untjim1995

I've been looking for that same coach for the last 25+ years...the reason we can't be one of the greats is fairly simple: the culture here doesn't want it to be great--many of the voices from the alumni, students, faculty, administration, and the local citizenry openly disdain the program's existence. If you can get that mindset to change even a little bit to be more pro-athletics, the sky would be the limit here. But, except for Hayden Fry's later years here in the late 70s, nobody has ever led us to a higher level.

A mass exodus is getting closer to occurring, Neal Smatresk...

Don't be surprised if an eagle's head ends up in your bed...wrapped in a gently used Jimmy John's wrapper.

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Be careful, UNT90...you're gonna be on the hit list of the UNT17--they're gonna protect their friend at all costs (literally)...

So embarrassing...on so many levels, just as bad as it can get for a school that is supposed to be a FBS program. The entire program needs a Mean Green enema at this point. The AD needs to be replaced, the head coach needs to be hired from far away from Denton, and the whole lot of coaches on the staff, as well as a huge chunk of the players need to go. Once you quit, you'll always quit--and let others around you see that quitting is acceptable.

UH has one P5 conference to join--and its remote, at best--the Pac-12. The Pac-12 needs a Texas presence, but won't take anyone but UT for academic reasons (Tech) or social reasons (Baylor). UH is now Tier 1 academically, IIRC, and would give the Pac-12 the chance to get all of the state's subscribers for their Pac-12 network, without waiting for the Big XII's GOR to expire in 2025. It wouldn't be that inconceivable to see the Pac-12 invite UH and another non-P5 team that brings a good sized western market for cable subscribers, like UNLV. That would give them TV sets in California, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, and Texas, all before 2025. But I don't think the Pac-12 wants to expand anytime soon. The Big XII would be even more DOA if they added UH to their conference. No added TV market or added recruiting benefit. If the Big XII expands, which I now think it won't--it would add Cincinnati to the east and BYU. But the split of the TV money to lower the pie for the other ten Big XII schools is an ender. I do feel for UH--they have the size, academic prestige, and TV market to help conferences, but the Big XII future implosion will give the other Power Conferences better recognized programs to pull their way in the next shuffle. I still believe that UH will join Baylor, TCU, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa, and others in a new Big XII conference, but it won't be a power league. It will look like the American Athletic Conference after the Big East split for hoops. And it will be a really good league for G5s: TCU, SMU, Baylor, UH, Tulsa, Tulane, Memphis, Cincy, K-state, and Iowa State. I could see them even adding UTSA and UTEP, as well. CUSA would just replace those two, if that happened with NMSU and Texas State.

We will score more than we have all year, but we have no ability to stop WKU's offense. WKU 65 UNT 31

The guys on this team aren't exactly selling themselves as being a high-character group over the last 5 days...

And there's a 100% chance that rows at Apogee will be even easier to stretch out across in 2016...

At this point, anything to win a game might be accepted...

TCU had the two main advantages of having money and the old SWC pedigree to bring in good coaches and get good recruits. IIRC, LaDanian Timlinson chose TCU over UNT, even before Fran got there. Once they got good, Ft. Worth's civic pride in TCU really came out--supporting them with decent to really good support as the years went forward. With Boise, they took advantage of their location and the fact that they had no competition for fans in that location, which is a decent size town. They scheduled smartly for becoming a winner, then did something that few G5 teams ever do--they played and beat P5s wherever they played them. To me, the programs to look at and try to emulate are at UH and Fresno State. Get solid recruits that want to play near their homes, then win games against teams people have heard of and care about beating. For us, that means winning OOC games against FBS opponents and our Texas/Louisiana conference mates. Nobody cares in DFW about beating eastern schools in the SBCUSA, even if they are really good sometimes (see FIU, MUTS, or WKU). But DFW does pay attention when we get punched by a really bad SMU team or get bought by P5s every year to play "Drop the Soap" at their stadiums. I know UH has a higher pedigree for sports and academics right now, since they have money, but I still think we could mimic them if we can get a good hire.

This has to be a sock...I'm going with a new TFLF sock puppet. If not, your kid needs to get suspended for being socially stupid to post this at this time. But again, you're a sock, so I'm not talking to anyone connected to Carlos Harris...

I really don't think Mac looked at this job as a retirement gig from a recruiting standpoint. He just sucked at it, mostly because of the offense he stubbornly ran here. Again, fromt he high school coaches I've talked with, they really liked McCarney--they told me they thought he was a very positive and motivating guy that understood their career...but his offense was one that they couldn't relate to and their kids didn't know how to play anymore. That offense was viewed as boring and a bad fit for recruits. That mindset eventually affects recruiting of all aspects of your team because kids see who is going where and where they aren't going. The next coach has to understand the spread offense, run some form of it here, and help Texas HS coaches and the recruits understand that we now play an offense that resembles the one that 95% of high schools in this state run. Whether its an assistant coach or a previous head coach, its imperative we do that. The biggest problem, though, is that the talent here won't fit real well with that spread offense. But we saw that Dodge was able to take Dickey's Buick offense and get the offensive numbers up very quickly--it will take something very similar here in 2016 for us to see marked improvement on that side of the ball.

He'd be a good candidate, if he'd be interested in the opening.

Turner Gill did nothing with Mangino's recruits. He was gone after two years. But I'd be ok with him as a solid candidate. Mangino built that thing up from rock bottom--and it was rock bottom--to winning a BCS game in the 2007 Orange Bowl over Va Tech, finishing #7 in the final AP poll. I don't think Mangino will get a fair chance to be a head coach again, just because of his harsh personality and his obese frame, which is cause for anyone to feel comfortable in offering him a long-term contract for health reasons alone.

I haven't heard anything new on him being fired in the last few days. Has the UNT17 made it clear that he stays or else they go? We know how flyonthewall feels, but I wonder if the other 16 are in full agreement with him on RV, as well...

If the players did collectively decide to quit before this game, forcing the hands of the university to make the change at head coach, doesn't it reinforce that this team's character--this is directly on the players now--is about as poor as you can get? I mean, Mac needed to go--no question about it, if you lose an entire locker room, basically, you can't coach another day. But that collective decision just cost the university $3 million dollars. To me, whoever gets this job next, has carte blanche to basically run off whoever he wants at this point. You can argue that every new coach gets that benefit, but sometimes, we see fans get upset when a new coach comes in and lets go of some of the guys that were on the team before. What I'm saying is that the new coach shouldn't hear one word from any of us when he lets go of the folks on this team that have proven they will quit when times get tough. Players get full scholarships and now COA--they are basically quitting on their employer and the alumni who support them. It won't bother one iota if the majority of this bunch got run off by the next coaching staff--and hopefully, a new AD to support them.

Man, I was so hoping to hear that Ben Gooding and you met face-to-face... This past Saturday really was the low point for gmg.com posters...

venables is a great recruiter for P5s, but that's a recipe for disaster to try and get a guy who has mainly seen how big to giant P5s run their programs.

I'm one of them--if RV stays, I'm gone...

Rivals had us ranked dead last in 2014. Last year was our best recruiting class under McCarney--and we finished 90th

I think we score more points this week than we have all year, but still get drilled. WKU--65 UNT--31

In other news, we need oxygen to breathe...

wow...smh