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Or maybe he wasn't Thug enough?

Clearly a hoax. The guy in charge is a former pro-wrestling promoter. I'm not going to take this seriously until they appoint John Rocker as the Commissioner. Then it's game on. Though, quite a few mascot ideas for some of the teams do come to mind. However, I'm fairly certain to list them here would be a bannable offense.

Great. One more example of moving an African-American player away from the quarterback position because he is not deemed to be smart enough and too physically gifted to waste in a cerebral position. Will this country ever learn? I hope Supreme Court Chief Justice Doug Williams will rule appropriately on this.

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What's the Safe Word? Also, it says the video has been removed due to terms of use violation. Must have just missed it. Any other links out there?

What. You're not looking forward to the new format for the 2012 Presidential Election Debates?

So you are saying that Dodge has vowed to never stop looking for the man that ran off all of the tight ends/fullbacks from the roster?

Here's a picture of a lot of Mean Green Fans about three years ago. Who knew we'd be in this state now:

I might have some vaguely liberal notions on some issues, but when it comes to the gender double-standard in society, I am all about being on the winning team. Go Patriarchy!

I thought the issue had to do with something being removed.

Nick Cage has a lot to redeem himself for recently. This just might do the trick!

That's a true statement in a larger sense than I think you intended it. I think I agree with this in a general sense, just not solely to the issue of sex reassignment surgery. The latest hub-bub over Harry Reid getting a pass for his stupid remarks makes this point. I would also wonder whether if, say, a City Manager was revealed to have a serious gambling addiction, he/she would be submitted to a psychological evaluation to see whether he/she is fit to handle the taxpayers' money. I can't say I agree with your assumption that this person's choice is symptomatic of a larger psychological issue, nor can I refute it. I haven't spent any real time thinking about it, reading about it beyond my own basic assumptions. So all I have is an opinion and not an argument. But I do agree that politics, and political positions, is a fairly insular world, and that once in, it's hard to do much about people who demonstrate documentable proclivities that make them unfit for office. I think that's as close as we'll get to agreeing on this topic. But it was fun getting here.

By a long shot, the 1995 season was not a good one, nor worth consideration for the greatest season. It was our first one back as a I-A. A lot of the faculty were against the move, and there was a lot of concern too because we had lost some of the most explosive offensive players the year before (Maher, Silva, Brown). We went 2-9, with one of those wins against I-AA Idaho State (that needed a kickoff return for a TD and a late 98 yard run from Cromer to seal it). I'm still fond of it though. We got Oregon State to visit Fouts, and Mills hit the fade pass to Redwine to win the game. And as bad as losing was, it wasn't all that bad considering we had been I-AA the year before: 7-28 ( 3 - 8 - 0 73) Missouri 10-27 ( 10 - 2 - 0 12) Kansas 30-27 ( 1 - 10 - 0 106) Oregon State 10-51 ( 5 - 5 - 1 46) Oklahoma 24-56 ( 9 - 3 - 0 56) Nevada Reno 14-19 ( 1 - 1 - 0 100) Alabama Birmingham 7-49 ( 7 - 4 - 1 25) LSU 19-38 ( 8 - 3 - 0 19) Alabama 24-34 ( 2 - 9 - 0 113) UNLV 41-38 ( 0 - 1 - 0 0) Idaho State 14-57 ( 7 - 4 - 0 55) Louisville And as NTSUEagle mentioned, before this time, it was pretty common to have more people at basketball games than football. As bad as things are now in some ways, there's still interest and hope. I think this has to do with the bold vision of the administrators who made the push leading to the 1995 season.

I tiptoe because, as has humorously pointed out elsewhere on the board, I am a little shy and timid. And my overly pre-apologetic tone was really for others. This I can buy, even though I am not as sure as you are about deep psychological issues being directly related to transgender identity. However, holding people who aspire to positions of authority over large parts of society to very high psychological standards is fine by me, so long as this approach is applied broadly and not just to issues like sexual identity, etc. I think we have all, at some point in our life, met someone who had a deep-seated sense of inferiorty and it affected their ability to be an impartial authority figure.

That's fair enough. I avoided the analogy to breast implants because it seemed too obvious, but you make a consistent point here. In fact, I now realize that although I have no problem with sex reassignment surgery, I do look down on people who get these type of vanity procedures, which is ethically inconsistent. I either have to ease up on them, or apply the same standards to this issue.

