untjim1995

It would horrible to us if we lost both schools. It would give two more teams an implied leg up on us in recruiting by being in a better conference, not to mention that the Eastern CUSA schools may not want to replace them with another school in Texas. Adding Arkansas State and ULL would be acceptable, but nobody in DFW cares about them, at least compared to Rice and UTEP. It would be a very bad day if this occurs.

By ourselves, there's no doubt you are correct. But if it was with three other Texas teams, it would be completely wrong, in my opinion.

Its 2015 and we have been referred to as the North Texas State Fighting Armadillos this season by a former college coach in the NFL now, and then this. But I bet the composer of the NYC Orchestra knows that we are the University of North Texas, so we got that going for us...

Yeah, above that, after I edited my response above before I noticed this reply, I mentioned Marshall being a program the East would want...see above. I am not sure if that was a 'righteous' response, though... The AAC would be smart to look their way--no question.

MUTS gets you Nashville , a market you don't have any presence in, and they have solid football and basketball. No Florida school will do because of the current schools in USF and UCF. Neither F_U has any attraction above CUSA level.

The big thing is that the MWC and AAC could easily follow the current 14-team model for football and add two more teams to their mix. MAC teams and CUSA teams would be the places to get pulled from to get them each to 14. For the MWC, it would be UTEP and Rice. For the AAC, it would probably be MUTS in the east, along with NIU from the MAC. If each league wanted to bump up to 16, its very possible that the MWC goes after UTEP, Rice, UTSA, and La Tech, while the AAC could go after NIU, MUTS, Marshall, and Ohio. If that occurred, we might as well fold up shop...

I am sure that Fritz wanted back closer to Texas, which this accomplishes, while also getting into a higher profile league and deep-monied alumni. Good move by Tulane, good move by Fritz.

There is no reason for the MWC not to expand to Texas--they have way more to gain than to lose by coming this way. UTEP is a no-brainer for this, especially if the get Rice with them. When you compare the leagues, CUSA has one advantage for us--its cheaper to travel because of the Texas schools and La Tech. The G5 conference hierarchy is the AAC and MWC, then CUSA and MAC, and then the SBC. Rice gives the Houston, UTEP gives them El Paso, and the UTSA gives them San Antonio, and us DFW. If the 4 of us were in a division with UNM, Colorado State, AFA, and Utah State, that is a collection of 7 conference games that blows away what we have now in the revenue sports. Play two extra games a year against the MWC Western Schools, home-and-away, which is Boise State, Fresno State, Hawaii, San Jose State, San Diego State, Wyoming, Nevada, and UNLV and you have crushed it out of the park compared to games against CUSA East playing ODU, Charlotte, FAU, FIU, WKU, MUTS, and UAB. Not even close. Probably one game a year in the PST.

I think he will end up at OU. He has a close buddy there from HS that plays WR, they will have Baker Mayfield next year as a senior, while he sits out, and then he will have two years to start.

Davis Webb is the type of transfer I could see coming here. Closer to home (he's from Prosper), fresh start, and a system that he probably knows very well. Knight will go to a P5 or a higher-end G5 that is closer to winning than we are right now. I imagine that Knight's spot at OU will get filled by Kyle Allen from A&M.

Poor attendance at functions and games, lack of media attention, and a poor reputation with Texas HS Football Coaches because of our acceptance of losing for so long.

I thought this video was great. I really want him to succeed here--their family seems like a Norman Rockwell creation. Very nice representation for our school. But every time I watch that video and see RV, it brings me right back to the fact that Seth Littrell is stuck with a horrible AD. If he can overcome that reality, then the sky is the limit for his coaching career. I want to believe Littrell is the right guy for the job--and he has certainly gotten off to the right start here, PR wise--but he has never dealt with limited resources and support as he currently has here now. He does seem like a pure coach, focused solely on the x's and o's and recruiting, so maybe he will just keep his nose to the ground and not let the stuff that drove McCarney insane eventually get to him to.

