untjim1995

You're burying the lead here. A top college coach that can name his job when he wants to go back there, he represents the national view of this place. To us on gmg.com, we are the North Texas Mean Green. To the giant majority of the UNT students and alumni, we are simply just North Texas, where I got my degree and got the hell out of town, never to go back. And to those outside of the state and region, we are better known as the North Texas State Armadillos because of a movie filmed here in 1991. It gets old caring about something that so very few care about anywhere close to what we do on here, especially on campus or to those with degrees from here. When you let the program get so bad that this can happen, you really have to give yourself a moment to think about whether everyone else is just wrong or if we are the ones that have been conned over all these years (for me, 25 now).

That is same serious bait you've throw out there...

This is my line in the sand. The guy can't even be employed here for another hire in a revenue sport after this mess. Otherwise, the #UNTADforlife is basically going to be his epitaph.

You get what you deserve...since RV became our AD, the w/l record is a cumulative of 64-113, a winning percentage of .362. That covers Darrell Dickey, Todd Dodge, Chico 1.0, Dan McCarney, and now Chico 2.0. Nobody, but you, is claiming that we haven't seen any improvement in the overall athletic department from 15 years ago. Actually trying usually gives some modicum of improvement to a situation, which is what RV has done over his predecessor, Craig Helwig. And Apogee alone is a huge step forward, even if it got built on the becks of students who voted for it because of UNTFlyer's leadership and keeping RV as far from the election process as humanly possible. CUSA is a step up, as well, but again, that has everything to do with SMU jumping up to the AAC and leaving the conference with a void in DFW unless they took us. And there are other improvements, too. But an AD at every other single university in America that runs an FBS program gets hired/extended/fired off of their success or failure of the revenue sports teams. Why does it have to be different here every time when it comes to athletics? Just once--especially just this once--why can't we fire the Tina Slinker of ADs at UNT, a guy who basically watches over losing at sports that people care about at a level that is damn near unchartered. His latest firing of one of his hires will cost the university millions. I think I know who provides legal representation to the UNT 17 now.

Just stop...we get it, obviously, you only have interest in UNT football. Just leave it at that. Trolling this board may be funny to you, but it looks really stupid to the reader. And if you aren't trolling, by same small chance, there may not be a dumber post in terms of understanding UNT Basketball than you've conveyed--and that includes anything from Andrew.

Good Lord, this would be soooo North Texas to do, it's not even funny. Get a guy who hasn't coached in 7 years and has sat at home the whole time...that would be the perfect RV hire, right there.

Really glad that the guys on BaD Radio on the Ticket are playing the Chip Kelly audio right now...just hilarious to get laughed at locally, too.

Wilson and Damarcus Smith in your backfield, along with Harris and Goree on the outside give us hope for a new coach to have a few pieces to work with, assuming they all can stay healthy and eligible and not get suspended by stupid decisions.

Mack Brown would be an awesome AD, but I think his salary from his TV gig and the money that UT pays him are both more than enough to keep him from going back to the sidelines or working as an AD at anywhere but a higher named P5 program. Personally, I'd love to know if Jordan Case has any interest in the AD job. He'd be a perfect candidate to me--a guy that loves UNT, had success as a QB here, and is completely used to dealing with UNT's issues, as well as serving high-end buyers. I bet you he could be had if the call was made...

Maybe we should hire June Jones, then, since Hayden came here after SMU fired him... I kid, I kid...couldn't even post this with a straight face!!

