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You should really fear Ben Gooding, CBL...really, really fear him meeting you face-to-face this weekend. Everything else, except for a Tony Benford extension, is just Saturday morning cartoons comparatively...

I predicted that we would beat SMU, PSU, UTSA, and UTEP at the beginning of the year, to finish at 4-8. The only caveat was that if we lost to SMU, we probably wouldn't beat another FBS team on our schedule, that Portland State was our one win for the year. Now, even that looks questionable. I think that 2 wins is the ceiling here, but 1-11 seems most likely, with 0-12 very possible, more than 2-10 is, IMO.

I can't believe they have us at 8th--I'd be shocked for us to finish that high in conference play.

Well, if the AD had actually helped you on this front, it might have been a different story. Scheduling one OOC home game, against an FCS team that no one has heard of or cares about, doesn't exactly inspire UNT fans to come out, much less any of your neighbors or friends that have no connection to UNT. Hell, even scheduling a conference game that weekend would have been light years better than what we got. 2.5 years to go...

This was the high point of our return to FBS--probably still is. One of our best teams since Fry left, just annihilating an old SWC team in the Big XII, in front of the largest crowd ever, on a beautiful night. Loved every second of that game. It keeps me warm, when I think about our program for the better part of the 25 years I've followed us. Is 5 winning seasons out of 25 really that bad?//UNT leadership

This may be the worst going into a game since 1995, but the following account will hopefully make you realize its not as bad as it once was here... We played Northwestern State in 1992 on Homecoming--at Fouts---in front of about 10k (the largest of the season)---as a really bad I-aa team---with Dennis Parker, a previous high school coach, leading us. During that game, we were driving to either tie or go for the winning TD. As we were moving, we ran out of timeouts as we reached the 10 or 15 yard line, maybe even closer...when the QB looks over and sees Parker telling him to down the ball...on third down...with about 20 seconds left in the game...forcing us to make the decision to kick a FG to tie or go for it on 4th down. We kick the FG to tie it...then try an onsides kick...from our 35 yard line. They recover it, throw one pass to get to about our 30, then kick the winning FG on the last play of the game. That was when it was officially known that Parker was completely in over his head as a college coach. So glad we didn't hire Paul Johnson or Dennis Franchione instead, both of whom wanted the job at the time Corky Nelson got fired after the 1990 season.

Again, its so North Texas to have one coach who knows all about the passing game, from scheme to recruiting the pieces to make it work, but knows nothing about building up a OL to protect that QB or help in short yardage and red zone situations. Then to hire another head coach who is literally the polar opposite of the previous one. Run the ball over and over, behind a line that gets developed over time, but can't find a QB that your below-average high school would use to pass the ball. There's a reason we have won 35 games and lost 89 since 2005...when you cannot get a coach here that knows how to coach a wide-open offense that can also move the ball effectively in short yardage (not handing the ball off seven yards behind the LOS on third and goal from the two). And that record is more than likely going to be 35-97 by the end of this season for the last ten years.

That was the day that Darrell Dickey fell off the UNT Mountain top--the reality that other regional mid majors were way past us and that our SBC dominance would soon end in the coming weeks hit us right between the eyes starting on that afternoon.

Even if we kill Portland State, that Thursday crowd will be sparse...in the other times we have played WKU at home, they bring about 50 people with them. Even if they brought 500 with them, it won't make up for the difference. That game may be announced at over 12k, but I doubt there will be anywhere close to that many in actual attendance...

Well, if you don't mind, tell Randolph and Mortimer (and anyone else) that we would like to start Trading Places with our current personnel...

So, IOW, we are gonna get our asses beat by a bought opponent on Homecoming...

I'm right there with you. I'm afraid, just as they have been with Damarcus Smith as the staring QB or with believing we were going to have a winning season this year, a lot of people are just set up for more kicks to the nuts as UNT fans. I have zero doubt that we go 1-11 or o-12 this year. Chico gets canned at some point and receives ALL the blame from Mac and RV. We will hear, just as we did with Bumford, that his job is being "evaluated" at the end of the year, but he will get to come back to turn this all around (i.e., it costs too much to us to buy him out). We begin grooming either Greer or Chumley as the next busdriver for 2016, under an OC that thinks McDickney Ball is just the best ever. Our recruiting finishes dead-ass last again and we go out and "improve" our record next season to 2 or 3 wins, with an average attendance of less than 15k for the season, which, of course "earns" Mac another year in RV's eyes (not because it means we only have one year left to buyout at that point, which is the UNT Gold Standard for when to make a coaching change). That's the UNT way--always has been, always will be, until proven otherwise. And the UNT 17 and BOR ain't getting rid of their boy at AD anytime soon. At this point, as beautiful as Apogee is, I am still just amazed that toilet-bowl Fouts could have more than capably handled the schedule and the crowds we are dealing with five years later...what a disgrace.

