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I don't want to be in the top quartile of paying a coach in CUSA--I want us to be top quartile in paying a coach in all of the G5...and not have it hurt the salaries of what we can offer the other coordinators and coaches. I thought the Dodge hire in 2007 was a great risk/reward hire, but I was completely onboard with it. It just failed miserably for every reason imaginable. In 2010, I wanted Franchione, but I was fine with McCarney. But recruiting to an offense built for 1970 in Iowa while in Texas in 2010 obviously failed miserably in the end. He improved the strength and attitude of the Dodge recruits that got beaten down by losing, but he never could get his own recruits to pan out--mostly because the sum of the classes was bad to oh-dear-Lord-you-can't-get-worse-than-this.

He would be a great candidate to go after.

Committee is fine...as long as RV gets fired and has no input on this.

Just gotta make sure that the AD doing the hiring this time is not the one we have had the previous 14+ years. Otherwise, it's a moot point for most of us.

I wasn't there to see the Portland State fiasco, but if they did quit, as it sounds like, that says a lot about the entire program. They either knew Mac was gone and just laid down or they just hated him so much that they wouldn't give any effort. From the coaching staff to the players, that kind of quitting is something that cannot be tolerated by the alumni. Showing up for this week's game, as a fan, doesn't seem like a good way to send a message to the university's leadership about the current state of things. Anything that gives RV even a chance at coming back is a disaster.

Sonny Cumbie would be a great pick if you can lure him here. Good name across the state, offensive minded, and very successful as an OC. i do worry about the no head coaching experience previously, though.

you deserve this place...

Flyonthewall just reiterated that RV is staying. if so, thanks UNT for everything.

If true, thanks for informing us all. At that time, I'll bid adieu to this place and thank them for my degree.

sure, Harry...I'll focus on the future. If RV is here in the future, to hire a coach, my time as a UNT athletics supporter is over. Major Applewhite isn't coming here. He will go to a job much higher on the FBS totem pole. I said nothing about UNT not being interested in him or not paying him. He's gonna be up for high level FBS jobs in G5 leagues, places that are far more prestigious than we are. Go look at the head coach at SHSU. That's a great place to start.

Major Applewhite ain't coming here, folks... This is a job that is made for the FCS coach or Division 2 coach that has had great success at those levels with a strong offensive scheme and are relatively young.

RV has to go. If he is still employed here when a new coach is hired, I'm out. I said I won't be here if Tony Benford coaches one day after this season ends, barring an NCAA or NIT berth (so pretty much at the end of the season). Well, not knowing we were going to fire Mac in the locker room after the game in front of the team, if RV is even involved in hiring the next football coach, I'm still done, no matter who gets hired. RV has been a disaster as an AD. Tonight was as much on his ridiculous scheduling as it was on Mac.

i said we had 2.5 years of this Mac BS, all because we wouldn't buy him out. Thankfully, I've been proven wrong. This is rock bottom...nowhere to go but up or sideways from here. There is just not enough talent here to be competitive at this level, obviously. Hopefully, the next coach will pull off a miracle and begin to make inroads in recruiting Texas high school players that have talent to be recruited by other FBS teams. If we can, we can start the rebuilding process quickly. If not, we stay where we have been for the better part of the last decade.

Some great responses here... I fear Portland State's team actually breathing...that pretty much means they will beat us. I fear hearing that they are a "good team" and that we need to practice better. In closing, I just fear the UNT BOR more than any other collection of people when it comes to football.

You should really fear Ben Gooding, CBL...really, really fear him meeting you face-to-face this weekend. Everything else, except for a Tony Benford extension, is just Saturday morning cartoons comparatively...

I predicted that we would beat SMU, PSU, UTSA, and UTEP at the beginning of the year, to finish at 4-8. The only caveat was that if we lost to SMU, we probably wouldn't beat another FBS team on our schedule, that Portland State was our one win for the year. Now, even that looks questionable. I think that 2 wins is the ceiling here, but 1-11 seems most likely, with 0-12 very possible, more than 2-10 is, IMO.

I can't believe they have us at 8th--I'd be shocked for us to finish that high in conference play.

Well, if the AD had actually helped you on this front, it might have been a different story. Scheduling one OOC home game, against an FCS team that no one has heard of or cares about, doesn't exactly inspire UNT fans to come out, much less any of your neighbors or friends that have no connection to UNT. Hell, even scheduling a conference game that weekend would have been light years better than what we got. 2.5 years to go...

This was the high point of our return to FBS--probably still is. One of our best teams since Fry left, just annihilating an old SWC team in the Big XII, in front of the largest crowd ever, on a beautiful night. Loved every second of that game. It keeps me warm, when I think about our program for the better part of the 25 years I've followed us. Is 5 winning seasons out of 25 really that bad?//UNT leadership

This may be the worst going into a game since 1995, but the following account will hopefully make you realize its not as bad as it once was here... We played Northwestern State in 1992 on Homecoming--at Fouts---in front of about 10k (the largest of the season)---as a really bad I-aa team---with Dennis Parker, a previous high school coach, leading us. During that game, we were driving to either tie or go for the winning TD. As we were moving, we ran out of timeouts as we reached the 10 or 15 yard line, maybe even closer...when the QB looks over and sees Parker telling him to down the ball...on third down...with about 20 seconds left in the game...forcing us to make the decision to kick a FG to tie or go for it on 4th down. We kick the FG to tie it...then try an onsides kick...from our 35 yard line. They recover it, throw one pass to get to about our 30, then kick the winning FG on the last play of the game. That was when it was officially known that Parker was completely in over his head as a college coach. So glad we didn't hire Paul Johnson or Dennis Franchione instead, both of whom wanted the job at the time Corky Nelson got fired after the 1990 season.

Again, its so North Texas to have one coach who knows all about the passing game, from scheme to recruiting the pieces to make it work, but knows nothing about building up a OL to protect that QB or help in short yardage and red zone situations. Then to hire another head coach who is literally the polar opposite of the previous one. Run the ball over and over, behind a line that gets developed over time, but can't find a QB that your below-average high school would use to pass the ball. There's a reason we have won 35 games and lost 89 since 2005...when you cannot get a coach here that knows how to coach a wide-open offense that can also move the ball effectively in short yardage (not handing the ball off seven yards behind the LOS on third and goal from the two). And that record is more than likely going to be 35-97 by the end of this season for the last ten years.

That was the day that Darrell Dickey fell off the UNT Mountain top--the reality that other regional mid majors were way past us and that our SBC dominance would soon end in the coming weeks hit us right between the eyes starting on that afternoon.

Even if we kill Portland State, that Thursday crowd will be sparse...in the other times we have played WKU at home, they bring about 50 people with them. Even if they brought 500 with them, it won't make up for the difference. That game may be announced at over 12k, but I doubt there will be anywhere close to that many in actual attendance...

Well, if you don't mind, tell Randolph and Mortimer (and anyone else) that we would like to start Trading Places with our current personnel...