Mean Green had won as well!

I hear this all the time as a reason for not donating or getting involved. Seems to be odd to me as one can always, if they are really interested, pick up the phone, go on-line to meangreensports, the Alumni Assoc or Advancement website and start donating. I realize lots of folks want to be asked, but, if really interested in paying it forward, why not take the initiative? I know, I know lots here will say "not my job"...OK, fine, but a little initiative is not bad either. You do realize that the Mean Green Club has a $25 membership level now, right? That is hardly seven figures. This, "I am not rich so I don't count" is so much BS and reeks of entitlement and excuse. Every non-profit will tell you that any amount matters and all donations of any size are needed and are important. But, you really did already know that, didn't you? Be honest. If you do truly want a personal invite, and you just might, PM me with your contact info and I'll give you a call or send you an email ask. That way you can definitely get on a few folks radar screen for regular asks. As a counter to your point above...what if a bunch of 2011 grads took a little initiative to show up at games and join the MGC at $25 each? That way they would be buying a game ticket at some level and making sure all their contact info was up to date with the University in an effort to get info. What a concept...personal initiative! I know I know...not your job. Could there be a bigger effort to gather current contact info by the University? Good gosh, yes. I can tell you that a recent IT project to fix a lot of IT and contact type issues has been on-going for a couple of years now. Things are much better, and getting better, but much remains to be done. Our grads could help UNT help them by providing updated contact info through the Alumni Association, Mean Green Club or their college. Question...do you have the same email address you had the day you graduated? The same phone number? The same address? Many recent grads do not based on the hundreds of email addresses bounced back to the University, the mounds of returned mail, etc. No, it isn't exactly a two way street here, but all our grads could help a great deal by updating their contact info...being a member of the Alumni Association and Mean Green Club would definitely solve that issue and no one has to be a six or seven figure donor to join either. This old "it's not my job" and "I am not a big enough donor" excuse stuff really doesn't hold much water. But, if folks just want to sit back and complain that they are never contacted and use that for their excuse for not donating, well, I really question whether they have any honest intent to donate in the first place. Again...the opinions expressed here are mine. Folks are free to hold their own opinions and donate/join or not as they please.

Dr. David Wolf, PhD from UNT by the way, is our new VP for Development. He has been here about 6 months maybe coming from UCLA. There is a new attitude along with new leadership within our Advancement division. Like Dr. Smatresk, Dr. Wolf is the real deal, and will help create a new and dynamic Advancement Division for UNT. In fact, it has already started. And, while everyone may have recently noticed, none of this happened over night. Lots of planning, lots of coordination. What you may not have noticed are all the new donor contacts being made by our Advancement Division personnel. Donations of size are no longer going to be a rare thing or exception at UNT. Administrators, Deans, Department Heads, Faculty and staff are all now aware that development is part of their job description. Results are being seen already. So, yes, there is a new leadership team with new and different priorities in place at UNT. Too bad some small minded people have recently decided to withhold support for UNT and its students and student-athletes just at the time new leadership is working so hard to re-invent how things are done at UNT. Sure, it will take some time and there will be some set backs and mistakes made along the way. Future change is hard, and even harder at government entities due to certain personnel, legal and other policies. Government entities are not as nimble as private businesses in initiating culture change...unfortunately. Some at UNT will embrace this change and prosper in the new environment, others will not and will need to move along and pursue other opportunities. There will be folks spewing bs because their apple cart has been overturned. All of which is to be expected in such situations. But, those unwilling or unable to change will be left out and left behind. All those who support UNT and see the bigger picture and are looking for UNT to become an even better and more well known institute of higher education should be pleased with the changes, but will need a bit of patience as the changes unfold over a period of time.

So, the incident trumps any other reason you might have for supporting your university and program? Check...got it.

Ladies tip off this Saturday against TWU. Free admission I believe. That would be, Saturday, Nov. 7th at 2:00. Come check out Jalie's squad and some of the upgrades to the Super Pit including the new and improved lighting.

