untjim1995

Its like when we made the NO Bowls and went to the NCAA Tournament in New Orleans and Oklahoma City. We had fans there that probably had never once stepped into Fouts/Apogee or The Super Pit in their lives and probably couldn't even find them on a map of the campus. But they had somebody tell them about the bowl berths and the tourney invites and they were in for a fun trip.

June Jones to Hawaii makes total sense for both parties. Good move. UCF ain't hiring Dan McCarney--nobody is as a head coach. UNT hiring Chico would be such a give-up, its not even funny. Just because he has managed to beat UTSA, at home by a TD, when they have their 4th and 5th string QBs playing, doesn't exactly mean that he should stay. Chico has watched over two dead-cat bounces because of flawed and very-flawed head coaches that had him as their OC. That's not extension worthy anywhere else...which is exactly why its probably a top option here.

This. No way, we are going from a 1 or 2 win team to a 6-6 team next year with a new coach and a roster full of classes that have been among the worst that FBS has offered in the last 3 years. I think that next year is a year where getting 3-4 wins would be a great sign. Bethune-Cookman, @‌‌Army, @‌ UTEP, and @ UTSA are all games we could win next year. We want to tell ourselves that we can beat SMU, USM, La Tech, Rice, Marshall, WKU, and MUTS, but we won't be ready next year to do that with this roster, a squad that openly quit on the university.

I think that the top 4 will change out a lot, just as it did last year. This week, the loser of Bama and LSU and the loser of TCU/Okie State will be out of the mix. Michigan State @‌ Ohio State loser will be out, as will the loser of the B1G championship (MSU/OSU or Iowa). Clemson and FSU loser will be officially out, as will Stanford/Notre Dame and Baylor/OU. All I'm saying is that Ole Miss holds their destiny in their own hands. Win out against Arkansas, LSU, and at Miss. State and they win the SEC West and then probably the SEC Championship. Not likely, I realize, but its the scenario that scares the hell out of the P5s. If Memphis wins out, with wins over Navy, at ranked UH, and Temple twice in a home and home, while Ole Miss wins out, I think they will get into the Top 4, unless the AAC teams they beat lose some more games along the way and water down those victories.

UNT90 is dead-on about the scheduling. I made the decision years ago that if we scheduled a FCS game at Apogee, I wasn't going. Those games don't help our program one bit...Texas Southern didn't and Nicholls State sure as hell didn't. But, now, with the worst loss in modern college football history to FCS Portland State on our Homecoming as our only home OOC game, that bomb detonated and made us the laughingstock of college football. You can lose a FCS game by less than a TD--you can't lose to one by more than this, much less by damn near 60 points. The point is that we should have never played any of them--none. But, instead, the few remaining fans get to look forward to great OOC home games against Bethune-Cookman, Lamar, Incarnate Word, and Abilene Christian, to go along with SMU and Army, two of the absolute dregs of FBS college football. Scheduling is the absolute worst thing we have done here...we haven't given any non-diehard UNT fans an opponent to draw their interest to come and watch us play in a great facility. Basically, the best team we have hosted here to garner any decent interest was Houston, who opened the stadium. A team we hosted at Fouts--very easily, I might add--just like every other OOC game we have played in Denton since we built this great facility.

The backward path at UNT is going behind the scenes to be great pals with the UNT 17 and the BOR--it amazes me that a total of about 30 people can have that much control around here...

When the P5s eventually split away for good, that is when the coaching salaries for your G5s will drop down accordingly. I still bet that schism occurs in the next 10 years. What will really be interesting is if Memphis gets into the playoff. They are at 13 now, still play undefeated UH, who is #25, #21 Temple, and 6-1 Navy, and could play Temple again in the AAC Championship game. If Ole Miss runs the table and Memphis runs the table, I think they are going to be in there. The Big XII leaders are going to cannibalize each other, the Pac-12 looks down, and if Notre Dame loses again, which I think they will, that is going to potentially leave you with this scenario: Ohio State Ole Miss Clemson Memphis You could see several G5 schools really overpay coaches if they think they can duplicate Memphis's success in this scenario. The only problem is that Memphis and Ole Miss are old rivals that play each other every year in this crazy thing called a home-and-home series. It wouldn't surprise me a bit to see the SEC or the P5s pressure Ole Miss to drop that series immediately.

This... But, in reality. the current AD isn't going to get this right--he has more than proven that in the last 15 years. To argue otherwise is to either be one of the UNT 17 or BOR that holds this place hostage or just being a pure Mean Green Homer.

