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That's what we do...

Nah, calling out your ridiculousness and keeping you as the board's piñata is fairly entertaining...

Forget it, James329--they won't get it. These people like to tailgate and be with their buddies for UNT games. Apparently, that's all that matters. In the end, they all get what they want anyway, 6 home games going forward, with SMU coming every other year, as well as Army. We continue to get what we deserve. And then we wonder why 98% of all alumni walk away, never to be heard from again. Its just a travesty--I mean we beat Texas Southern at home in 2012, which sounds similar to Texas State, which is good because apparently the students don't know the difference in schools like these. I bet the lifelong fans we made from that huge win are going to really push this thing upwards in 2042 with all kinds of donations!! Same with last year--we killed Nicholls State 77-3--I bet the students that saw that game were just completely impressed and have become lifelong fans because of it!! Man, the 2040s are going to rock around here--we are gonna be rolling in the $$$ then. And this year, with mighty Portland State coming to town--and it being Homecoming--man I bet its gonna be a sellout for sure!! No telling how many more lifelong fans we are gonna get from whipping yet another FCS team--since the students don't know the difference and will probably think we just beat Oregon State instead!!

Sadly, after 14 years of RV, and decades of apathy, the only thing that will change is probably you not wanting to make that drive anymore. Nothing is going to change here on this--because winning and growing the program just doesn't matter enough to the UNT family. I hate it--it should be 100% different than this. Enjoy the game against Portland State this year--and Lamar, Liberty, Incarnate Word, and Abilene Christian, then...you'll have plenty of room to celebrate.

What is so bad about a 5 game home schedule every couple of years, especially if one of our road games is at SMU, which is basically a neutral site game? What is so great about a home game against Texas Southern, Nicholls State, Portland State, Lamar, Liberty, Incarnate Word, or Abilene Christian? If you say, its because we get to watch our team or because we get to tailgate one more time in Denton, that mindset is exactly why we have what we have right now, schedule-wise and AD-wise. In theory, we could've scheduled another home-and-home series against non-FCS teams, just to get a decent team here that is, at least, equal to Army and SMU--that's how low my bar here is for RV and scheduling. You don't even have to get a P5--get a G5 school from the MAC, MWC, or the AAC--just stop with the FCS stuff. Paying money to buy that FCS opponent here is asinine, especially if we need the cash. RV has the easiest AD job in America--and it ain't close. You don't have to win in revenue sports, you don't have to bring in more money, you don't have to increase the attendance measurably, and you don't have to schedule anyone with name recognition to Denton. All you have to do is keep tailgating open, schedule SMU, schedule FCS schools, and stay in budget and you are not just good to go--you get a lifetime job as the AD, making hundreds of thousands of dollars every year, plus great retirement benefits. At the beginning of 2013, before the season, I stated that I would walk away from this place if we didn't see solid improvement in the two sports I care about within 5 years--football and mens basketball. All of the bad hires and accepted losing from the BOR just had just beaten me down to a point where if I cared more about winning than they did, why continue? Well, they turned in a magical 2013 football season--the best I have ever enjoyed as a UNT fan. Because of that season, that told me that they did their part. SO I am here to stay as a fan. But last year's football season, lack of recruiting success, stupid comments from the coach and AD, basketball season, and keeping Benford, just reiterate the fact that you either accept it as it is here or you leave--that is the choice. We are all in the minority on this one--being the 2% that care enough to even follow the team. And the BOR and chancellor are COMPLETELY fine with that. If Smatresk cannot make any changes with this, that should confirm to everyone how little that winning matters here. And, again, if it doesn't matter to the ones in charge, why in the world should we expect the fanbase to even grow, much less give financially? In 14 years, the answer has been pretty clear, at least it has been to me.

Congratulations on beating North Texas for season ticket holders...how did that compare to Texas or A&M ? You should go to any of their sites and tell them that you had 15k in season ticket holders and that you scoreboarded North Texas. Oh wait--I forget--you can't go to some of those sites anymore--for being banned--even though you haven't played those teams more than twice since the SWC broke up in 1995. That seems perfectly normal--not insane at all!! May I suggest you go to UCF's site or USF's site or Memphis's site--since you play them every year in your conference. Because we have played you exactly twice in 15+ years--we really don't give two $hits about you guys right now--you know, since we don't play you guys anytime soon.

