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Where is the money gonna come from? Sure you can try the "reclassification" route, but there is still a cost if TDodge accepted the deal--whatever that would be. Here is the best hope we have--and I believe it is slim to none--that Dodge decides that HS Football is his thing and he leaves this all behind. Again, that probably isn't gonna happen, as in these economic times, a head coach at a big Texas HS will pay less than half than what his salary commands at UNT. If someone gave that kind of money up knowingly during these times, I wouldn't question their heart--I would question their mind.

I bet you that their basketball success gives their AD some more $$$ from alumni giving and attendance, not to mention NCAA $$, that makes our financial support look pathetic. Our alumni might be larger, but I will bet that the $$ given back to WKU from their alumni is at a much higher level than ours. Could be that Crennel could very well look at WKU and say that I can go home and win in that league sooner rather than later. The bigger question is who do we get and when? The AD is on record as saying that Dodge is safe this year if we are "competitive", so I am assuming that since we doubled our win output from last year, and the fact that he still has 2.5 years to go on his full contract, the when is next year at the earliest. The who is going to be the intriguing part--as I said earlier, this is gonna be an attractive job to someone if we pay a good salary.

In other news, it appears that we will all still need oxygen to breathe. Seriously, How hard is it to really write an article like this? Yes, it is extremely accurate, but this same article could have been written at just about anytime over the last 30 years. Even in the SBC championship days, we got a little more attention from the local media, but it was ALWAYS behind TCU and SMU, even when we had better records than SMU. The Metroplex fanbase doesn't even support TCU as well as they should and they play in a really good conference and have reached #4 in the BCS. The real deal here is that if you are not in the Big XII, the fans really don't care here in the DFW area. If you are not from the old SWC, the media really doesn't care, either. Here is the hope and this is what I would write an article about. UNT is building a new stadium that will be ready in 2011. The facility will match up perfectly with the other great facilities in the Athletic Center. The funding for the program will get a needed infusion from student fees and probably from corporate sponsorships and suite purchases/rentals. This will be an attractive job for someone.

I also think World Peace would be awesome, too...

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You'll keep waiting, trust me. This spare ain't gonna answer you directly on anything--unless it is how many mattresses are being sold today or how great things are in Albuquerque these days. He acts like everyone on this board is a Dodge apologist--never mind that for every Dodge apologist, there is a Dodge antagonist to match.

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The SEC is on record as saying that they don't want to play non-BCS schools in bowl games anymore, which is why the Liberty Bowl is not happy. I don't know how the Big XII feels, but I suspect it isn't far from the SEC's stance. There is just too much credibility that the non-BCS has to gain when they beat a BCS team.

Shhh..don't let this little nugget of truth get out. The media giant that is the DRC hates UNT, as does the Ciy of Denton, all of Denton County, the Metroplex media (all because of SMU), and the entire state of Texas, especially UT and A&M, which view us as the real threat to their status!!If we could just convince Bill Patterson to hire UNT grads only for sports journalism, in the same manner that our fine alma mater has only hired UNT grads for ALL athletic department positions, we wouldn't be in the position we are in today.--SARCASM ALERT!!! Look, Bill Patterson went to OSU. His parents went to UT. They run a business that caters to the local readers, of whom, 90% feel the same way about UNT athletics--pure apathy. They publish what the readers of Denton want to read.

The really sucky part about this is that the bowl games want the 6-6 team from the BCS conference over the 8-4 or better SBC team--see Troy in 2007. Its just the way it is, but the BCS ain't going anywhere. Anyone want to take a look at the teams that are undefeated and see any way both TCU and Boise State get BCS bowl bids? There is just no way--hell, Boise beat Oregon for the second year in a row and will watch the Ducks zoom past them in the BCS rankings. WHEN this happens, it will represent the second year in a row that Boise will go undefeated, be ranked high--as in top ten, and not get to go to a BCS game. And the worst part of it all? Baylor gets more bowl money revenue than Boise, even though the Broncos go undefeated and the Bears will not win a conference game this year. That is the most repulsive part of it all to me.

Am I the only one that is thinking that this whole scenario will not end well for the winner of these prized tickets and parking pass?

Seriously, you might be the worst poster on this board--which is saying something. If you think that RV would do this, you have been seriously misled. AGAIN, the AD has said that this year is ALL about being competitive, not wins and losses. NO chance Dodge will be fired this year, nor next year, if he wins 4-5 games. That is the from the mouths of the folks in the SIDs office, not mine. Shaft, you are delusional if you believe otherwise.

Trust me, you can go talk to same people in the SID's office and I would assume that the same story will be told to you, too. If that wasn't the stated goal for next year, why would you say it to a MEDIA MEMBER? Most idiots can usually understand this, but I guess this one is going right over your head. Maybe when you go to the AD to get that new coaching fund started, they will give you these facts. We all get that you loved Dickey--I figured he must have had at least one fan that didn't mind hearing him call fans MFers and go on an on about UNT being the worst job in America, so congratulations on being "that guy". The deal isn't that Dodge is better than Dickey, which seems to be your argument. It is the fact that NOBODY has had success here because we can't afford to pay coaches serious money and the apathy that runs rampant here keeps expectations low. You seem to think money grows on trees. Either you really are Mattress Mac, which would make sense based on your posts, or you have never taken one finance course in your life. People think that we can't afford to lose fans around here--I think that's wrong. The more I read your posts, the more I think that you are a troll or that you should walk away before the insanity causes you to do something criminal.

In no way am I saying that Dodge's record means he isn't over his head, too. Dodge was the OC for two of those Parker years so that may give you the answer to your question.

