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really emmitt?? i am not happy when anyone drives drunk. hum... i don't get why we focus on SMU so much. rivalry?? yeah i get it. i may not be 65 years old, grow up in denton or wear funny hats but i understand what a rivalry is and that is part of what makes college football so great BUT i don't understand our focus on SMU. there are several reasons why OU/UT, Duke/NC, Michigan/Ohio State are great rivalries. one of the main components is the success that these schools have been able to accomplish. If Michigan had a track record of success like UNT, Ohio State wouldn't give a crap about them. this is kinda like the tortilla thing. just because you say it is a tradition, doesn't make it so, (hard to believe, i know) if SMU was a true rivlary of our school, you wouldn't have to argue about it on a message board... everyone would already know.

went to Riprocks... they had the game on 3 big tv's and the mavs game on a couple. they had the UNT audio going. the crowd that was there just for the NT game was decent. i would say that there was about 20 people there. the great thing though is near the end of the game when folks started coming in that weren't there for the NT game, they started wondering what all the cheering was about. by the end of the game there was probally 100 people (90 % UNT students) crowded around the tv watching. that is what i meant yesterday when i was saying that if you can help it, don't go to Lewisville or somewhere like that... the spirit is infectious

They mentioned last night on the post game radio broadcast that the team is expected to arrive back to the Super Pit around 3:00 today. I don't think that this information is set in stone but I wanted to get it in everyones mind. If you hear of updated information of when the team will be arriving and if there is anything planned, please post it. If you are in Denton and can make it out, go greet the team. They deserve it.

yeah they don't have things together over there when it comes to giving a set amount each month. here is my suggestion (or at least what i do).... set up your own plan. whatever i would give to the university every month, i set aside in to a special savings account and once a year i will write a check to the university out of that account. another problem that many of you have and you don't even know about yet is that they don't report your giving quickly enough to the development department. i.e. you want to give $1,000 to the university and be on the presidents council. when you give $500 to your college and $500 to the athletic department... the athletic department is real slow about reporting it to development. so although you are giving $1,000 it is only visible to development that you have given $500 (what your college reports).... the reason that i say you don't even know about it yet is because you only find out when you don't receive invitation to events, parking passes or other perks for being a member of the president's council and you find out this is the reason why. believe me after working in development at UNT for a while and seeing how this goes... if you can write one check, do it. if you can't, try to save the money yourself and write a check at one time otherwise keep a close eye on them

UNTFLYER- I think that meeting at Fox and Hound in Lewisville tomorrow night is not a great idea. I went last night and had a great time. This isn't a knock on F&H and please if F&H is the place to go for you guys, have at it. However, we are playing on national television for the first time in 20 years and the excitement is contagious. Go to Fry Street where you will be around other North Texas students. On a Tuesday night, I would venture to guess that there are probably dozens of students at Fry who don't follow NT athletics. Get around them, show your enthusiasm and even if they don't become Mean Green fans, at least they will know we are here.

i don't think that this information is correct. i called KDFW directly and they said that they were not showing tonights game. I also called the athletic department and they said that to their knowledge it would NOT be on Channel 52. i am not sure where Brett got his information but I am 90% sure this is incorrect.

damn it, i forgot to hit that "ignore" button. thanks, now i am dumber

that has to go down as one of the weakest apologies i have ever seen.... might want to listen to UNT_92_Fan and just let this one die

How was attendance for those games??

i don't think it is a bold statement. the reason why most students are there to begin with is because they want to go to a football/basketball game, act like college students and have a good time while supporting their school. they don't want to go to meetings. they want to go to games. are talons there to educate it's members soley or are they there to educate their members and then equip them with the tools to educate the student body? i think that is a key difference. personally i have never seen a "our traditions" presentation by the Talons to the student body. imho, i think that this organization is in bad need of defining itself.