Major Applewhite and Lincoln Riley would be in for a huge culture shock if they came here, seeing the budget issues, the lack of fans, and a total lack of respect from the Texas HS coaches and recruits for this place. Besides that, both will be head coaches somewhere else higher on the foodchain than here, if for no other reason than we aren't making any changes anytime soon at HFC. When the time comes, its gonna take someone from the SBC, FCS, or Division 2 that knows Texas HS coaches, has experienced winning at places with even less support than we have both financially and fan-wise, and has the early-years persona that Mac showed us before he became Dickey 2.0 towards this place. When the 2017 season finally ends, I will bet that a few names we have never heard of or barely know about will become strong, viable candidates. And whichever one carries a binder full of impressive files with him into the interview with RV, that will probably be our coach for the 2018 season.

I think I just earned the starting nod this weekend...

don't care--got tailgating and games with SMU...and loves RV's jokes.

Wearing a bag over your head will surely get you kicked out of the game--not that its right in anyway to get kicked out, but this is UNT, so... I won't be there on Saturday, but black attire probably seems ok.

At this point, Denton Guyer is a good football team, huh, Coach?

Not a prayer of them reading this--at least with any seriousness. We are so stuck at this point, its not even funny--stuck with the head basketball coach that sucks for another season, stuck with a head football coach who is a Cro-magnon era coach for 2.5 more seasons, and stuck with an AD for as long as he wants to be here because the BOR and the UNT 17 love him. And stuck with the reality that the university would rather us just walk away, never to be heard from again, then to ever even try to fix any of this mess. Besides, tailgaiting!! And Apogee!!! And SMU!!

So, the Rice game was the low point individually, no doubt. If Bailiff had wanted to, we would have had 100+ hung on us that day. They didn't even TRY to move the ball in the entire 4th quarter of that game. The FIU was probably the low point for the Sun Belt Conference--two horrific teams, pillow-fighting thru ineptitude until somebody had to win. Luckily, it was us. This season will be the low point, collectively, though. If we win a game, like we did in 2008 against winless WKU, it will be this weekend. But even if we do win, your one win will be over an FCS school that nobody has heard of before. And I don't think we are going to win. Only way this isn't the worst season will be to win 2 games or more, which I think is impossible at this point. Losing to SMU damn near guaranteed there wasn't another FBS team we should be able to beat. The only three that even could get considered were USM, who we just got prison-raped by, UTSA, who has made us their bitch, and UTEP, who is simply better than we are right now.

Well, we will have a few years to compile a list of who can take Mac's place, so I'd venture to guess that there will be a coach in the FCS ranks or Division II that will be interested in coming here. Again, I'd go the head coach at a lower division over a coordinator at some P5 money rich program. I'd look at whoever is the head coach at the best Texas/Louisiana FCS or Division II team, who also is younger than 50, and likes the forward pass. Just my $.02... Of course, assuming RV is still the AD, I won't really be paying attention by then, so I guess it won't matter...

I think this is spot-on--we need to pay more to help alleviate the past issues that haunt us in recruiting and with the fans and media. But I just cannot see us doing that. There was gnashing of teeth when we hired McCarney at $650k, which was more than double the previous head coach and close to triple to what we paid Dickey most of his tenure here.

The greatness of Ben Gooding on full display again...just a regular Nostradamus of UNT football. At this point, getting to one is an issue...

And then Fly would come running in and say there was roughing the kicker and triple unsportsmanlike conduct. At this point, the kicking team can choose to run into the end zone instead of kicking an extra point if he chooses. And the other UNT16 celebrate wildly and begin throwing dollar bills down to the poors below....

Neither is womens hoops, but it can bring revenue in. I'd call it a revenue sport, just because it COULD bring in revenue if you are good at the sport. I'd imagine that TCU and Dallas Baptist probably do ok in terms of revenue from baseball...

Let's be thankful that baseball hasn't made its way to Denton yet as a tam sport...imagine how great we would be at another revenue sport that RV hired the head coach for?