First: Current Temp is Dayton is 20° F, Partly Cloudy. This place sucks, but I’m putting on a coat and hat anyway. Second: Thank you for making me feel better about my own enjoyable, juvenile misreading of the original post about whacking, johnsons, etc. I’m going out on a limb here into the cultural values realm of the Mordor part of the board simply because the last two posters are ones I respect even though I have differences with their opinions at times. You two are funny, and have a good logical train that challenges my own in good ways. This is nothing more than a feeble attempt to try and have a civil conversation about different ideas to come to a larger understanding of where we can agree and where can agree to be different. I wouldn’t try this with too many others on the board, and if this backfires, I’ll exit promptly, with apologies, back into my silly-only motley quoting of pop-culture modus to less annoy the general population here. Chopping off of hands and other extremities, this being about mental illness, pathology, and not about gay identity. Ok. Work with me. If it’s about having a problem with Gay identity, issues, etc, I’m not gonna argue with that. People can like it or not. Fine by me. I don’t want someone to get on my case because of what I believe. I worked hard to get to this state of faith, and don’t need someone else to tell me I’m a dick because of what I believe. I wouldn’t do the same to someone else. Now, here’s where I’m curious to talk. If it’s really about this person’s personal choice to augment themselves in a perverse way against biology, and not about them being gay, you’re making an argument based on biological determinism. We’re born and develop through a series of genetic factors (chromosomes as put earlier). To electively choose to change this is some type of affront. Against God, against nature. Doesn’t matter. The issue here is that we are individually monkeying around with processes beyond us. And, to be clear, I’m talking about elective choices, and not life or death choices like getting cancer treatment or going in for the periodic colonoscopy. If the prob with this person is that they electively chose to F* around with what nature gave them, and nothing more than that, how far are you willing to extend that criteria to judge other types of elective operations? I could easily make a lame strawman argument here about cosmetic surgery, boob jobs, pec implants, tummy tucks, and other vanity augmentations. Instead, I’ll go autobiographical. About three months ago, I noticed that one of my incisor teeth had been bent back slightly behind another. I went to the dentist about it. Turns out that, at the age of 38, my wisdom teeth are finally coming in (about time!!!! I need the help) and are pushing my teeth together, resulting in the somewhat ramshackle row I have on my lower jaw. Surgery is scheduled a few weeks from now to remove them. I made sick leave arrangements at work last week. Apparently, my coworkers had noticed the mess in my mouth and asked when I would have the follow-up surgical process to straighten out everything and get a nice smooth, clean smile, which would involve braces among other things. Needless to say, they were shocked when I said I wasn’t going to. Wasn’t interested in having a straight row of teeth since I can still chew food just fine. Now, I don’t want to be accused of reducing this issue here to a simplistic analogy, so let me be clear. I’m not saying that whacking off your tallywhacker (hehe) is the same thing in degree of augmentation as getting your teeth straightened out. It’s not. Much much more invasive. Agreed. However, if the problem with the particular individual under discussion is not about his/her gay identity, but against their desecration of their biologically-determined condition, how do your prohibitions against it differ from many of the less radical forms of physical augmentation that seem to be the accepted norm these days? And really, very very seriously, I’m not interested in picking a stupid fight here. You two are funny and informative for me, making me look more closely at my own beliefs in good ways. That’s the only reason I chose to respond. If this is not worth extending, cool with me and I’ll let it go, or we can take it up in PMs.

Nothing personal. I just hate Dayton. Let's roll.

Wow. This thread just introduced a new type of hijack. It's like a bunch of people got on a plane for a ho-hum destination, say Fresno. Not a bad place at all, but not exciting either. Partway through, a couple guys got up, took over, and said "we are in control now, and we are taking this plane to Dayton, Ohio." No one is happy, but few want to fight it. However, suddenly, a small group get together in aisle 27 and agree that "Not Dayton again! Everytime we get on a plane here, someone has to take it to Dayton. We hate Dayton, and we're not gonna take it anymore." They storm the original jackers, take over, and instead of turning the plane around back to Fresno, announce, "How does Cancun sound to y'all instead?"

Am not looking to defend the guy in relation to the original theme of this thread, because it is a big problem with me and I agree with most of the posts made in this thread. That, and I'm not one to usually get involved in political discussions here. However, keep attention on the real iffy stuff this guy (or any politician for that matter) does in regards to transparency, and don't get side-tracked by the silly stuff partisan media outlets fixate on to move print and get hits on their websites. He took responsibility

C'mon man. We're talking the big show, National Championship here. Remington Steele will kill Barnaby Jones tonight. Stephanie Zimbalist will run circles around Lee Meriwether. Not even close.

Don't wear sunglasses to the game, or you might get banished to a dark, small forum no one visits as punishment.

Wrong. It was the time John D. Rockefeller dropped silver dollars on him while floating in a Zeppelin.

There sure are a lot of ugly people in your neighborhood. Ooh, look at that one. Ow, my glaucoma just got worse. The president is a Democrat! Hello?

This one goes to eleven. Please oh please let this come to pass. Press conferences would be better than the games.

My brother and most of my friends from high school went to Tech. I've been talking with them about it. This is a textbook case on how not to handle a situation by all parties involved. Regardless of what actually happened and how it plays out in court, the students and alums (well, the ones I've talked to at least) feel that they've been dumped on by the administration (hence my edit above). In the court of public opinion, the Tech admin has lost this battle. According to one friend who still lives in Lubbock, there have been large, organized protests on campus. Even my mother, who really doesn't care much for Tech, went on a 20 minute rant about it. RV's little kerfuffle over the Dickey firing couldn't hold a candle to this PR mess.