I realize that you are not very fast and loose with the term "friend." You seem much more eager to call someone dishonest, which you have now done twice to me--which I do not take lightly or kindly. I was using the term as a reminder that we share something in common (I assume you root for North Texas sports), and as an encouragement to shy away from the false personal attacks you have employed. My statement was that Mrs. Rodham-Clinton was using the phrase "it takes a village" in a way that put the government in place of the home. I realize that when I am talking to a Democrat such as yourself, I am likely talking to a secularist. But regardless of your personal views, God is the one Who established the institutions of home and of government. Governments are in place to see that order and justice are maintained within a state (Rom. 13:1-4). The home has the responsibility of rearing children (Eph. 6:4). When the government assumes that God-given responsibility away from the home, they have usurped the role of the home--even if the home goes along willingly. If you can show me where Coach Dodge references broader use of government to rear children, I will agree that he and Mrs. Rodham-Clinton used the term in the same way.