No question about this...from the normal UNT diehard fanbase. Its the extra dollars you get from attendance from the visiting teams' fans, as well as casual UNT fans or college football fans that would help the bottom line for us that adds to the problems we have here. It'd be nice to show recruits and potential coaching candidates that we get decent support of at least 2/3rd of the stadium's capacity for a season. We can't even say that in our best years. That's why scheduling does matter here. And I don't even mean P5 schools, either, or higher profile G5 schools. Get a close SBC school, or an AAC school, or MWC school here. Texas State would bring people here to help cover the low expected turnout for the WKUs of the conference. Tulane would bring in more fans for an OOC game than Nicholls State, so when F_U comes here, you made a few more dollars for the AD. And a school like New Mexico or Colorado State would bring in more fans than Portland State, obviously, so when MUTS comes to town, you've made up for it by the extra fans that will be here for a better OOC opponent to compliment SMU or Army. But, really, its probably just too late. Having Liberty, ACU, Incarnate Word, and Lamar on your future OOC schedule isn't getting changed, so when we get Charlotte or ODU here in the future years, its going to look like last night's game did--unless we are winning, which doesn't look like it will be for a while until the next coach gets his players here to run his system, offensively speaking, which will probably take multiple years to get in place based off the current roster and the style of play that they were recruited to play. Hell, last night alone, Damarcus Smith threw several passes that our receivers couldn't even handle, since they weren't used to an actual FBS throwing QB making sharp, crisp throws , as well as playing in an offense that actually throws the ball downfield more than once during a set of downs. Its going to take a while to rebuild this roster, both from a scheme and talent standpoint, but even more so from a psychological standpoint, since the team has been beaten down by losing and quitting.

Thank God, WKU brought their usual huge allotment of fans to Denton...with the best team they have fielded since being back at FBS. I get that none of the Eastern SBCUSA teams bring anyone here nor move the needle with Metroplex fans, but its also why playing FCS teams in Denton as an OOC game is just so amazingly stupid for this program right now. When you know that one of your conference home games every year will come from Murderers Row of the F_Us, MUTS, WKU, ODU, Charlotte, or Marshall, it'd seem smart to play an OOC game at home that might actually--oh I don't know--help bring in some college football fans to the stadium because they have heard of the team coming to play here and actually help the budget in many ways. This is why a series against a team like Texas State, who would bring people here from their school and get more of our own fans there because they know friends and family that are students and alumni of TSU, just makes too much sense and will never occur, obviously. But the FCS scheduling is just too stupid for a school like ours right now. You either kill them, like we did Nicholls State last year, which doesn't bring in any extra fans to the stadium and doesn't help your team one iota as they move forward on their schedule, or you get last Saturday, albeit not as epically failed as we did in showing our ass to the world, where a loss just perpetuates the fact that we are a terrible program, yet brings in no new fans, but rather probably caused fans to just quit following the program, whether temporarily or permanently. So last night, when you get between 4k and 10k at a home game, depending on who you are reading on gmg.com, at a stadium that is beautiful and seats 30k, for Western Kentucky on a Thursday night, you could have at least helped the entire program by having had at least one OOC game at home earlier in the season that made up for this difference. Instead, you get FCS Portland State on Homecoming in front of a disappointing crowd by even our standards for that weekend and then follow it up five days later with a school that is really good, but nobody cares enough about in this area to drive up and watch them play us, nor are they close enough to bring any semblance of a decent following to the game. And you can't blame it on Thursday night entirely, because history shows they bring no one over 50 to a game here even if its on a Saturday afternoon or evening.

Well, the last time they saw us, we gave them $400k to come down here to open up the 2013 season and we treated them accordingly on the field...

That pretty much sums up RV perfectly...

The bit from Chip Kelly, in my opinion, is much worse. We got called North Texas State, basically, by a media member yesterday--about 27 years after State got dropped from our name. Then to be called the Armadillos by a former FBS coach, who was in the college football coaching landscape for deacdes before going to the NFL, just reflects perfectly how little we have moved the needle on a national basis. We are better known as being the Texas State Armadillos nationally than we are as the North Texas Mean Green. For a university with the enrollment and alumni that we have, much less the location that we are in, to have people connected to the sport of football bring this up as a punchline is just galling...but I don't blame them, I blame us. This is what happens when you decide to make your football team a cost-based program at your school, like you are some ISD that has to offer the sport, and place other priorities ahead of the athletic program as your primary window to the university. Being the Wal-Mart of universities from a "value" basis for all these years just perpetuates the fact that the students and alumni almost universally don't care about any of this. And for the few of us that do, it is the most embarrassing time I can ever remember to be a UNT Football fan. Even I-aa didn't embarrass this bad, since the media barely even covered us (compared to today, anyway).

