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If you called someone and said 'We need you to give money to UNT.' They will say 'Why' You cant just say 'Cause it's your alma mater' You will have to give reasons: what are those reasons?

Good point Mr. Strange. Do we wait to build the baseball stadium until our football program is built up, or do we just build a field that we can play on now and attract a few fans but we can now say that we have a baseball team? And, if we wait until our football program is built up we might be in a different conference by the time its time to start putting money in a baseball program. Thoughts?

Thanks Recman. Thats what I was wanting. Nice suggestion, I agree. We also need to think about future growth potential as well.

Why support their alma mater? Think BIGGER....

UNT IS a commuter school, I dont like it but it is. I lived in the dorms my Freshman and .5 my soph. year and I came from Austin. Why dont you ask your sister what happens on Friday's after class gets out...or does she not know because she is one of the 'fans' that goes home every weekend...The dorms clear out leaving about 40% of the people here on the weekends. It's depressing for those that cant go home each weekend. Trust me, I want that to change too. I agree. The statistics come from my good friend who works for the athletic dept. I do believe he is a credible source. He knew about TD and couldn't say anything before many people. I also was not talking about donations, I was talking about how the tuition pool gets split up. Good point. So do you think that a mere phone call is going to all of a sudden make the Alumni want to donate? It's not about putting the burden (if it is indeed a burden to support) on one person, its about sharing the burdens. 100,000 * 100 = $10M but also $50 semester hike * 35,000 = $1.75M. There you go. Nice projection. Have you talked to the alumni and asked them why they dont give? I recently showed my place to a man and women UNT alum and I mentioned that I was going to the last game DD would play and if they were coming. They said 'we gave up on NT football. We had never missed a game until this last season when we looked at the direction of the program and the lack of progress we decided not to go anymore'. I was able to try to encourage them a little but how do we reach these alumni? I'm asking because I'll do it, not to merely make a point btw.

I agree. But then again what reason does the Alumni have to give? To support what?

And still he says nothing...just bash!

Mr. Strange, I'll be honest, I haven't given a dime to UNT, other than for NTExes. And many of the Alumni that I have talked to haven't either. Why is that do you think? I am not bashing anyone, rather making suggestions for how we could further our ahtletic dept. Yes I know I know, if I gave that would help...right?? You're probably right but my donations are not going to influence or help even a little bit. I feel that many people, alumni and students, dont give a rip one way or another about UNT. I joined GMG because I thought that perhaps this is where the DIEHARD NT fans were gathering. And I wanted to become one with them. I am let down now as I feel that some (not all) dream so small for this School, if they even dream at all. We need to Dream BIGGER...I want to compete with the BIG BOYS, have national recognition, sold out stadiums, UNT pride. If UNT and other fans shared this same vision then I would write my check today. BUT they do not. They say be patient, wait, it takes time...Some want to dominate the SBC...I have been there done that with UNT and nothing positive happened with it. Lets take this ship further to see what she can do. I am sincerely asking: What do we want UNT to accomplish? Then ask yourself, Why do I want them to accomplish that? Then ask, Where do you all as DIEHARD fans want UNT to be in the next few years?

minus the 'Obviously' (dont know how that got in there)

Thats good then I will get the final word. So when you say that coaches will make UNT the dominant force in the SBC, your probably mean like a few years ago: Sat, Aug 31 Texas at Austin, Texas 0 - 27 (L) Sat, Sep 07 Nicholls State Denton, Texas 23 - 0 (W) Sat, Sep 14 Alabama at Tuscaloosa, Alabama 7 - 33 (L) Sat, Sep 21 TCU at Fort Worth, Texas 10 - 16 (L) Sat, Sep 28 Arizona at Tuscon, Arizona 9 - 14 (L) Sat, Oct 05 South Florida Denton, Texas 17 - 24 (L) Sat, Oct 19 Arkansas State at Jonesboro, Arkansas 13 - 10 (W) Sat, Oct 26 Louisiana-Lafayette at Lafayette, Louisiana 27 - 0 (W) Sat, Nov 02 Louisiana-Monroe Denton, Texas 41 - 2 (W) Sat, Nov 09 Idaho Denton, Texas 10 - 0 (W) Sat, Nov 16 New Mexico State Denton, Texas 38 - 27 (W) Sat, Nov 23 Middle Tennessee at Murfreesboro, Tennessee 30 - 20 (W) New Orleans Bowl Tue, Dec 17 Cincinnati at New Orleans, Louisiana 24 - 19 (W) Or perhaps the year after that: Sat, Aug 30 Oklahoma at Norman, Oklahoma 3 - 37 (L) Sat, Sep 06 Baylor Denton, Texas 52 - 14 (W) Sat, Sep 13 Air Force Academy at Air Force Academy, Colorado 21 - 34 (L) Sat, Sep 20 Arkansas at Little Rock, Arkansas 7 - 31 (L) Sat, Sep 27 Louisiana-Lafayette Denton, Texas 44 - 23 (W) Sat, Oct 11 Idaho at Moscow, Idaho 24 - 14 (W) Sat, Oct 18 Utah State Denton, Texas 37 - 27 (W) Sat, Oct 25 Middle Tennessee at Murfreesboro, Tennessee 33 - 28 (W) Thu, Oct 30 Troy Denton, Texas 21 - 0 (W) Sat, Nov 08 Louisiana-Monroe at Monroe, Louisiana 28 - 26 (W) Sat, Nov 15 Arkansas State Denton, Texas 58 - 14 (W) Tue, Nov 25 New Mexico State at Las Cruces, New Mexico 13 - 10 (W) New Orleans Bowl Tue, Dec 16 Memphis at New Orleans, Louisiana 17 - 27 (L) So what exactly are you waiting for? We have already had that success and we didn't capitalize on it, so what you are waiting to happen? The question is, if we get there what are we going to do next? That is my point, we have already dominated the SBC conference and yes we can do it again. Obviously

I would love something like this. Maybe a few more seats. But wouldn't cost too much and would get ball rolling on the program.