Its just a matter of when. They control the NCAA, the networks, the media, and the legislatures. Once they get the playoff up to 8 teams, that schism will be in full motion. They will be able to schedule each other more often, just to avoid the reality of a loss killing their chances of making the playoff. The money that will be there for those 65 teams will be huge. Some G5 teams will try to BYU it if they don't get in, just to keep up the idea of being included in the P5, by going independent and saying that they could get into the mix if they go undefeated. It would be real easy to see a Boise State, UCF, UH, and others to become independents again. When its done, that's gonna leave the remaining G5 and top level FCS teams to probably merge together. I have no doubt that several G5 programs will quit scholarship football, whether its immediate or over a few years. The rest will probably compete in a playoff system, too, just like the one that the FCS currently runs. If giving away this allows the NCAA Tournament and the College World Series to stay as is, I'd be fine with it. It would certainly be more equitable and competing in hoops and baseball/softball is much easier than in football. But I fear the P5s pulling it all away. Then leaving us with some lower-level tournaments to compete in that don't get anything close to the love and attention that the current NCAA Tournament and College World Series provide.

You've been around these parts for less than five years. Trust me, plenty of people in the last 20 years thought we played SFA, SHSU, and the old SW Texas State because we did for the previous 12 years. I think we are absolutely peers with SMU in the football world--but many old money types in the state and in the media do not look at us as equals... I promise you--we know a lot more about UNT than you do, even if you have been a student for all of 2 or 3 years now...

My CUSA predictions this week: UCF over FIU WKU over Vandy Arizona over UTSA Georgia State over Charlotte Mississippi State over USM Rice over Wagner MUTS over Jackson State Eastern Michigan over Old Dominion Tulsa over FAU Arkansas over UTEP Marshall over Purdue La Tech over Southern

We are out of that mess only because SMU moved up to the AAC. Imagine being stuck in the SBC right now. We 'd be playing Idaho, NMSU, ULL, ULM, Ark State, Texas State, Troy, South Alabama, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, Appy State, and Coastal Carolina. Man, I bet the crowds at Apogee for those games would just be packed by the thousands--like no more than 5 thousand.

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Oh I agree--but back a few years ago when Nebraska was in the Big XII, they did play twice at Southern Miss. Nowadays, they won't play anyone that is G5 outside of Lincoln, which is becoming an almost unwritten rule for a lot of P5s. About a year ago, Nebraska and Northern Illinois signed a 4-for-1 series, with 1 game in Chicago against NIU and the other 4 in Lincoln. But after the B1G Ten went to their plan of scheduling at least one P5 in OOC play, that NIU "home" game got bought out, meaning the series became NIU traveling to Lincoln 4 times between 2017 and 2023 with no return game. Nebraska just makes too much from a home game and need at least two, if not three, home games to pay their bills .Going forward, Nebraska's road games in the future are at Miami this season, at Oregon in 2017, at Colorado in 2019, at Oklahoma in 2021, at Colorado in 2023, and at Tennessee in 2027. The funny thing is that they do have a "series" with Cincy, playing them at home in 2020 and returning to Cincy in 2025. But that game may have two possibilities to why it was scheduled--recruiting purposes in the middle of your new conference in a big market, as well as the very real probability that Cincy will be a P5 at some point. There is no doubt that the Cincy game could easy get bought out if they aren't an opponent that helps them by 2025. Otherwise, Nebraska's home OOC games are the following: 2015 BYU, South Alabama, Southern Miss, 2016 Fresno State, Wyoming, and Oregon, 2017 Arkansas State and NIU, 2018 Akron, Colorado, and Troy, 2019 South Alabama & NIU. My point is that Nebraska is the type of big name that could've been offered something in return for a game at Jerry World or The Cotton Bowl, with games against a bodybag that might actually be more competitive than against Southern P5 giants. Now, that cat is out of the bag. Just to give you a few future schedules to realize that we cannot schedule any of these current or former Big XII teams now, Colorado plays at Hawaii this year and at Air Force in 2022 but they always play Colorado State in a series every year. Mizzou plays @‌ Arky State this year, @‌ UConn in 2017, at Memphis in 2021, and at MUTS in 2022 KU is booked to go to Memphis in 2016, Ohio in 2017, Central Michigan in 2018, and Houston in 2019. KSU plays at UTSA in 2015, but no other games at G5s after this. And OSU plays at Central Michigan this week, @‌ South Alabama in 2017, at Tulsa in 2019, and at Boise State in 2021. And, just for grins, Iowa State plays at Toledo this year, @‌ Akron in 2017, @‌ UNLV in 2021, and @‌ Arkansas State in 2025. At this point, I just want to see solid G5s get scheduled here--that includes BYU, who I actually think is a P5 name, but I don't believe that a P5 will come here for many reasons. They include the reality of a future P5 complete split, conferences mandating non-road games against G5s, and the AD that wants no part of scheduling anyone beyond the SMU and Army series at home, beyond an FCS game. I believe that Army series will either get extended or we will replace them with a series against Air Force, which will guarantee a lot of butts-in-seats...

