Green Mean

He also knows the landscape of college athletics in this country and overlooking that is also part of his job description and whether he likes it or not he has to care.

I think it would be rare to see a college football HC hire for less than a 5 year contract so it would make sense.

It might not be the worst idea from a NT standpoint b/c imagine getting beat like this at home against them....it'll be 10x worse.

I think because if we can ever figure it out and know and understand how to run a proper athletics program then I do think anything is possible. I don't mean to say that there isn't upside here and things cannot change but taking out the financial part of things, the fact that this school hardly ever makes the right hire is just baffling. It feels that so many other schools with so much less are able to do so much more and it just takes finding and hiring the right coaches and program builders.

DATCU has never had a sellout. Attendance has ALWAYS been poor when you consider how many students and alumni we have. I don't think going to the game next week is going to matter because there won't be more than 15-20K as per the usual. The only thing that will move the needle is the big donors pushing back and/or we somehow find a few big rich ones that have even an ounce of desire to support NT athletics. Despite school size, market, location etc, NT is just in athletics purgatory. It will be the same thing next year...ticket prices and MGSF donation raised so we can try to keep up without giving the fans anything to really be excited about and another year of false hope that turns into yet another dud.

Even the halftime show guys are laughing at us.

True but I think if you take out the generous picks Morris threw, I think we would have really routed them with the score reflecting that IMO.

The Todd Dodge era had several games that would have been the most embarrassing lost for almost every other FBS program. But OU definitely sticks out, giving up 77 to Rice, I think Tulsa had dismantling of us which might have been in Denton and probably several more.

Serious question...if there's another 5-7 season, does Mosley have the strength to fire EM and/or does the athletics department have the financial resources to even do that?

Let's just spend all of our extra resources on basketball and become a plus mid major power. This is embarrassing by any measure even if we were playing Georgia.

I thought if game was somewhat competitive throughout that even with us losing at the end, it may lead to people being interested in coming to games for at least a few weeks. This half just killed any hopes of that happening.

I wasn't really speaking of the facilities and those areas that we have made strides in to at least catch up. I was mainly speaking of on the field results. If fans, students, casual Denton residents go to games and continue to see losses and more times than not being an butt whipping then it's not going to be good and make them want to keep on coming back. As I've been saying we just haven't had the kind of sustained success some of these other programs have had and that's why we continue to have apathy.