Me to...just calling it like I see it. I think I told the player exactly what I "should have told" him. You can tell them whatever you wish the next time you talk with them. You try to convince them that it isn't about them...maybe they will believe you. I tried....no luck. Justify it any way you wish if it makes you feel better. Who was AD during the New Orleans Bowl run and the recent Heart of Dallas Bowl year? Who was AD during all those Johnny Jones years folks here like to praise so highly? Look, knock what you want, but we have had successes along the way as well in football and basketball...not just the so-called "minor sports". You here under the tenure of Helwig or any other of the AD's prior to RV?

I see the post hit home for you. Sure some do, but others step up and fill the void. That's why they are "big time". Not so with the so-called fan base at UNT. Several here seem to be painting themselves into a corner that will be very difficult for them to personally remove themselves from once the situation changes. I apologize for no one here...my position has been, is now and will be to support the players through my MGC donations. Ask anyone who knows me well and some who don't and you can be assured that they can repeat that mantra all but word for word. Been here since Odus Mitchell. Not going anywhere as there were, are now and always will be student-athletes needing my support.....and your support. If you would stop seeing it...you and others...as "all about you" you might realize that there is a difference in supporting student-athletes rather than individual staffers, coaches, programs, etc. But, hang in there...if you haven't painted yourself too far into that corner of yours, the band wagon will pick you back up on its next go-round. Heck, might even have a tee shirt for you.

Says the guy just looking to provide "justification" for folks pulling their support for student-athletes at UNT. One can frame it any way they like to help them personally feel better about themselves, but any way you slice it, withdrawing support for the Mean Green Club definitely and undeniably hurts student-athletes. The Mean Green Club supports student scholarships...period. At other universities, who many tout here as "big time" or programs they wish UNT would emulate, student-athlete scholarship costs are completely covered by donor funds freeing other funds for any number of projects, upgrades, recruiting, coaching salaries, etc., etc. to improve the overall program and to have the resources to stay "big time". Donors at these programs fund scholarships regardless of who sits in the AD's chair. Why, because they are "big time" enough to understand the significance of supporting the student in "student-athlete". The above quoted statement reeks of "small time" thinking, and simply provides another of a long list of excuses for those who claim to support UNT but cannot see past the end of their own nose. As one player asked me when he noticed I was looking at the GoFundMe banner site on my phone...."Why do they want to shame us like that"? I had no answer for him on that as he shook his head other than to try to assure him they were not aiming this at the players. He obviously did not believe that and neither do they believe that withdrawing MGC support is not directed right at them. They know what is said here and, surprisingly, more often than not who the folks are who say it. And, they take it very personally. Perhaps folks forget that these are still very young men who, as yet, may not understand the differences in what motivates people to say and do. Should they read this site? Nope. But, that does not change the fact that they do. Do all of them? Probably not. Do they share the things posted here between themselves? Yep. It is just too bad that folks cannot (or choose not to) separate their support for the student-athlete....many still the first in their family to attend college...from their dislike for individuals. It should be about the student-athlete and UNT. But, since talking about wanting to be "big time" is so much easier than actually stepping up as a fan to do what one can to help move the program toward "big time" status, folks choose to think and do "small time". It IS about the student-athlete folks...all about them.....all of them, not just the football and basketball players. Those toiling away, often under appreciated and playing before small or no crowds at all, need our support through the MGC just as much or more. Why one would pull support for these young athletes who do nothing but represent this University very well is really a sad thing and will accomplish nothing...nada...zilch...zero toward the "stated goal" of doing so. It really is counter productive. I realize this will not be a popular post with some folks...we can guess who they are without much danger of being wrong...and they will record their displeasure accordingly. But, sometimes looking in the mirror and realizing that ones position is nothing but an excuse is pretty challenging. When it is all about "if you don't do what I want I will take my ball and go home", well, welcome to the world of "small time" thinking.

No....this planned long ago. Every university I am associated with does this sort of thing. UNT started last year as I recall. At least it is the first year I recall this happening. For some reason I got two calls...one from a women's basketball player and one from a football player. Both did a great job and both were happy to chat for a moment as well. Very positive experience. I already had calls from Okie State and the United States Merchant Marine Academy...expecting Central Missouri soon. Ha! So, yes, good leadership from whomever got this rolling at UNT.