If they put a CVS pharmacy there I will boycott CVS.

Nice. Mabye you should watch your language there young gun. I know....truth hurts. blah blah blah What confidence you have in what you say. And Recless all I have heard you do is bash other people ideas. Maybe you could list some things that could be done. We dont need more blah blah blah, we get that enough. Yes that is all anyone ever does it want want want. Yet no one makes suggestions on how to get get get. Thanks for your call....next

Then please explain further as to why the Alumni are all of a sudden going to start giving to the University. See the problem is that the people with the money are waiting for a reason to give and other people are saying give and we'll make a reason. To get something accomplished we all have to be on the same page. Yes there is a little piece of the tuition pie that goes to each dept. Unfortunately right now the Jazz/Music school gets most of the money and that is the problem. Either we sacrifice some of the funds that goes to that program and face that maybe the program will dwindle or we raise $50 a semester per student. If you think that you can really feel a $50 hike, you're crazy. If you think people will transfer schools because of it, you're crazy. If you think people wont choose UNT, because of it, you're crazy. Those are our options. If you want to succeed it has to come from somewhere. And I still think that most parents pay for tuition but then again I forgot that UNT is a commuter school and probably most people work. But even still I think its probably a 65/35 split.

And tell me MediocreEagleFan what makes you happy? I am making suggestions to improve upon what we have here and I am getting reamed for it.

Why dont you just look at the few things that UNT boasts about. Pull a brochure and you will see they say they have one of the lowest costs of tuition in the state. Look at Tx. state, TTU, or the rest of the major colleges listed above. There has never been a tuition hike strictly for 'athletics' we raise our tuition when the rest of the public universities decide to. Recgirl let me ask you this. How are we going to establish a program if we dont invest any money in it? What magical thing is going to happen to make everyone want to start donating money? Exactly. Everyone wants something better but no one is willing to pay for it. Its a fact, if you want nicer things they will cost somewhere. Of course no one is going to say heck yes lets raise tuition, but ask them if they want a new stadium and a program that can compete they should say yes. But at UNT we have people like you which will say no because they dont want to fork over the extra $50 a semester to pay for it. I am so sick of everyone bashing someone for bringing up an idea of how to get our athletic programs to competitive levels. So next time you open your little mouth why dont you suggest something better??? And please give me an example of a school with money but nice fields and uniforms (if that even matters). Who cares if we have a nice field if we dont have a good program to go along with it and we're not getting the recruits needed? Man XX school sucks, yeah but they sure do have nice fields...and lights too. Bottom line, if your happy with where NT athletics are right now then fine, but if want it to be state of the art, its going to take money. Alums need to give and so do the students.

No your correct I have graduated. Thank the Lord. But when you compare the cost of UNT to other schools, we are one of the cheapest schools in the state. No wonder we have no money for athletics. Raise tuition a minimal amount and there is the money that is needed for new facilities. And you say that most students are having a hard enough time paying for school....we all know that most students parents pay for their school. I for one had to put my way through college and am now paying off my loans. Would I have minded a $5 p/hr hike in order to go watch a new baseball program or watch my school in a state of the art stadium? Not at all. Maybe if people knew what they were paying for they would partake in it. Please dont be so quick to the defense I was just making a statement. It's easy to sit back and just look at the positives and say everything is fine. But in reality they aren't. My GF is on the swim team Rec and I hear first hand what they think of the 'new' swimming facility. You say its getting the 'job done' and what job is that? When will UNT stop building things to 'get the job done' and start building things thinking of competing for the future? They were promised a place to compete and practice, a nice place. What happened? they added a pool in the Rec center, which they were prob. going to do anyway, the only difference is now the girls have a locker room. Which by the way is way too small. I love and support UNT but it seems for things to get better problems have to arrise. If no one addresses the problems then things wont change.

No I have not walked around denton lately as Im sure you have. I am glad to hear about the green pride, and perhaps we could all the shirts to be this 'kelley green' you are talking about. I mean not to be negative. I just wish a few things would change.

Oh but it can be changed...and it will. TOGETHER our Greens will UNITE in unison.....FOREVERRR

Much....thanks

I love the dark green, black, and white combonation. But why when you go to our home page do they use the UGLIEST green they could find? And it's different from all the other greens. Come on IT

OH get a room

Sales will increase if our gear looks cool or if our school gets recognized. If they could do both then we would be way on top, but for right now the easiest and fastest thing to do would be revamp our NT clothing line. We have to give people a reason to buy NT stuff. Lets face it there are cotton whores out there just waiting for some cool threds (clothes). If they look cool enough then they may pay more for it.

I always love it when people say this because I want to ask 'exactly what color of green is it?' is it the light green, forest green, dark green, or lime green? I think we could really bleed green if we knew exactly what color it was we were bleeding. (I would like to bleed dark green)

Ummm...of course he is going to say Yes we have a chance. Whats he gonna say No we dont stand a chance. I bet what we all hear and what his wife and kids hear at night are prob. not the same. What kind of coach would he be if when asked 'TD do you think UNT stands a chance against OU?'...TD:'Not a chance, lets go get killed team'