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Turner Gill did nothing with Mangino's recruits. He was gone after two years. But I'd be ok with him as a solid candidate. Mangino built that thing up from rock bottom--and it was rock bottom--to winning a BCS game in the 2007 Orange Bowl over Va Tech, finishing #7 in the final AP poll. I don't think Mangino will get a fair chance to be a head coach again, just because of his harsh personality and his obese frame, which is cause for anyone to feel comfortable in offering him a long-term contract for health reasons alone.

I haven't heard anything new on him being fired in the last few days. Has the UNT17 made it clear that he stays or else they go? We know how flyonthewall feels, but I wonder if the other 16 are in full agreement with him on RV, as well...

If the players did collectively decide to quit before this game, forcing the hands of the university to make the change at head coach, doesn't it reinforce that this team's character--this is directly on the players now--is about as poor as you can get? I mean, Mac needed to go--no question about it, if you lose an entire locker room, basically, you can't coach another day. But that collective decision just cost the university $3 million dollars. To me, whoever gets this job next, has carte blanche to basically run off whoever he wants at this point. You can argue that every new coach gets that benefit, but sometimes, we see fans get upset when a new coach comes in and lets go of some of the guys that were on the team before. What I'm saying is that the new coach shouldn't hear one word from any of us when he lets go of the folks on this team that have proven they will quit when times get tough. Players get full scholarships and now COA--they are basically quitting on their employer and the alumni who support them. It won't bother one iota if the majority of this bunch got run off by the next coaching staff--and hopefully, a new AD to support them.

Man, I was so hoping to hear that Ben Gooding and you met face-to-face... This past Saturday really was the low point for gmg.com posters...

venables is a great recruiter for P5s, but that's a recipe for disaster to try and get a guy who has mainly seen how big to giant P5s run their programs.

I'm one of them--if RV stays, I'm gone...

Rivals had us ranked dead last in 2014. Last year was our best recruiting class under McCarney--and we finished 90th

I think we score more points this week than we have all year, but still get drilled. WKU--65 UNT--31

In other news, we need oxygen to breathe...

wow...smh

I don't want to be in the top quartile of paying a coach in CUSA--I want us to be top quartile in paying a coach in all of the G5...and not have it hurt the salaries of what we can offer the other coordinators and coaches. I thought the Dodge hire in 2007 was a great risk/reward hire, but I was completely onboard with it. It just failed miserably for every reason imaginable. In 2010, I wanted Franchione, but I was fine with McCarney. But recruiting to an offense built for 1970 in Iowa while in Texas in 2010 obviously failed miserably in the end. He improved the strength and attitude of the Dodge recruits that got beaten down by losing, but he never could get his own recruits to pan out--mostly because the sum of the classes was bad to oh-dear-Lord-you-can't-get-worse-than-this.

He would be a great candidate to go after.

Committee is fine...as long as RV gets fired and has no input on this.

Just gotta make sure that the AD doing the hiring this time is not the one we have had the previous 14+ years. Otherwise, it's a moot point for most of us.

I wasn't there to see the Portland State fiasco, but if they did quit, as it sounds like, that says a lot about the entire program. They either knew Mac was gone and just laid down or they just hated him so much that they wouldn't give any effort. From the coaching staff to the players, that kind of quitting is something that cannot be tolerated by the alumni. Showing up for this week's game, as a fan, doesn't seem like a good way to send a message to the university's leadership about the current state of things. Anything that gives RV even a chance at coming back is a disaster.

Sonny Cumbie would be a great pick if you can lure him here. Good name across the state, offensive minded, and very successful as an OC. i do worry about the no head coaching experience previously, though.

you deserve this place...

Flyonthewall just reiterated that RV is staying. if so, thanks UNT for everything.

If true, thanks for informing us all. At that time, I'll bid adieu to this place and thank them for my degree.

sure, Harry...I'll focus on the future. If RV is here in the future, to hire a coach, my time as a UNT athletics supporter is over. Major Applewhite isn't coming here. He will go to a job much higher on the FBS totem pole. I said nothing about UNT not being interested in him or not paying him. He's gonna be up for high level FBS jobs in G5 leagues, places that are far more prestigious than we are. Go look at the head coach at SHSU. That's a great place to start.

Major Applewhite ain't coming here, folks... This is a job that is made for the FCS coach or Division 2 coach that has had great success at those levels with a strong offensive scheme and are relatively young.

RV has to go. If he is still employed here when a new coach is hired, I'm out. I said I won't be here if Tony Benford coaches one day after this season ends, barring an NCAA or NIT berth (so pretty much at the end of the season). Well, not knowing we were going to fire Mac in the locker room after the game in front of the team, if RV is even involved in hiring the next football coach, I'm still done, no matter who gets hired. RV has been a disaster as an AD. Tonight was as much on his ridiculous scheduling as it was on Mac.

i said we had 2.5 years of this Mac BS, all because we wouldn't buy him out. Thankfully, I've been proven wrong. This is rock bottom...nowhere to go but up or sideways from here. There is just not enough talent here to be competitive at this level, obviously. Hopefully, the next coach will pull off a miracle and begin to make inroads in recruiting Texas high school players that have talent to be recruited by other FBS teams. If we can, we can start the rebuilding process quickly. If not, we stay where we have been for the better part of the last decade.

Some great responses here... I fear Portland State's team actually breathing...that pretty much means they will beat us. I fear hearing that they are a "good team" and that we need to practice better. In closing, I just fear the UNT BOR more than any other collection of people when it comes to football.