I think 3 years is probably a legitimate expectation. The new coach, assuming he is a wide-open offensive guy, will have to get time to teach a team full of players recruited to play a plodding offense, as well as to find recruits that can be developed into good fits for his offense. Much like at SMU, it is going to take a while...

ahh forget it, he's on a roll... Baylor, because of their political ties, won the lottery by getting into the Big Xii when they did. Nobody wanted them, but they had the right political ties, so they got in. Literally, they were the punching bag of the Big Xii in football until Briles showed up. One year, in the mid-2000s, Baylor won 1 game, while TCU and Boise State combined had only lost one game. They were both top ten, but not yet BCS busters, so they got matched up in the Ponsettia Bowl in San Diego in mid December. TCU beat Boise to give them their only loss, so both finished in the top ten, IIRC. But what really stood out that year was that the bowl money that TCU and Boise took in from that year was less than what Baylor got from the Big XII's other teams--combined. Baylor found their latest iteration of Grant Teaff and they are going to be great as long as Briles stays there. But it certainly wasn't always like this...and even at their worst, which was either getting drubbed by us at Fouts, 52-14, in 2003 or when they lost to UNLV on a fumble return of 100 yards on the last play of the game when they just needed to take a knee, their coffers have always kept them higher on the food chain than every single other G5 team around. Briles himself showed that when he left a good UH program to coach at Baylor when they were the dregs of the P5 schools.

The reality is that UNT, SMU, UTKFC, and UTEP all suck something fierce. It makes things a lot easier for Rice, UH, Tulsa, and La Tech when we all are awful...

We would have beaten SMU, but that's probably it at this point. Our defense isn't good enough to stop anyone with a pulse.

I'm convinced correcamino must translate in English as "hurt vagina"... CougarQueen thinks you suck at posting, that's how bad you are.

Chico got a win...that will look good for him when he gets his next job somewhere else. I'm glad for him.

He's such a perfect representation of this place...

To me, personally, funding the banner is a swan song to this place...my last dime to a department that has basically laughed off the main area of interest I have with the school. I think for most of us that funded this thing that it was our last gasp, Hail Mary try to make it clear that the person responsible for this epic failure should not get to hire anyone associated with our athletic department again. If the administration and BMDs see it differently, it's still a win for most of us. We got our last word out there and the AD and President have to see it and answer questions about it. And more importantly, we have made it clear that we are done with wasting time and money on something that will not be only be wasted epically, but done in an arrogant and derelict fashion. You can raise a millionaire, but his ass makes up one seat...and thousands of empty ones are why we cannot hire anyone decent or attract kids that are legitimate FBS talent as a whole. Who the eff wants to coach for an AD who is a proven loser, coach in front of two-thirds empty stands on many afternoons, and then bring recruits to see us get our asses kicked by teams they've never heard of, such as Western Kentucky and Portland State. you won't get a winner here again until you get rid of the AD...the last decade is testament to this.

Sadly, off the field, the low point hasn't been reached yet. Another RV hire will most likely get us to that point. I'd venture a guess that at Apogee, in CUSA, a season like we are having again, but with a coach who has multiple years left on his contract, we will reach a point where we lose in front of crowds in the 3k or lower range. And there's apparently nothing we can do about it. Such a waste...

The best thing that can happen here is the DFW media grabbing ahold of this banner and what it stands for. It's the only way Smatresk can truly feel any pressure to finally get rid of RV.

Nah, it won't shock them at all...all they care about is getting enrolled students and providing a "valued" education. The rest doesn't matter to them at all. The only reason they offer athletics here is because they think they are supposed to do it, just like an spare school district would. This place has never cared about alumni giving--that's why the endowment is ridiculously low. It is what it is...we all just didn't go to a school that cares about winning in athletics. The fast most of us come to this realization, the faster you can come to grips with the situation that we are given by the BOR and administration.

If we got Willie Fritz, it would be damn near miraculous. He's built a nice thing at Georgia Southern and will have several AAC and ACC suitors in due time. His next job opportunity as a head coach isn't gonna be a step up to CUSA--its going to be to a higher rung on the ladder. And he sure ain't coming to work for Rick F'ing Villareal...

At this point, it really doesn't matter how badly they beat us...our boat sunk a long time ago and no matter if it hangs on a cliff in the ocean or keeps falling to depth of the trench we are looking at, any loss by a point or by 59 points really doesn't matter. Recruits aren't paying attention to it--all they know is that we suck worse than every other FBS school in the country.

