untjim1995

Really??

This is dead-on...we have great programs to recruit players here, as well as terrific facilities and a solid conference setup. The only thing that I think I would disagree on, though, has been, historically, our location hasn't helped us at all...I think it has been a detriment, actually. The SWC owned DFW for so long that even after they broke apart, the leftover schools in DFW still got attention at a much higher level than we got. Of course, TCU left us all in the dust, but SMU always got higher level recruits and media coverage from the local media. In so many ways, our connection to DFW and the ways that Denton has not supported our program have really hurt us in the eyes of many. Obviously, winning could change this view in the eyes of recruits and fans, but it will always be tougher just because we are viewed as third in the DFW market, much less within the state. Right now, if you are a high school recruit, the best attribute that UNT has going for it is playing time. If you want to play in the first couple of years you are on campus, you can do that here. And you will get to play games closer to home than SMU will play, even when we play on the road. You get 5-6 games in Denton, with trips to Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, Ruston, and Hattiesburg, as well. Your family can easily come see you play, especially if you are getting to actually play in your freshman and sophomore years.

Dooley is very interesting--local guy, coaching WRs for the Cowboys. Good run at La Tech, but couldn't hack it in the SEC, which is nothing to be ashamed of. Might even keep him from ever getting any interest from that level again. But maybe he is a good coach for the G5s, basically a George O' Leary or Skip Holtz type of coach...

I'd imagine that the band director would get heavier scrutiny here than the head coach of football gets... As for Saturday game days in Denton, on several occasions, I've had people who are buying tickets in front of me at the ticket gate ask for the best tickets to watch the halftime performance, that they are staying around until the band is finished with its halftime performance. As we like to say, only at North Texas...

After hearing RV talk about his success as the AD here, this Travis Tritt song comes to mind: Here's a Quarter, Call Someone Who Cares

Looks like I'm a day late, but I have to give checkfacts her due...Ben Bading wasn't that bad of a username choice...

you gotta draw a line in the sand at some point...

This guy will have a B1G job in 2016--Someone will hire him away from Toledo to go to a place like Illinois. We need to really look at someone who wants to be a head coach and has had success recruiting Texas kids while having some success at stops along the way that aren't all P5 giants as their only places that have shown achievement. That said, if RV is doing the hiring, we are getting a name candidate that people have heard of as an assistant at a Big XII or SEC school, but have no clue how to handle the cultural issues that surrounds this place. Until the day I die, I'll be forever convinced that McCarney either had no idea how difficult it was going to be here to get support he thought he would get or he flat out ignored the warnings he was given before taking the job. Either way, it eventually crashed down because of the realities of the UNT culture of apathy. Benford has had no idea how to deal with it over at the Super Pit and I doubt he ever had any experience in dealing with this kind of situation at Texas Tech or Marquette. Whoever RV hires will probably be the exact same way that Benford has been, just hiring him because people will have heard of him from a run at the P5 school he will most likely come from.

This isn't embarrassing at all, RV!! Keep it up, big guy!! You're killing it, alright...just killing it--fanbase, reputation, any chance of hiring anyone with half a brain ... Such a proud moment yet again, here in October. Way to go Armadillos!! You can cross that highway with traffic coming--just keep your head down and ignore every possible bit of reality that surrounds you, RV!!

Harbaugh was using us for interview experience. His salary demands were said to be in the $450k or more range, which at the time, was about 50% higher than what we paid Dodge. Harbaugh got hired by Stanford later that winter...he was never coming here. Fisher could've been had, though.

The real problem lies with the people who made the tile and the grout that he was forced to work with. Nobody could do a better job, certainly, with such shitty products...never mind that the installer was the one who actually chose the company that provided him the tile and grout because it was a "value"...

don't forget about Lamar, too!! Im only 25 years in, Meangreenbob, but RV keeping his job after all of this, much less getting to make another hire, it just adds up to being time to leave it all behind. you never say never, but the history of this place suggests we aren't going to be coming back anytime soon, either. They won't want us back, nor will they give us a product that pulls us back, either.

I grew up there in FW...that's probably who I will gravitate toward, just because of ease to games and actually watching a product that a college football fan would want to watch. Plus, my dearly departed buddy, Richard Durrett was a TCU alum and I would like to take his kids to games that they would've gone to with their dad.

I think they already are doing this by making sure that not only does RV keep his job, he will now actually make the hire himself, apparently... Its kind of ironic--sort of like when rioters burn their own neighborhoods down..."I'll show you how mad I am at this by letting the guy who made these colossal failing hires choose ANOTHER one." In the end, it's their time and money that gets wasted...not ours. it's a shocking thought, huh??