You are either high, an Aggie fan, or haven't watched any college football this year if you think TCU, Boise, or BYU would beat Texas on a neutral field. TCU would keep it close because of their defense, but the other two would get BLOWN out. They would beat LSU, too. I will agree, though, that Florida and Bama would kill them anywhere.

I thought you might find this interesting, shaft. I spoke with one my friends today that happens to be a media member here in town. Recently, he spoke to some of the folks within the AD about Dodge's future and what he has learned. First off, they talked about the learning curve that was really steep in those first two years on this level of play. Dodge admitted that he had to make changes to his staff and did so. The AD has said that this year is ALL ABOUT BEING COMPETITIVE, that the record is secondary--whether you agree with this stance or not, this is where the AD stands today. This is where your brain will probably explode and it doesn't make me feel better about things either at our alma mater, but the stated goal for 2010 is to win 4-5 games, with 2011 in a new stadium as the goal to make a bowl game. The folks within the AD have said that the MONEY is just not there to make a change now nor next year either. That isn't coming from me, this is coming from the folks within the AD talking bluntly to a media member. As I have said all along, this thing boils down to cash, as it always does. You can start a new coaching fund, but it better grow fast, because the university ain't talking about changes. BTW, the folks in the AD that he spoke with said that RV truly believes that Dodge will need all 5 years of his contract to get us competitive again. You all can take it for what it is worth, but if I were you shaft, I would either raise a lot of cash fast ot probably take a step back from the program. Otherwise, your sanity will probably be completely drained, if it hasn't been already based on your posts. As for me, this all really didn't surprise me one bit. No money means no change, at least for now anyway.

If the defense continues to play this poorly, I can assure that one win is probably the best we can get.

I, too, had 3-9, but I had us at 0-7 right now. I thought we would beat WKU and Army, and then beat either ULM or FIU. I still think that makes sense. If we finish 4-8, that would make some folks feel a bit better about 2010. I think Dodge will only get fired if he doesn't win another game this year. But, so far, sadly, we are where I thought we would be for 2009. That was just how bad we were in 2008.

Actually, Parker had a three-year deal and his AD, Steve Sloan, had resigned in the fall of his last season (1993). Craig Helwig came in as the AD in early 1994, which was amazing that an athletic department could go MONTHS without an AD. Anyway, he was here for about a month and fired Parker, who's contract ran out at the end of the spring or summer of 1994. He had no interest at all in giving him a new contract. We had no buyout of Parker to deal with, so we could go out and make a good hire, which is what we did--getting a guy who had skins on the wall, so to speak , with his experience as a D-1 assistant. The admin wasn't more uderstanding back then--they were lucky that Steve Sloan left the job and no one even wanted the job, so we left our head coach to hang out in the wind in his last year. Trust me, Parker was in WAY over his head and should have been fired when he got canned, but the lack of a buyout didn't pose an issue like we have now. To me, those last three years of D-1aa were the best examples of how poor a decision we made as a university to go down to that level and just how far it put us behind the 8-ball. We are still paying for those years today. Corky may have been great, but even with that, that entire time at UNT in purgatory may never be repaired.

Tech and UNT have a state that they share and they are both large public schools. After that, I see ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in common. You mention their conference is much better--when you have alumni that care and an administration tries to compete with UT, OU, etc., you get what they have. They have been very competitive with those schools, unlike another school that cannot compete at all with SBC teams. That location you talk about being so bad--well, it has allowed many traditional college students a chance to go away and have a true college experience away from home, which helped create a bond with the university and led to increased donations, unlike the commuters that dominated this school for decades. Not to mention that our location is so close to DFW, that decent conferences won't even look at adding us because the other universities in the Metroplex are already in them or the large alumni bases in DFW have it covered strongly. Lubbock might be a hole, but Tech has created an image that many HS kids like. BTW,I like Dodge and agree he should get another year--not because he deserves it, but because we financially cannot take the hit.

Best post of the year--no better analogy of what UNT is, why we are who we are, and what happens if we don't figure out a way to build something.

A few things: 1.) You say $$ is the only thing that gets the administration's attention. You are 100% right about that--which is why our Athletic Department has been WOEFULLY UNDERFUNDED for a university our size for going on FOREVER. Our alumni have never given at a level to get their attention--you know kind of like you are doing. So you claiming to withhold dollars to send a point is about as dumb a post as I have ever read. You realize that the administration would be swayed GREATLY by $$$ if they actually have it. Heck, it could even sway some music and arts BORs to pay attention to the football program if they had money that was ear-marked for athletics. Whether its you or a moderator that is doing that, you are hurting the overall athletic department, especially track, soccer, volleyball, tennis, etc. 2.) A new coaching fund isn't coming from a bunch of spares on an internet board. Oh sure, this board can get togehter to feed the team or do some repairs around the facilities, but they aren't going to come up with $450,000 to buy out a contract for the AD. Trust me, if they could, this program would be in the Big XII today--we would have never been a 1-aa team, nor would we be in the SBC. That buyout comes from the university's administration and BOR, not anyone else. You may get lucky in that next year will be Dodge's last year unless he gets us to a bowl game. The university cannot afford to fire him now, but they aren't going to extend a contract that ends in 2011, unless 2010 is a huge year. With the new stadium coming in two years, the increased revenue will help get the new coach hired and pay for the buyout of the reminaing year.

Troy 48 UNT 21 Probably not ready to really compete with this group yet, but I hope I'm wrong. A close game with Troy would really be a great example of more improvement in this team from the depths of last year.

The alumni and students follow the lead of the administration, faculty, and BOR.