#UNTADforlife I enjoyed watching that TCU win last night over WVU. I grew up in FW and my dearly departed pal, Richard Durrett, loved his Frogs. Seeing his family yesterday reminded me of how much he must be enjoying this program still, since they still follow them very closely. Its just weird being an alum of a school who just doesn't give one rip about winning--to the point of making excuses and lies to keep an AD around because he has good friends on the BOR and with BMDs. My friends cannot believe that it has finally gotten to the point that I'm leaving the program behind. My UNT friends laugh that it only took me 20-25 years longer than it took them. My non-UNT friends know that it has been embarrassing forever, but they have always felt sorry for anyone who has tried to be a UNT fan. But I tell them that the last decade of absolute horseshit form football and basketball has finally brought me to this point, and they all say the same thing--"How in the $#^% does that AD keep his job?" And, finally, after 25 years, all I can say back to them is "Exactly"... I have resigned myself to the reality that the last game at Apogee with Western Kentucky will be my last, since we have games on Halloween and on Thanksgiving weekend. Its been a ride, but in the end, I--along with others--just have to step off the roller coaster. The director of the ride doesn't even care if it isn't a satisfactory experience, as he knows that his bosses don't care, either. Just keep getting riders...even if the car only has a miniscule amount of people compared to those who come into the park. He knows that the park operators aren't paying to change the ride or rebuild it--just gonna keep offering it up as an possible attraction to consider trying.

The bigger question is who will be interested in this job. We all want to put our Mean Green Glasses on and be homers, but the list of candidates won't really be known until the regular season ends, just to see who will be available. Assuming that salary isn't an issue and that we pay a coach in excess of $750k for upwards of 5 years, that won't eliminate anyone from potential candidates, per se. But the current roster, the current state of UNT's recruiting, and having an inept athletic director will hurt us in some fashion. How much? I don't know. Also, the fact that no other coach has gotten hired away from here since Jerry Moore did in 1981 to Texas Tech will scare away a few. The facilities for a G5 school, and our conference affiliation should help us. Plus, any coach that sees this as a true opportunity to move up will see that you cannot take over a program (that isn't on probation) in a worse situation. Winning 4+ games would be considered a huge miracle in either year 1 or year 2. So as far as expectations go, you're going to get here with very little expectations from the fanbase to get to a winning season in the next few years--you're gonna get time to get a QB here that runs an offense that fits your system and can grow into the role. If we can get an easier schedule next year in CUSA play combined with only one bodybag game, I think getting 2-3 wins will be possible next season. Reasonably, to go from this offense we have now to a more modern offense will take years of recruiting to rebuild. This isn't even accounting for the fact that the most disappointing facet of the McCarney era was that his specialty of developing the lines fell flat in the last two years, to the point that we have very little size and talent in those areas. And then add in the fact that you have a locker room full of kids that have shown that quitting on the coach and school isn't out of the question, it just equals a very rough situation to come into. IMHO, we are going to have to face the reality that the next coach will not get us to a bowl again for 3+ years, that in Year 4, we might finally get a bowl season after three bad ones. That's entirely plausible at this point, as you dig out of the canyon we are in right now because of recruiting deficiencies and a roster built for a running game, not a passing one. It'll obviously depend on the QB and how fast the coach can get players to fit his offensive scheme, but Damarcus Smith is the only QB on the roster who MIGHT be a fit for a new offense. The others are really FCS caliber, at best. Its a very real possibility that we may not win more than 3 games between now and the end of next season--and even that number might be overly optimistic, depending on how the schedule plays out and who will add/subtract from the roster.

Its almost as if Gosselin got that entire premise of the article from gmg.com. But he is dead-on about all of this points here. Running an archaic offense was a killer for Mac, even with experienced FBS coaches. Running a program with very little experience as college coaches was the killer for Dodge. Paying coaches next to nothing with poor facilities and having a coach who was PR deaf in Darrell Dickey was his killer. All three hit on the failings of the man who hired or extended them, who happens to be the same man who fired all of them when the losses mounted up to a mountain-like level. Combine Mac's initial enthusiasm, Dodge's offensive recruiting and QB development, and Dickey's ability to get a hard-nosed defense with the new facilities and conference affiliation and you could have someone special here. But that's hard to find, obviously...and the guy doing the choosing has completely shown that he cannot do it, which is perfect, since this is North Texas and he will get to make yet another hire to add to his record. Just awesome...

Folks, it doesn't get lower than this...we are being asked by a FCS team's fan, civilly, not in a Cougar Queen snotty fashion, if we would ever consider playing his FCS team from the Pacific Northwest, that beat us in the greatest loss in the modern history of college football, if we hope to never see them again because of the absolute beating they gave to us on our field on Homecoming... And the saddest of sad answers is simply, yes--we don't want to ever see you again...because our AD will probably hire someone who can't beat you or stronger FCS teams like you.