It's funny--as soon as the banner gets funded to fly at the next game, fly comes running on here to tell us what a mistake this is, then RV tells the school's paper that he will make another hire by himself. It's almost as if RV gets to do this because the BOR, Smatresk, and the UNT 17 want to prove their point on who makes the decisions around here. What none of these geniuses get is that we finally get the final confirmation from this place that our fandom and our dollars aren't wanted or needed, so we get to move on. Have an awesome time watching UNT play great home games next year with SMU, Liberty, Southen Miss, La Tech, Charlotte/Old Dominion, and a F_U...we will somehow find something else to do and somewhere else to cheer on, college or pro... I suggest naming sections at Apogee and the Super Pit after each member of the UNT 17 and the BOR. They own the place, apparently...I just want the Rick Villareal Athletic Department overlooking the Darrell Dickey Practice Fields to become a reality in the future, just to perfectly sum up this place's history in a way that no words or headline could say any better.

We have gotten what we deserve...for decades and apparently still today. When winning isn't your number one priority, you won't get decent support. Without decent support that is shown by attendance, nothing is sustainable. And without decent support, you create no advantage to attract and keep talent. The AD has overseen our university win 36% of the games played in his 15 years on the job for revenue sports. That counts several FCS wins and Division II wins...and it includes a record-breaking ass-raping at home against an FCS program, as well as a neutral court loss to a Division II team with the most talented and heralded team we have probably ever run out on to the basketball court. Im simply amazed that some of these big money donors made any money in their businesses...they sure as hell wouldn't have with a guy like RV overseeing their operations and accomplishing similar "results"... oh well...its been real

That UTSA loss was tough, for sure. The opener at Texas last year was very disappointing, too. I thought we might see a better game, but that's when it became real clear that having a QB above the FCS level here was not going to be in the cards...

I gotta give it to you, you found a solid candidate...I still think Stull's record of suckitude isn't RVs in the three main sports, but its not very far.

Name one other AD who would have kept his or her job with a record like this and a graveyard of coaching hires like RV has made. I'll wait for the answer...

I wish you read something recently that said we were looking to upgrade our athletic director soon...

No it won't...in part, because Benford has already failed miserably, just as Shanice Stephens did, just as Mike Petersen did, just as Todd Dodge did, and just as Dan McCarney did, and he is still here because it either costs too much to fire him since we have spent over $2 million dollars this year alone to get rid of two of those hires, with another firing soon to occur at some point in the next 6 months, OR because his buddies on the BOR and within the UNT 17 won't let him get fired, which is even worse...

I think we can add a new number one to this list...if not more. FCS Portland State 66--FBS North Texas 7--record breaking loss, leading to head coach getting fired after the game, and leading to countless jokes about being the North Texas State Armadillos by Chip Kelly and the media. The lowest point that a school who is classified as FBS has ever reached...

I will say this...knowing this place, we will hire someone who will make RV look like Deloss Dodds if he got fired here. But I'd take the chance...

I can help you with these answers, UNT90. Nothing will happen to RV if he keeps Dodge for the next year...or year after...or when he hires the next coach and he gets fired after losing in the biggest loss ever by a FCS squad over a FBS school on our Homecoming. Especially since he has had great facilities built under his watch and opened up Tailgating!! And when he schedules the huge college football powerhouse SMU for a 12 year series in a new stadium, he is gonna just be golden. His legacy will be #UNTADforlife and for having cultivated something like, oh, I don't know, 17 big money donors that will basically run the place and keep RV around as their best friend. I just hope that he never has to replace Johnny Jones with some unqualified recruiter to be our head coach and keeps him around for 4 years or more...I bet that never happens, though.

Look, a banner flying over a stadium calling for a change at the AD helm isn't affecting one recruit's decision to consider UNT, one way or the other. If it does, then he better look at FCS schools, because this kind of stuff happens everywhere. I remember being at games in Austin when planes were flying around that said "Dump DeLoss and Flush the John" back in 1997. This stuff happens at lots of places that are higher up the FBS foodchain than we are. Whoever gets this job is going to really, really, really want a head coaching job. He is going to inherit a very below average roster that isn't geared to any kind of wide-open offense, an AD that doesn't have a clue on how to effectively run an athletic department at this level, a fanbase that has been dropped kick down so much that it probably will start off well below the levels that Dodge and McCarney enjoyed, and a recruiting hole that appears to be miles deep with Texas HS coaches, parents, and recruits as compared to every other FBS team in the region. Its gonna take a while to build up from this dumpster fire. That's how little developed talent is here, especially on the lines, which was supposed to be McCarney's specialty. And I am still not convinced that the starting QB for 2016 is anywhere near this team right now, including Damarcus Smith. I don't see how anyone can be convinced that he can be counted on, both on and off the field, with the issues he has had with eligibility and running an offense, both here and previous stops. It really wouldn't surprise me to see Dillman get lots of praise from a new coach, either, as an option at QB. This is a team that has shown it will quit when things get tough, to a point that you get beat in a record fashion by a FCS school. Next year, if we get Old Dominion, Charlotte, and an F_U from CUSA East, as well as playing Liberty and SMU at home and at Army, the schedule should be easier than this year, especially if we get this crazy thing called a bye week in the middle of the season at some point. But to think we will just turn this thing around to win more than 3 games next year is probably homerish. I truly believe we will go 0-12 this year, but 1-11 is possible. If we can just get back to winning 3 games next year, it would be a step in the right direction. Anything more than that would seem, to me, outrageous with the current roster and our recruiting situation.