McNulty or Poltergeist Clown?? Both are scary as hell, even though you knew both were lying in wait to strangle you (emotionally, in McNulty's case).

This is what needs to be done for the Bethune-Cookman game, just as it should have been done for the last home game against UTEP. The empty 27,000 seats at Apogee for that last game didn't buy one coke, program, or t-shirt. But it really doesn't matter--RV will never consider something like this or it would have already happened at various points along the way of the last decade of suckitude. Doesn't this sum up about 90% of all posts on here from every poster?

Do even half of the BOR members know what ESPN even is, much less why we would be mentioned by them? I seriously have my doubts. These people loathe sports.

You better get prepared for "I don't know"...

Old SWC schools playing in Denton have always drawn a good crowd. The SMU opener won't be any different. It will get between 20k and 24k, depending on start time.

And to prove my point on having the media...check out this listing on espn.com right now. Notice anyone missing? http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14312923/college-football-easiest-toughest-recruiting-jobs-1-65

That's a UNT 17 question...

First off, I agree on the failed part. No question it has failed, at least in the examples I gave. But the point is that we have had people to compare our head coach with in the tenure we made our original hire. In my opinion, Mac clearly lost that battle to Coker, probably equaled Franchione. Our best win was over Ball State in 2013. Each of the others beat UH, who is much higher up the totem pole than Ball State is. UTSA beat us both times Dan McCarney was on the sidelines when we played them. Littrell will be compared to Morris at SMU, Montgomery at Tulsa, Jinks at Bowling Green, and Norvell at Memphis over the course of the next 5 years, as well as anyone else hired by a G5 team in this region in the next year or so. I think its good to have those kind of coaches to compare with during that timeframe.

I'd have a list of Texas HS kids who have committed to these schools: ULL, ULM, Arkansas State, UTSA, Texas State, and UTEP in this state and I'd go meet with as many of them as I could f2f that is possible. I'd have an itinerary set to visit those schools in a Texas loop, starting in DFW, head over to East Texas, down to Houston, over to Central Texas, and West Texas. If I can't get in front of the recruit, I get in front of his high school coaches and move on to the next stop.

Every conference in the country that has divisions plays the same teams in back-to-back seasons in cross-divisional play. CUSA just hadn't done it yet because of dreaded Tulsa leaving, along with Tulane and ECU, as well as UAB taking its hiatus.

I agree--that's what I was advocating, that a G5 be included. But to be honest, I really don't care if the Power Leagues break away and make their own playoff system, either. Their media wants that anyway, as do their fans and their coaches. Those people completely dominate the rest of us in numbers and dollars. None of us should be surprised when that schism occurs, whether its under the NCAA or not. They have the legislatures and media to get it cleared, too.

Of course the coaches want that--it means their kids are probably getting some or all of their college paid for and it helps with their own resume. The biggest problem that UNT has with recruiting is that Texas HS players and coaches only look at us as a fallback school. They look at the old SWC schools as the top-tier places to get kids to go, for athletics or academics. Then you get the public G5s--Texas State, UTSA, UTEP, and UNT. Right now, the programs at the other three are bad, too, which helps, but they all have very good talking points to make in attacking us while recruiting the same kids. UTEP has scoreboard on us for the last two season, gets solid OOC teams on the schedule to play in El Paso, and show off their school at the Haskins Center in El Paso during recruiting in the new year in front of large crowds. UTSA doesn't have scoreboard this year--and that is huge for us--but they do get very good programs to San Antonio for games at the Alamodome. San Antonio, for some people, has a cool vibe, too, because of the tourism angle (not me, but others view it this way). Texas State has the biggest hurdle to overcome in SBC membership and a poor set of teams to play regularly. We shouldn't lose any battles to them or UTSA, in my opinion. I'd go after their commitments or those that they offered and hammer them with Littrell's OU playing career, Tech coaching career under Leach, and his UNC play calling this past season. I'd also go after any Texas kid that has committed to a team in the SBC in Louisiana or Arkansas.