imho... we can't have spirit groups that you have to "pledge" or be a "member" of. many zealous unt fans are members of other organizations (like SGA, fraternities/sororities... ect) and have no interest nor time in being a member of another organization. i wish that the talons would take a more active role in organizing all of the UNT students. i.e. i was a member of an organization on campus for 4 1/2 years that averaged 50 people a week at meetings and if at anytime someone would have asked to come to our meetings and take 5 minutes to talk about UNT athletics, getting out of the parking lots and trying to create an "atmosphere" inside the stadium, arena or whatever and this is how we would like to do it and we need your help... they would have been more than welcome to talk! all organizations have a responsibility to the university to improve it and one of those ways is to try and get it's members out to athletic events but this is not their mission and focus. a lot of them give back to the school in different ways. so when you have an organization like Talons whose mission is to protect the traditions and increase student involvement at athletic events, they need to take the reigns in reaching out. they may have a perception problem (who doesn't) but that can be changed with a good pr/marketing campaign. so i agree that we need to unify the student groups but believe me, it's harder said than done but when it comes to athletics... Talons has to take the reigns on this.... btw, i think it is pretty low to come on here and start bashing on them for some of their physical appearances. just a little advise; when you are trying to make a point and you immediately start demoralizing someone with remarks like that, you immediately lose 1/2 of the people you are talking to because instead of listening to what you have to say, they are still trying to get over the fact that you called someone a fat ass.

we are way to big of nerds for todd dodge

i am a huge fan of rv. i think that he has done an extraordinary job at UNT. this however would be my one complaint. when they tried to pass the student fee for athletics a few years ago, i was involved a lot in student leadership. they sold this thing completely the wrong way. i believe that RV would say that too. we tried to push to much to fast and turned it into the pro-athletics, pro-music debate which it is not. if you remember, we had just passed the rec center fee one year earlier, was coming off our best season ('02) and was trying to "up" the athletics fee partly under the cloud that it was to bring us to Title IX compliance. also, the vote was rejected by the students and then passed by student goverment to bring us into Title IX compliance. the mistake was made when they decided to pitch this idea to the students imo. nobody cared nor would have noticed if we wouldn't have asked. hindsight is 20/20.... we can not squander the good will that we have created with the hiring of Todd Dodge right now by either trying again immediately to pass the fee or just sneaking it in. give it a year, wait til next spring and then throw it out there again and package it together nicely. i think that the other important thing to remember this time around is how much the students at North Texas have really changed. people are a lot more prideful in North Texas than what they used to be. i think this is due a lot to the experience new freshmen receive when they come to the university through oreintation. also at the time there was no Matress Mac or Goldfield donations. the perception was that the students were going to take this all on themselves. get one more "big" donation announced, have an exciting season and throw it out there again!

that's incredible. i know we have waited a long time to be on that list. things are changing

"Oh my, Pandoras Box has now officially been opened, but you most likely have not traveled the same well traveled road many of us have since the 1970's, UNTSIG, and if you have, you may have very well been on a road less traveled. I know, pretty crazy idea there, too, but the book I hint about was pretty damn good read. Well, unlike (apparently yourself) I am no shrink as to determine what is crazy or sane when it comes to the subject of UNT or UNT athletics, but I will say we have had some pretty damn crazy hirings up there post-Hayden Fry (which was the era that I became a Mean Green fan). Need proofof those "crazy" hirings? Check out any media guide from any varsity sport of the last 25 years and you'll get all the proof you need. I know, just more craziness a-goin' on with that harsh fact that will even piss off a few reading it, but sometimes the truth really cuts straight thru to the bone marrow, now doesn't it? Ouch! (crazy response, I know). We Are A Product of Our Backgrounds? I am a disciple of Hayden Fry, I freely admit it and I've posted it non-stop much to the chagrin of those from UNT who have witnessed far less with their UNT experience. We've had many Fry wanna' be's in Denton but none that ever even came close. We each and every one hope new MG HFC Todd Dodge is our long awaited messiah (if you will) and that it Todd Dodge and his staff who breaks our multi-decade cycle of few high profile goals met and that he exceeds anything Hayden Fry ever did in Denton. Yet as most all know, that will only come if there are some impressive OOC wins, because doesn't that really seem to be the formula for mid-major coaches to get the Big Time U D1-A gigs, UNTSIG, or am I just being crazy with such a notion as that, too? Funny how one man's crazy can some times be another man's sane now isn't it? Is it crazy for me to even respond to your craze-themed post in the first place? Probably, but I'm bored at the moment and UNT many times has been many of our's comic relief in recent years. I am still trying to count (even with my terrifically bad math skills one of the Young Gun Alums says I have) how many past UNT HFC's are in the College Football Hall of Fame. Do you have a handle on that one, UNTSIG? FWIW, crazy as it seems.......I do. After all it was Fry's UNT success that gave him the golden opportunity to get an interview with Iowa and then get their HFC's gig in the first place; probably had something to do with the fact that some Fry-coached Mean Green football teams had some impressive OOC wins, ya' think, or is that just another crazy notion from an old fart NT alum? FWIW, there are definite reasons that this football program up until now (in many ways) is no further along (from a competitive standpoint) against those schools that many would call "somebody" schools (not SBC wussies) than since my (good golly miss molly I hate to say this)----my, uh, junior year at NTSU for crissakes'! Now it is totally crazy and insane for any college football program to have that long a drought, now isn't it, and for UNT to keep hiring those in the past who would see to it that that drought would only continue, right? UNTSIG, maybe you just might want to venture of few of your own theories as to why all this craziness has taken place at our alma mater for several decades which may have (in deed) driven a few crazy? We are who we are at UNT because of who we've hired post Hayden Fry era. I know, sheer unadulterated craziness with that statement, too, eh? PS: UNTSIG, I think the total number of posts I've posted on GMG.com suggests that I may very well just keep on posting about any damn thing I have an opinion on when it concerns a school that I, too, graduated from and one that I have personally sent 300 plus future UNT students to enroll at last count from my tech school recruiting days when my school was not their answer.........................I know, only a crazy old fool would do something like that. But have you thought of this crazy idea............... maybe it's you who ought to think about not even reading PMG posts, eh? Some who can't hande reality internet have already said they do that. Yet that could be a very sane-type thing for you to do if you can't handle all this unadulterated craziness you feel you are reading from my (and maybe even others) posts on GMG.com, eh? Funny thing is how many fellow alums have told thru the years that I seem to be mostly right on with what I have assessed about UNT athetics, but I am for damn sure not crazy enough to ever believe that!" can we mark this as evidence 1A?