I'm not really sure how you derived that I would rather have what SMU has now. I would be just fine right now with having what we had when Johnny Jones was here in his last five seasons versus what we have seen in the last three years, when wins (and attendance) have dropped mightily. There used to be a poster on this site, I believe he was called The Fake Lonnie Finch. Man, that guy was pretty sharp with his posts (usually). Yeah, he trolled a few times, but for the most part, he made some solid posts. I wish he hadn't died so soon...especially when I read most of what this poster throws out there these days.

Chico would be a nice head coach at a FCS school, a place where FBS QBs can find their way there for various circumstances. But saying you were the OC for this squad will not even get you an interview with most ADs across the country for any open vacancies--hell, most head coaches probably won't give him much of a chance to interview for any openings as OC or QB coach after these last few seasons. This entire staff will be gone very soon. And a lot of players will be gone, too... This thing has to be completely purged at the highest points on the UNT Football totem pole. McCarney and McNulty are gone. Soon, it will be the rest of the staff, as well. The AD should be gone, too, but that is somehow up in the air, amazingly. It won't surprise me if the starting QB next season might not even be Damarcus Smith or even anyone that is here right now as a QB.

You posted just above that football was our only problem..

Our basketball teams have sucked something fierce for the last three years...

I thought he showed lots of flashes of greatness, but he showed even more rust from being wasted on the sidelines. I can see clearly why his style of play irritated McCarney so much--very modern QB that makes plays with his feet and arm...or basically the complete opposite of the McNulty Busdriver he adored. I think we would have beaten SMU with Damarcus Smith in the lineup, but I'm not sure if the team would have beaten Portland State or not, with the defense we are throwing out there. Keep in mind, that this is easily the worst defense we have fielded since the heart of the Dodge years, yet it took SMU three quarters to get anything of major note going on us. That's why we knew that losing to that squad was going to be very ominous to the rest of the season, a season that right now could really, really use this crazy thing called a bye week. But the greatest AD of all time didn't give us one this season, so playing the best team in our conference 5 days after suffering the worst loss in modern FBS football history, while breaking in a new QB and a new coach, went about how we expected it to go. The upside is that just like in the Dodge years, most of the time that we suffer an ass-kicking, at least the offense should be more exciting to watch. UTSA will beat us, since we are their rag doll, so it will be up to UTEP to hopefully mail it in at the end of the year when they come here after Turkey Day to play us. UTSA just dominated UTEP in El Paso a couple of weeks ago, so I figure that should be our one hope for a victory. Just to emphasize how awful this entire program is at this point, the average score of one of our games is now 50-17. That includes an FCS school, a team that was the absolute worst FBS team last year in SMU, another team that was the worst team in FBS in 2012 and 2013 in USM, then Rice, Iowa, and WKU. Its not an exaggeration to say that this team would challenge the 2008 Dodge team that went 1-11 and beat 0-12 WKU as its only win, as the worst team we have fielded since we moved back up in 1995. I am fairly certain that our last I-aa team in 1994, with Mitch Maher as our QB, would probably have beaten most of our teams we have rolled out since then.

I don't see us getting one, unless UTEP had mailed it in the weekend after Thanksgiving, in front of about 2000 at Apogee. Our defense is small, slow, and the scheme is just awful as far as pass defense goes.

this is how I imagine RV greets you...

Andrew McNulty's best position on the field is on the sidelines...

they don't care if they are the only ones there, just as long as they get to have access to all things UNT sports related with their AD buddy. it didn't bother them at all with the decline in attendance at the Super Pit and it won't bother them at Apogee.

So embarrassing to be connected to UNT Football right now...