If we had gotten into the SWC club, back in the late 70s, I think the following would have happened: 1.) Hayden Fry would've stayed. He was a Texan and would have loved coaching in the SWC again. 2.) We probably would've been a middle of the pack team in the SWC of that time, which is no slight. From 1977-1989, Arkansas, Texas, A&M, Baylor, SMU, and Houston were ranked highly at different times, and each appeared in The Cotton Bowl as the SWC Champion. 3.) It would have avoided our "death moment"--the I-aa drop. I don't think anyone with a straight face can argue that only SMU's actual death penalty precipitated a bigger fall from grace within 5 years of their high point than what we did from 1978 to 1983. 4.) Being in the SWC of that time, even when Arkansas left and Texas and A&M looking to head out, too, we would have ended up, at worst, in CUSA with UH. I don't think we would've ended up in the Big 12, only because we didn't have any political ties like Baylor and Tech had. But, and here's the huge what if, the Big Eight could've looked at the changing landscape and recognized we need a presence in the DFW TV Market, especially when Arkansas left to the SEC. North Texas would've been a great fit for the old Big Eight. They would've had nine opponents, so your league would have a balanced schedule every year. You get a huge TV market in a large alumni base for almost every single school in the conference, and you would have a chance to recruit Texas HS kids much easier, since OU and to a lesser degree, OSU, were able to do. Colorado got great when they started scheduling UT and A&M in OOC play because that was their way to getting into the Texas HS ranks--that led to some great recruits that got them a national title. 5.) We would be in the AAC today, at a minimum. And SMU, as well as probably TCU, would be in CUSA or the MWC instead. Old CUSA would've never gone after SMU or TCU because they already would've had UNT, meaning that they were blocked instead of us, unless we opened up the market to one or both of them. I doubt that the conference would have wanted that. Only the WAC had SMU and TCU together, and as soon as TCU got good, they jumped to the old CUSA, which then led to a jump to the MWC, which allowed SMU to get the CUSA bid. If we had been there all along, who knows how that would've transpired. One thing I do know is that the pure "give-up" of what occurred at UNT from 1979 until 1994 just haunts us. It basically killed the program in the eyes of so many in the state and area. Even today, a lot of people think of us as being on par with SFA than they do SMU...

I don't think that you're gonna have to worry about this bolded statement anytime soon...as in probably the next decade, if not forever. They don't because the venue is too small and they already play a game here in the Metroplex every year, sometimes even two because of TCU being here. SMU got A&M as part of a deal because of two things: they needed games in Texas to play since the SEC moved them away, and the Ponies and Aggies are still SWC connected. The Aggies never play Rice in Houston because of proximity to their school, but UT does because that's there only game to play in Houston every other year. Back when a P5 game could've been scheduled home-and-home here, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Kansas, Colorado, Mizzou, and even Nebraska could have been great targets, especially Mizzou, Nebraska, and Colorado, which all gave up their Texas ties for other conferences. And you cannot tell me that OSU wouldn't love having a game every year in DFW to recruit to and get their large alumni base out to watch when they play at TCU and then here, if it got scheduled. But we got SMU and Army and that was it--game over, schedule work is done, except for the easy part of choosing which bodybag to bend over for and which small-time FCS opponent to bend over every year. And tha's how you get to be #UNTADforlife...

I think we will see him, too, but unless Minimac gets hurt, it probably won't be until the Portland State game, at the earliest.

