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His top receiver then was Desmond Briscoe, from Cedar Hill, IIRC...and we all know that Aqib Talib was their best overall player and he came from Richardson. He just isn't who we need right now, though. We need someone that will make recruits, HS coaches, fans and media take us seriously. This would be the last hire that would be taken seriously...and that's before his interactions with the public go south, which will happen with this guy. Its just a bad fit...a really, really bad fit, IMHO.

Another thing about Mangino, he finally got successful at KU when a certain wizard coach retired at Kansas State for about three years--a stretch of 2006 thru 2008. KU took advantage of KSU falling off the map, Nebraska dropping way down, and Colorado becoming a meh program. And you have to give Mangino and KU credit for that. But as soon as Snyder showed back up in Manhattan, KU's history of suckitude QUICKLY came back to them.

Mangino was the first football coach at KU that seemed to use the basketball program to his benefit with recruiting. He and Self got along great. Mangino never seemed to mind being second fiddle at Kansas. But that said, he would be a terrible fit here...just awful. We need a fresh-faced name, a guy who kids can relate to, a coach who can recruit kids to an exciting gameplan...sadly, kids know that Mark Mangino is known for one thing, predominantly, and that is being a super fatass. They've seen the pictures and heard the jokes about how our coach can eat you coach. North Texas has enough problems as it is--creating another PR joke won't help.

When he was at KU, the secretaries and athletic office employees got treated like dirt by him, apparently. It all came out when KU fell apart in 2009, when he lost the team. Reesing was the heart of that team, for sure. But he got hurt in 2009 and tried playing with the pain, but it got to be too much. Mangino's losing season finally caught up to him--it was kind of like it did with Leach and Leavitt, but worse...in that they team actually lost their last 6 or 7 games that year, when they started off ranked in the top 15, IIRC.

UNT Rivalries run like this: To those of us who graduate before 2012 that are on gmg.com--SMU Some of whom have graduated after 2012 and are on gmg.com: UTSA To the rest of the UNT alumni, students, faculty, administration, and local citizenry: apathy or actually having UNT Athletics exist

What NCAA violations are on his record?

This would be the most RV hire of all-time...hire a coach who had success at a Midwestern Big XII school, but got fired, eventually for stubbornness and boorishishness. And he coached at ISU, too!! My God, the UNT 17 have to be so effing proud right now...

Mangino is a very good coach...but his demeanor is very poor. He was known for boorish character at KU, which is what cost him his job in the end. You can be an a$$hole all day long when you win, but the moment you lose, that karma always comes around. His appearance/health will always keep him from getting another big time job--and I'd venture a guess that it would include here. He would not be a good hire for our situation--at all. He would not be a good fit for recruiting, for building up a fanbase, or for promotion (if we even try this). This would be a disaster, if true.

Dude, he ran the spread offense as the OC at OU when they won the championship in 2000, as well as his entirety as the head coach at KU. He is literally the polar opposite of McCarney's offensive mindset in every way.

Keep on trusting in RV...give him another 15 years. One of these days, he's bound to get one right--and break that pesky .500 hurdle for a football coach. And probably in the next 15 years, you'll be able to attend a Season Ticket Night at Apogee and the Super Pit and get to enjoy the new promotion--"Buy Season Tickets and you can pick out the entire row you want with each ticket that gets purchased!!" Lock in your chance to watch Liberty University play at Apogee or Northwood University at the Super Pit while you have the chance...or before you change your mind.

Yeah...I mean just look at his track record for hiring coaches. How could anyone think this could end in failure?///UNT17

This. In the end, the coach we get here will be hired under RV. The chances that it will work out to even .500 record is damn near zero, based on the last 15 years.

The people who get to influence and make the decision on the AD job have all made it very clear--they want to keep RV...they just don't care enough to make a change at AD, for whatever reason(s). It just sickens me...25 years down the drain.

And then tell him that RV has been here as the AD for 15 years... And that we aren't firing him, either...so he can get to hire another football coach and probably another basketball coach in the next 6 months. That will be the hat trick--fire three coaches in your revenue sports that the AD hired... within 12 months...and keep his job. Nowhere else in America.

I completely agree...and its why a lot of us just can't standby and watch the university continue to condone the performance under the AD who has his job because he is well-liked by people who either don't care about athletics (BOR) or don't want to lose their inside status with a new AD. You keep RV, you lose fans, probably forever...that is the choice. Keeping around fans of the program for decades versus #UNTADforlife...its that simple.

What needs to be considered is where we rank in the G5--I have us at 25th, assuming and Montgomery at Tulsa are higher than what we paid McCarney. We know Morris at SMU definitely is and I consider BYU as a P5 for this instance. That is 25th out of 62 G5 teams, since UAB is no longer at this level. Paying what we pay isn't the problem...its not being able to recruit that is killing us. All of these facilities, conference affiliation with regional peers, and a solid academic profile of the university still haven't moved the needle at all with recruits in Texas high schools. Maybe that was all McCarney, but somehow, I'm betting its still going to be an issue for whoever takes over here. I really believe that the next coach only has a chance to turn this thing back into a winner within two years if he can bring in a scheme that fits the QB here, as well as a strength and conditioning program that somehow builds up the lines to a G5 level within the next couple of years. Otherwise, just getting back to .500 anytime before the 2018 season would be amazing.

