I was a student manager back during both Parker and Simon's time at UNT. I think you are both correct, actually. Parker was a high school coach who believed that high school motivational tactics would work with the college kids. The best example was how he talked at length of how his Marshall team got ready to play Permian when he was there and how he had pep rallies scheduled at certain times and how the team marched into the stadium arm-in-arm. Again, those tactics may have been great with 16-18 year-olds, but most of the guys we spoke with just laughed it off because they would even say it was ridiculous--that's putting it lightly. He could recruit decently as you mentioned with those guys that led us to I-A, but I can think of so many blunders during his time. The biggest one that comes to mind was in a game against Northwestern State in 1992 where he had Mitch spike the ball to stop the clock--on 3rd down. Thus, we were forced to kick a tying field goal with like 25 seconds left. or go for it. We kick the field goal to tie it, then he decides to kick an onsides kick which they recover and end up kicking the game-winning field goal to win that game. I won't even talk about our 72-0 loss at Nevada, which was still I-AA at the time, or any of the other massacres that we suffered against some of the SLC teams we played. His teams either got pounded or lost extremely close games. Either way, he was not a good coach and most of us knew it inside the fieldhouse. When Simon came in, he gave the team a fresh attitude--that quickly became stale. He worst on-field blunder was at OU when he was screaming to the deep snapper to snap the ball to Toby Gowin int the end zone--except that Toby was standing behind him on te sidelines. Thus the ball gets snapped into the end zone with no one to grab it. Luckiily, the ball made it thru the back of the end zone for a safety. This was how he could just lose it emotionally at just the wrong time. The straw that broke the camel's back was when he tried to keep the DRC writer from knowing about towel-gate at Utah State by having someone in the athletic department drive the writer to the airport in Logan, UT via a longer path because the police were waiting at the airport for the team, he lost ALL credibility with the administration. because the writer still found out the next day and this all became national news. He had some of the worst peoople-skills of any coach at any level that I have dealt with. His own coaches hated him, which is why when he was fired and when Dickey got ram-rodded past everybody, Helwig made Dickey keep those coaches--many of whom stayed for years like Mills, Russell, Leftwich, etc.. Simon's teams weren't competetive with fellow Big West teams or lower BCS teams, but he could get them up for a big game against one of the Texas schools--in part because he knew that could get him a better job, which he almost got at Kansas. As for coaching, we all felt that Simon was a much better coach than Parker, but Parker was 20x the man that Simon was/is. And, in the end, you really need to be both to be a successful head coach in college--which is why you are both right. And, why the university got the right man for the job in Coach Dodge. As I have said often, he and Kragthorpe were miles ahead of any other coach at UNT in terms of being ready to lead people and give them the proper respect and motivation. Todd Dodge will be huge here, even if it isn't for a long period of time.