You just won the internet, sir...well played, yet probably dead-on in its truthfulness, too. #UNTADforlife

Yes, this was the low point as being a FBS program. Freaking SWC cellar-dweller Rice beat us in a game where they just literally stop trying in the 4th quarter--not part of the 4th quarter or most if, but all of it... If Bailiff had wanted to be a total ass, Rice would have scored somewhere between 98 and 105 points, even with their backups that day. It was a bitter pill to swallow, as we knew then that the Dodge experiment was absolutely, almost frighteningly, not working. When he went 2-10 in his third year, I thought for sure that his days as our head coach were done. To save $300k, we brought him back instead, so he could get another 1 win and 6 losses under his belt before getting canned...

Well, in their defense, Texas was just an unbelievable team last year...oh wait!!

Here's mine: What if we had beaten Memphis in the 2003 NO Bowl, which would have finished off a 10-3 season, including an absolute destruction of Baylor, and a 31 point loss to an OU team that lost in the national championship game and had beaten Texas 65-13 and A&M 77-0? I am fairly certain we would have ended the season ranked and Dickey would've gotten hired away, like he believed he would. I'd like to think that we could've made a good hire for the program, as well as to get the funding for a new stadium going in this scenario, but then I think about the realities of the situation, even if we had won and finished ranked, and I still cannot imagine either of those things occurring.

I actually think the shelf life on these P5s buying G5s and FCS opponents is less than 10 years. You've already seen some P5 conferences abandon FCS opponents, while others have made the commitment to only play a certain number of G5 opponents in OOC play. The playoff system, especially once it gets expanded to 8, will give these teams reason o be able to schedule even harder in OOC play, if they wish, because a loss or two won't kill them like it could before. But, to reiterate your point, games at Iowa and Wisconsin are great. Games at SEC/Big XII/ACC Southern schools are terrible.

Just on the schedule alone, a 4-8 season would be an improvement from last year, even though we finished 4-8. We just played 4 teams that were as bad as college football opponents as you could draw in 2014. A 5+ win this season would be a real good sign that this thing is moving back into the right direction. I still think 3-4 wins this year is where I believe this team will finish. Next year, all things equal, I'd like to us get back to 5-6 wins, and then be ready to have another great year in 2017, similar to 2013.

Most G5s face apathy, huh? I'll take the apathy in any other G5 place, on a per-student or per-fan basis, over ours any day. You'd have to know what its been like around here to understand the history. In the early 70s, we voted to get rid of football, but it barely missed getting dropped. In the 80s, we let the program get dropped down to 1-aa. In the 90s, we added 10k aluminum seats that are farther away from the field than almost any seat at Apogee just to get back up to I-A so we can get bigger paychecks from more bodybag opponents. In the 00's, we kept a coach on the sidelines for a 4th year, despite racking up a whopping 5-31 record in his first three years here. Not even one of those things happens if apathy doesn't rule the day here. If there's a next AD around anytime in the next decade, which I highly doubt, if they don't know what the hell they are facing in apathy here, from an alumni that is detached to put it mildly, to a local citizenry that doesn't give two craps about our program, to a student body that is almost trained to not give a damn about athletics by the faculty, alumni, and local residents, they will learn real fast how things work here. Apathy isn't an excuse---its a mindset. All of the excuses you hear all come from the biggest issue we have--apathy. Even winning in the 70s, 00's, or in 2013 didn't do anything to the apathy that has a stranglehold around here.

Maybe we can, but the closest I've seen us finish in a bodybag game against an SEC or Big XII opponent on the road was at Georgia, where we lost by 24 points and had the best team we have fielded in at a dozen years, arguably in 35+ years. Otherwise, I expect that we will get a huge check, go down to open the season, and get pounded. Anything above that, as history has taught me, would be just awesome gravy. Seeing 79-10, 65-0, 63-7, 56-3, etc.., .scores that I've seen OU, UT, LSU, and Bama lay on us.

I don't either, but I think Rice and WKU are like those road opponents I listed--they are just better than us right now.

I would rather us play a bodybag game against USC than this game. The Aggies don't need anymore T-shirt fandom from our students and alumni, nor do the UNT alumni need yet another regional bodybag opponent's fans to laugh at us for years. This game, albeit for $1.25 million, does just that. Can't we just play Nebraska or Oregon and have the same effect?