i didn't even say WHO was crazy but somehow they figured it out.... note: if a person says "some of you are crazy" and you immediately think oh, he's talking to me... maybe you should just take a break for a while on this posting thing

this needs to be said.... some of you are nuts. seriously, some of you are crazy.

i am all about the high road but let's not get carried away....

i am not a SLC fan but after watching the game on Saturday night, I am a fan of Riley's. The kid is a winner. I think that VY has proven that no matter the circumstances, you can't teach that type of attitude. (I should also insert here that I really really don't like UT) Too small? For UNT? rethink that one. we would take a midget if he could play. Sheer size will run the UT's, A&M's and OU's of the world off but not us. Plus, he might have the knock on him that he is a "system" quarterback. Fortunately for us, it's our system that he is a good quarterback in. I hope that we land him. Anybody that can puke right before the snap, rise up and throw a bomb for a touchdown can play for my team any day. It is going to be a competition between us and the SMU's of the world. Woody showed so much promise early in the year and then the knock on him the rest of the year is that he couldn't learn DD's offense. Now, I am not a football coach but I would be willing to bet that Dodge's system is a little more complicated. IF Woody has a shot at being the man this year, he better open up that playbook now and start studying.

nevermind rick, i guess if you want to fight hard for TRADITIONS like throwing tortillas (it's hard to even type that without laughing) then i imagine "you won't get me and i suspect others like you never will" corey

"You still don't get it, and I suspect, you an others who think like you, never will." i fall in the "others who think you like" category. i hate the tortilla throwing "thing" that we do. to even consider it a tradition first of all is ridiculous to me. rick it's a tradition to you because you started it. congrats, your like the guy who starts the wave at a game. you did it once, it worked, now get over it. the bell, the cannon.... those are traditions. when TD is telling his players at North Texas to "protect the tradition".. do you think that it motivates them in the fourth quarter to keep those tortillas sacred? "let's win one for the corn" so the basis of my argument is not whether or not we stole it. (althogh the perception is we did) i am just saying it is stupid. there is no sacredness in it. i am not going to put it on my class ring. to herald it is a "tradition" is ridiculous. ps- next year i am going to take my jesus action figure, put him on the track and claim that we started the whole "touchdown jesus" thing

"That I would make the move and step away from coaching him," Dodge says, "that tells you right there how much I think of this job." Merry Christmas

not really feeling the whole conference alligance in the belt. i say go rice

i agree. i think that if we have 5 losses or less we will get into the NIT. the ncaa?? what was I thinking?