La Tech has a mostly winning tradition, though. We don't--its literally apples vs oranges here. La Tech has a womens team that has won a national championship and played for a few more in its history. They have wins over Alabama, Michigan State, and others, as well as close games against really great teams in its past to sell recruits in Louisiana and Texas on. That includes a loss by a FG to a top 5 Texas A&M team with Johnny Football in Shreveport. And, of course, last year, they beat Illinois in the HoD Bowl. One huge advantage that La Tech will always have is that they are the number two public school in a very talent-rich state. If a kid is a G5 talent in that state, if he wants to play at home in Louisiana, he can look at Tulane, La Tech, ULL, or ULM. Tulane's admission standards are higher, so that will always make it a little tougher for recruits, so that kind of makes La Tech your default choice after that. That's a nice position to be in a state that really produces a ton of high school talent. Kind of like Southern Miss being third in Mississippi, but also being a G5 program, as well as Arkansas State in Arkansas, your position in t e pecking order within your states should always generate a decent amount of talent to get. We play in a state with 11 other schools. Right now, for various reasons, we are last on the totem pole for recruiting. By the time the P5 schools recruit heavily here, which include UT, A&M, Baylor, Tech, TCU, Arkansas, OU, OSU, and LSU, among others, that leaves you with the G5 talent to fight for. Take UH, SMU, Rice, UTSA, UTEP and Texas State, then add in Tulane, Tulsa, La Tech, and a few others in the SBCUSA, and that is your group you are fighting. If you cannot beat even a quarter of that group for overall recruiting, which McCarney obviously couldn't do here, you cannot be surprised to be the worst team in America right now. Our recruiting class in 2014 was dead-ass last, according to rivals--that is coming after a bowl winning season that ended at 9-4. If you can't get kids here after that, it just wasn't ever going to happen. Recruiting is certainly not an exact science or a true indicator of how things will go for your team--but when you finish at the bottom of 125+ teams in recruiting rankings, expecting anything much different than what we are seeing is just being blinded with Mean Green glasses, Portland State 's prison-raping of us on Homecoming notwithstanding...losing to a FCS team should never be expected by any FBS team, no matter where you are ranked in recruiting, but that is beside the point...

Guys, Memphis was just looking at the great PR they will get by playing a game in a huge market that will attract tons of viewers and the attention of recruits...oh wait... My stance against watching FCS opponents saved me this year a ton of heartbreak by not seeing Portland State murder us on Homecoming. If we had lost like that against a Memphis or Houston, most people would have understood that they are teams that are just way farther ahead than we are, but it also might have kept McCarney as the head coach, so maybe RV is a genius for scheduling Liberty, Lamar, Incarnate Word, and Abilene Christian in the future...he can use those games as "fireable" events for the next head coach if we get clobbered again. After all, you gotta have standards...

I agree on this completely. Good OL coach, but that guy isn't FBS head coaching material... I still think these are the candidates that will get a serious look if they are interested in talking to us: Chris Thomsen--former winning ACU coach and current assistant at Arizona State Sonny Cumbie--Assistant OC at TCU, plus well-known from Tech QB days under Leach Houston Nutt--former head coach at Boise State, Arkansas, and Ole Miss, apparently lives in Dallas Derek Dooley--former La Tech and Tennessee head coach, now coaches WRs for the Cowboys

Really??

This is dead-on...we have great programs to recruit players here, as well as terrific facilities and a solid conference setup. The only thing that I think I would disagree on, though, has been, historically, our location hasn't helped us at all...I think it has been a detriment, actually. The SWC owned DFW for so long that even after they broke apart, the leftover schools in DFW still got attention at a much higher level than we got. Of course, TCU left us all in the dust, but SMU always got higher level recruits and media coverage from the local media. In so many ways, our connection to DFW and the ways that Denton has not supported our program have really hurt us in the eyes of many. Obviously, winning could change this view in the eyes of recruits and fans, but it will always be tougher just because we are viewed as third in the DFW market, much less within the state. Right now, if you are a high school recruit, the best attribute that UNT has going for it is playing time. If you want to play in the first couple of years you are on campus, you can do that here. And you will get to play games closer to home than SMU will play, even when we play on the road. You get 5-6 games in Denton, with trips to Houston, San Antonio, El Paso, Ruston, and Hattiesburg, as well. Your family can easily come see you play, especially if you are getting to actually play in your freshman and sophomore years.

Dooley is very interesting--local guy, coaching WRs for the Cowboys. Good run at La Tech, but couldn't hack it in the SEC, which is nothing to be ashamed of. Might even keep him from ever getting any interest from that level again. But maybe he is a good coach for the G5s, basically a George O' Leary or Skip Holtz type of coach...

I'd imagine that the band director would get heavier scrutiny here than the head coach of football gets... As for Saturday game days in Denton, on several occasions, I've had people who are buying tickets in front of me at the ticket gate ask for the best tickets to watch the halftime performance, that they are staying around until the band is finished with its halftime performance. As we like to say, only at North Texas...

After hearing RV talk about his success as the AD here, this Travis Tritt song comes to mind: Here's a Quarter, Call Someone Who Cares

Looks like I'm a day late, but I have to give checkfacts her due...Ben Bading wasn't that bad of a username choice...